| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? 08:52 - Aug 29 with 3649 views | Keno |
the last couple of season have been simply amazing and we have been so lucky to be the fans to benefit from it, which most other team looking on enviously.
I will admit to have fallen back in love with the players and the team again. Nights like Barnsley away, Southampton at home and so many more games where dreams became true.
No offence to them but I'm not sure I'll feel the same about the new players as I did about JD, Kayden and so many of the last 2 seasons squads but they are the next Ipswich and who knows where they will take us
Over the past couple of weeks, in my case not helped by the decision over the youth academy, it feels a bit like "reality' is kicking and as fans we will have to accept its 'back to 'something akin to normality' and be patient
This is season is all about survival and just remember we didnt 'survive' in the championship very long so who knows where this 'dream' will take us
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:56 - Aug 29 with 3368 views | J2BLUE |
Just beginning.
Let's not let two games against top 3 teams and a cup match end the fairytale.
Two weeks on the training pitch with McKenna will work wonders. We've built an excellent squad. We can compete to stay up. |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:57 - Aug 29 with 3348 views | _clive_baker_ |
I've always said it, its about the journey rather than the destination. Those 2 seasons were incredible and we might never see anything of the like again. Expectations have been rebased, so subsequent promotions from the Championship won't 'hit' like last season, and hopefully we don't find ourselves in L1 to know what back to back promotions feel like. There literally hasn't been a better club to be a supporter of in the country over the last few years really, and I include Man City in that.
We'll give a good account of ourselves this season though I think. We've strengthened well and we've got a top manager, hopefully our first points on the board on Saturday and I think we'll see improvement as the weeks go on and the new signings become familiar with the patters. |  | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:57 - Aug 29 with 3339 views | Keno |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:56 - Aug 29 by J2BLUE |
Just beginning.
Let's not let two games against top 3 teams and a cup match end the fairytale.
Two weeks on the training pitch with McKenna will work wonders. We've built an excellent squad. We can compete to stay up. |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:58 - Aug 29 with 3328 views | dirtyboy |
Not giving up on them.
We wanted to be in this league.
We know it's the hardest in the world and we've probably had 'too much too soon'.
Let's be like Luton, grateful, turn up and support with no expectation and enjoy the football. |  | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:00 - Aug 29 with 3289 views | FrimleyBlue |
Think it's better to view it as the prequal is over, but the sequel hasn't even started yet.
Yes there's a lot of love for certain players, but lets no forget, they all joined as new players at one point, the team itself didn't look like a KM team until a few games into his management and it took at least half a season before you could say towns project under KM was on it's way.
There is also a chance, this still might not be enough to stay up, if it's not, it's not, but it;s given the club a list of players with high value trading potential, which is key for the continued ambition of the club. There's a chance KM could go at some point, maybe this season, maybe the end of it, but we know the next manager has a squad with talent in it.
The thing is, people have craved prem football, that's the end game at the end of the day, now we are here, there seems to be a lot of sentimental thoughts going around, unfortunately sentiment gets you nowhere in the prem with how big the gap is nowadays.
So Prequal over, but lets look forward to the sequel. |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:03 - Aug 29 with 3264 views | WeWereZombies |
Fairy tale over, Gothic melodrama just beginning (yay say the bed wetters.) Expect Sturm und drang, tragedy, the team rising from the ashes, triumph snatched from the jaws of defeat, defeat snatched from the jaws of victory...and over excited hyperbolic (as well as hyper bollox) commentators. |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:08 - Aug 29 with 3192 views | baxterbasics |
Here's the thing - last season was the best I have known in my 22 years following Town.
It's great to be playing with the big boys now. But even if this one proves 'successful' in terms of surviving, we aren't going to experience the highs of last year are we? The last two years have been once-in-a-generation, possibly.
I think we just need to come to terms with that and be glad we were around to witness it. Keep reminding ourselves of how bad things can be, and have been! |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:20 - Aug 29 with 3072 views | Europablue |
People on the outside might see it as a fairytale, but having observed it closely, I'd refer to it as a struggle.
The standards were so high in League One that we couldn't afford to even draw matches. We were always a scalp and teams raised their games against us and tried to frustrate us.
The opening day win against Sunderland away really sticks out in my mind as being incredibly tough, then almost every match went in our favour often by very fine margins. The benefit we had was that we had a fairly settled squad of Championship standard players even in League One, whereas most teams in the Championship are scrambling to get their squad sorted out as their best players are usually poached by Premier League teams. Then they have to integrate new players into the team.
Just look at the first two matches. We really had no hope going against world class players who are familiar with each other. We just have to maintain our focus on one game at a time and trust that there are plenty of points to pick up and for us our return will probably be skewed to the end of the season.
We have got through the first couple of matches without embarrassing ourselves or destroying our goal difference.
There will only be improvement from here on out if everybody sticks together. |  | | |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:23 - Aug 29 with 3054 views | Churchman |
Don’t forget with the exception of Woolfenden, all the players were new players at some point. Even Harry C before his return.
