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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres 21:54 - Jan 5 with 3609 viewsStokieBlue

Along with your jab you'll get a free beer but what should it be called?



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brewdog-coronavirus-covid-vacci

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 21:55 - Jan 5 with 3251 viewsBlueBadger

I can't help but think there's some kind of clever word play that manages to make it into a subtle dig at Brexit Tim as well.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 21:55 - Jan 5 by BlueBadger

I can't help but think there's some kind of clever word play that manages to make it into a subtle dig at Brexit Tim as well.


Isn't that the Little Prick one?

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 22:02 - Jan 5 by SpruceMoose

Isn't that the Little Prick one?


Good point, well made.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 22:06 - Jan 5 with 3204 viewsBloomBlue

'Drink before death'?
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 22:45 - Jan 5 with 3156 viewsEastTownBlue

They should really bring back their lockdown special

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 22:50 - Jan 5 with 3134 viewsFtnfwest

‘Lock in’ I would have thought!
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:03 - Jan 5 with 3122 viewshatch

Whilst it’s clearly a good thing to be doing I feel a bit uneasy with all this.

I saw his initial post on LinkedIn that everyone was boosting and it was appealing to the government to use their venues. I just thought, why are you posting it on here rather than contacting them directly? I appreciate public awareness may raise their chances of being heard by govt but it’s also just a massive PR boost.

My cynical side just sees it as them exploiting a pandemic recovery to boost PR.

I’m sure if I was their CEO I’d be supportive of the idea but it’s just irked me that they feel the need to be so public about it.
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:03 - Jan 5 by hatch

Whilst it’s clearly a good thing to be doing I feel a bit uneasy with all this.

I saw his initial post on LinkedIn that everyone was boosting and it was appealing to the government to use their venues. I just thought, why are you posting it on here rather than contacting them directly? I appreciate public awareness may raise their chances of being heard by govt but it’s also just a massive PR boost.

My cynical side just sees it as them exploiting a pandemic recovery to boost PR.

I’m sure if I was their CEO I’d be supportive of the idea but it’s just irked me that they feel the need to be so public about it.


There is an element of PR I am absolutely sure but I don't really see an issue with being public about it. I think most CEO's are likely to do the same, especially at a time when the government (English anyway) dallies about all over the place - it's good to have it in the open.

I doubt it's going to make hordes of people who wouldn't drink at Brewdog suddenly go there and it's quite nice to have some fun with the beer name.

I guess if you want to be really cynical about it you could say that it's in their interests to get people vaccinated quickly so the restrictions are lifted sooner.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:13 - Jan 5 with 3095 viewsBlueBadger

Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:08 - Jan 5 by StokieBlue

There is an element of PR I am absolutely sure but I don't really see an issue with being public about it. I think most CEO's are likely to do the same, especially at a time when the government (English anyway) dallies about all over the place - it's good to have it in the open.

I doubt it's going to make hordes of people who wouldn't drink at Brewdog suddenly go there and it's quite nice to have some fun with the beer name.

I guess if you want to be really cynical about it you could say that it's in their interests to get people vaccinated quickly so the restrictions are lifted sooner.

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This falls into the category of 'enlightened self-interest'.

I've spent a lot of time I don't really have over the last fortnight teaching staff on our newly 'flipped' covid wards what to look for and best management even though there's a LOT of fires to be putting out right now. Why? It'll pay off in a couple of weeks time, when they're a bit more savvy and confident dealing with covid and knowing what to look for when thinking about escalating concerns and ultimately result in fewer little 'fires' to put out.
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:14 - Jan 5 with 3086 viewsjeera

"Opportunistic"?

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:08 - Jan 5 by StokieBlue

There is an element of PR I am absolutely sure but I don't really see an issue with being public about it. I think most CEO's are likely to do the same, especially at a time when the government (English anyway) dallies about all over the place - it's good to have it in the open.

I doubt it's going to make hordes of people who wouldn't drink at Brewdog suddenly go there and it's quite nice to have some fun with the beer name.

I guess if you want to be really cynical about it you could say that it's in their interests to get people vaccinated quickly so the restrictions are lifted sooner.

SB


I do see that. I have also hunted a little more online to discover plenty of other retailers and pubs offering the same to the govt without advertising it so much. Just not such thing as a selfless good deed is there?

As you say it’s light enjoyment in dark times so I’m not going to get too on my high horse but still....
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:13 - Jan 5 by BlueBadger

This falls into the category of 'enlightened self-interest'.

I've spent a lot of time I don't really have over the last fortnight teaching staff on our newly 'flipped' covid wards what to look for and best management even though there's a LOT of fires to be putting out right now. Why? It'll pay off in a couple of weeks time, when they're a bit more savvy and confident dealing with covid and knowing what to look for when thinking about escalating concerns and ultimately result in fewer little 'fires' to put out.
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I think Brewdog have a little problem on their hands. Many of their sites are City Centre venues where it is thought will struggle versus more community based venues once the hospitality industry is allowed to start its recovery.

Brewdog do some nice Beer though.
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 23:03 - Jan 5 by hatch

Whilst it’s clearly a good thing to be doing I feel a bit uneasy with all this.