I try to think of it as the end of the beginning (sorry to nab your line Winston). We have had an astonishing two seasons where the club has outgrown itself in so many things. League position, ticket demand, stadium requirements, projects, investment, Board changes. In fact change is the only constant.
Will it all end in tears? I don’t think so. Where it’ll end and what it’ll look like who knows. Not me. If it goes badly this season it’ll be all about how we reset next and what the club’s plans are. They’re not communicating much at the moment - I hope that changes when this chaotic window shuts. But it’s clear from the money spent that the club is striving to stay in this division. If it fails to do so, it won’t be for the want of trying.
It is unsettling, exciting, scary and interesting. A far cry from the Evans days and wondering if Douglas has the ability to actually move (sorry Jonathan). I never thought I’d see the club recover.
So yes, the fairytale is over. But a new story is beginning. It’s now a cliche but we really do have to try and enjoy the ride. |  | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:28 - Aug 29 with 3006 views | thebooks |
Yeah, it’s all a bit bittersweet. What made the last two seasons so great was battling to get here, and now we’ve made it… well, the PL just isn’t that fun. It’s not really anything to do with how well we do or don’t do – it’s just bland.
It’s mildly depressing seeing us spend £100m just so we can assemble a squad that competes. I know we have to, and the speed of our rise contributes to that, but still… It’s a bit obscene, isn’t it?
I’d actually really like the big 6/8 clubs to pìss off and form some sort of superleague with Real Madrid and for everyone else to get on with a normal, proper league, like the Championship. |  | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:41 - Aug 29 with 2892 views | Churchman |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:28 - Aug 29 by thebooks |
Yeah, it’s all a bit bittersweet. What made the last two seasons so great was battling to get here, and now we’ve made it… well, the PL just isn’t that fun. It’s not really anything to do with how well we do or don’t do – it’s just bland.
It’s mildly depressing seeing us spend £100m just so we can assemble a squad that competes. I know we have to, and the speed of our rise contributes to that, but still… It’s a bit obscene, isn’t it?
I’d actually really like the big 6/8 clubs to pìss off and form some sort of superleague with Real Madrid and for everyone else to get on with a normal, proper league, like the Championship. |
Agree totally. The PL is obscene and is designed to be uncompetitive. A money factory for the few. I’m not a fan and for some years have avoided watching much of it. The sooner the Man Cs and the cabal p£ss off to their dreamland of a super league the better.
In the meantime, we can only strive to be the best we can be. That’s what the last couple of seasons was all about. If the club and its infrastructure continues to grow, it’ll to a degree future proof it and be there for future generations.
Under Evans there was a real possibility of the club decaying to the point of no return; to the point of complete insignificance. | | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:46 - Aug 29 with 2830 views | AVJones |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:28 - Aug 29 by thebooks |
Yeah, it’s all a bit bittersweet. What made the last two seasons so great was battling to get here, and now we’ve made it… well, the PL just isn’t that fun. It’s not really anything to do with how well we do or don’t do – it’s just bland.
It’s mildly depressing seeing us spend £100m just so we can assemble a squad that competes. I know we have to, and the speed of our rise contributes to that, but still… It’s a bit obscene, isn’t it?
I’d actually really like the big 6/8 clubs to pìss off and form some sort of superleague with Real Madrid and for everyone else to get on with a normal, proper league, like the Championship. |
Thank you, you’ve described what I’ve been feeling very well.
Sport is at its best when it’s uncertain. The last two years were full of uncertainty. Things went our way, just. It could have been different!
This season feels pre-ordained. Relegation battle despite spending an obscene - and it is obscene - amount of money.
I hope it’s fun. I’m not convinced as yet. [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 9:48]
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:47 - Aug 29 with 2810 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:00 - Aug 29 by FrimleyBlue |
Think it's better to view it as the prequal is over, but the sequel hasn't even started yet.
Yes there's a lot of love for certain players, but lets no forget, they all joined as new players at one point, the team itself didn't look like a KM team until a few games into his management and it took at least half a season before you could say towns project under KM was on it's way.
There is also a chance, this still might not be enough to stay up, if it's not, it's not, but it;s given the club a list of players with high value trading potential, which is key for the continued ambition of the club. There's a chance KM could go at some point, maybe this season, maybe the end of it, but we know the next manager has a squad with talent in it.
The thing is, people have craved prem football, that's the end game at the end of the day, now we are here, there seems to be a lot of sentimental thoughts going around, unfortunately sentiment gets you nowhere in the prem with how big the gap is nowadays.
So Prequal over, but lets look forward to the sequel. |
Genuine question, what have you done with Frimpleton and is he OK? | | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:50 - Aug 29 with 2761 views | portmanking |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:46 - Aug 29 by AVJones |
Thank you, you’ve described what I’ve been feeling very well.
Sport is at its best when it’s uncertain. The last two years were full of uncertainty. Things went our way, just. It could have been different!
This season feels pre-ordained. Relegation battle despite spending an obscene - and it is obscene - amount of money.
I hope it’s fun. I’m not convinced as yet. [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 9:48]
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It will be a grind for a couple of years if we want to get to our end destination - a Brighton-esque team with the ability to push for top-half, European finishes and bloody the noses of the "big boys".
Brighton had 2-3 years of grinding it out before things evolved to where they are today. We need to stick with it this season and not throw the towel in just because things feel tougher. If we want our club to return to its former glories, we need to bite down on that gumshield and see 17th place as valuable as finishing 2nd last season. | | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:02 - Aug 29 with 2634 views | BloomBlue |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:56 - Aug 29 by J2BLUE |
Just beginning.
Let's not let two games against top 3 teams and a cup match end the fairytale.
Two weeks on the training pitch with McKenna will work wonders. We've built an excellent squad. We can compete to stay up. |
My only concern is how many will be away on international duty over the next 2 weeks?
That was why the defeat last night was disappointing, we could have use the next round to continue building that understanding in an actual game. |  | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:19 - Aug 29 with 2482 views | Guthrum |
Fairy tales always contain a time of adversity, when all looks lost, before the heroes win in the end.
Standard Joseph Campbell, innit. |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:21 - Aug 29 with 2468 views | usm |
Come on Kenneth, put your posipants on
Its the beginning |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:33 - Aug 29 with 2386 views | kizaitfc |
Fans need to remember we are well ahead on our expected progress timeline. Even if the worse was to happen and we get relegated we are still in a far better position then we were 2 years ago
A quality youthful squad and money in the bank from parachute payments. Not to mention are vastly improved stadium | |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:40 - Aug 29 with 2327 views | hoppy |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 08:57 - Aug 29 by Keno |
as always J2, you are very wise!! |
You spelled 'sometimes' wrongly. |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:41 - Aug 29 with 2314 views | Keno |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:40 - Aug 29 by hoppy |
You spelled 'sometimes' wrongly. |
oddly that wasnt the word I expected to be corrected | |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 10:43 - Aug 29 with 2281 views | Whos_blue |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:47 - Aug 29 by _clive_baker_ |
Genuine question, what have you done with Frimpleton and is he OK? |
I'm thinking Pulp Fiction.
"Bring out the frimp"
"The frimp's sleeping".
"Go wake him" |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 11:30 - Aug 29 with 2059 views | cressi |
This season we will see if McKenna is as good as people believe has been backed by the Americans here is hoping. | | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 12:24 - Aug 29 with 1880 views | Ryorry |
Of course it's not over.
We could still mathematically finish top  |  |
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| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 12:52 - Aug 29 with 1750 views | Denny32 |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 11:30 - Aug 29 by cressi |
This season we will see if McKenna is as good as people believe has been backed by the Americans here is hoping. |
We have been spoilt for past two seasons With expansive free flowing exciting football but that is partly due to open spaces and not great defences.it lures you in to a false sense of expectation. Sadly mckennas style and coaching will only get us so far as we face some of the best organised clubs in Europe be it in defence or attack .maybe kieran has brought in the right players. Maybe not .he brings in the type that are mildly mannered and attentive and that's why he has brought them in.but are there betrr players out there that would have been a better addition..players with a touch of arrogance .a bit of ego ..unafraid of what they face and a bit of gung ho .could mckennas personal preference for players to listen to him.and carry out every thing to atee be his downfall and the club .sometimes you have to be flexible..jst my opinion | | | |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 13:36 - Aug 29 with 1564 views | Vic |
| Is the "Fairytale' over or just starting? on 09:23 - Aug 29 by Churchman |
Don’t forget with the exception of Woolfenden, all the players were new players at some point. Even Harry C before his return.
I try to think of it as the end of the beginning (sorry to nab your line Winston). We have had an astonishing two seasons where the club has outgrown itself in so many things. League position, ticket demand, stadium requirements, projects, investment, Board changes. In fact change is the only constant.
Will it all end in tears? I don’t think so. Where it’ll end and what it’ll look like who knows. Not me. If it goes badly this season it’ll be all about how we reset next and what the club’s plans are. They’re not communicating much at the moment - I hope that changes when this chaotic window shuts. But it’s clear from the money spent that the club is striving to stay in this division. If it fails to do so, it won’t be for the want of trying.
It is unsettling, exciting, scary and interesting. A far cry from the Evans days and wondering if Douglas has the ability to actually move (sorry Jonathan). I never thought I’d see the club recover.
So yes, the fairytale is over. But a new story is beginning. It’s now a cliche but we really do have to try and enjoy the ride. |
It's really quite staggering really. These players we are now grieving for as they get replaced in the team and maybe even move out of the club as mostly the same ones that three years ago were coming in as part of Cooke's summer of madness, replacing players many of us had a deep affection for and were angry at cook for the way he treated them! |  |
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