I saw his initial post on LinkedIn that everyone was boosting and it was appealing to the government to use their venues. I just thought, why are you posting it on here rather than contacting them directly? I appreciate public awareness may raise their chances of being heard by govt but it’s also just a massive PR boost.

My cynical side just sees it as them exploiting a pandemic recovery to boost PR.

I’m sure if I was their CEO I’d be supportive of the idea but it’s just irked me that they feel the need to be so public about it.


Brewdog are a sh1tty company with a PR loving narcissist CEO.

Punk? Ha.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:01 - Jan 6 with 2843 viewsCoastalblue

Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 07:47 - Jan 6 by monytowbray

Brewdog are a sh1tty company with a PR loving narcissist CEO.

Punk? Ha.


I think they did 'sell out man' a good while ago, hardly the cottage industry small scale brewer they still like to portray.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:01 - Jan 6 by Coastalblue

I think they did 'sell out man' a good while ago, hardly the cottage industry small scale brewer they still like to portray.


The UK’s largest indie brewer. Even though 22% of it is owned by conglomerate in San Fran you’ve never heard of.

All about Punk ethos, despite copyrighting the word to some extent that allows them to threaten legal action if any other drink based business uses a word invented 50 years ago to describe a counter culture movement.

All about a fairer world, yet happily steal ideas from marketers without paying them.

Brewdog is pulling a Richard Branson on us, tell them to f*ck off and buy from that Away Days chap who STILL hasn’t veganised his range yet, the b*stard! Although I don’t drink anymore so he may have missed the boat for me. Perhaps by the time he launches a vegan 0% beer I’ll have reached a level of smug enlightenment that surpasses the need for digesting fluids.
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:23 - Jan 6 with 2803 viewsCoastalblue

Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:12 - Jan 6 by monytowbray

The UK’s largest indie brewer. Even though 22% of it is owned by conglomerate in San Fran you’ve never heard of.

All about Punk ethos, despite copyrighting the word to some extent that allows them to threaten legal action if any other drink based business uses a word invented 50 years ago to describe a counter culture movement.

All about a fairer world, yet happily steal ideas from marketers without paying them.

Brewdog is pulling a Richard Branson on us, tell them to f*ck off and buy from that Away Days chap who STILL hasn’t veganised his range yet, the b*stard! Although I don’t drink anymore so he may have missed the boat for me. Perhaps by the time he launches a vegan 0% beer I’ll have reached a level of smug enlightenment that surpasses the need for digesting fluids.
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Away Days is a bloody good drop of stuff, I've had a *cough couple* of deliveries.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:36 - Jan 6 with 2801 viewsStokieBlue

Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:12 - Jan 6 by monytowbray

The UK’s largest indie brewer. Even though 22% of it is owned by conglomerate in San Fran you’ve never heard of.

All about Punk ethos, despite copyrighting the word to some extent that allows them to threaten legal action if any other drink based business uses a word invented 50 years ago to describe a counter culture movement.

All about a fairer world, yet happily steal ideas from marketers without paying them.

Brewdog is pulling a Richard Branson on us, tell them to f*ck off and buy from that Away Days chap who STILL hasn’t veganised his range yet, the b*stard! Although I don’t drink anymore so he may have missed the boat for me. Perhaps by the time he launches a vegan 0% beer I’ll have reached a level of smug enlightenment that surpasses the need for digesting fluids.
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Nobody said they were perfect and I agree with a lot of your post, although as things grow they are always going to become more corporate.

I'm sure you do, but do you feel the same about Oatly being partially owned by BlackRock?

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 07:47 - Jan 6 by monytowbray

Brewdog are a sh1tty company with a PR loving narcissist CEO.

Punk? Ha.


Plus their beer is sour muck sold in Coke-sized cans for the same price as a near-pint of most other bitters/ales.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 09:13 - Jan 6 by Guthrum

Plus their beer is sour muck sold in Coke-sized cans for the same price as a near-pint of most other bitters/ales.


The non-alcoholic stuff is decent, and almost permanently on offer. Which is more than can be said for a lot of other brewers.

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 08:36 - Jan 6 by StokieBlue

Nobody said they were perfect and I agree with a lot of your post, although as things grow they are always going to become more corporate.

I'm sure you do, but do you feel the same about Oatly being partially owned by BlackRock?

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You're not wrong that it's business as usual, but if we keep buying it and congratulating crappy companies based on marketing spin we're stuck with it.

Apple are one that really f*cks me off because I love their products, I just can't get on board with their value (a trillion dollars!?) and love of Chinese torture camp slave labour.
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Just as an addendum it needs to be noted that you should avoid alcohol after the jab for a few days as it is thought it can reduce the efficacy of the vaccine.
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 09:21 - Jan 6 by monytowbray

You're not wrong that it's business as usual, but if we keep buying it and congratulating crappy companies based on marketing spin we're stuck with it.

Apple are one that really f*cks me off because I love their products, I just can't get on board with their value (a trillion dollars!?) and love of Chinese torture camp slave labour.
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All very fair points. I would say though that isn't the logical conclusion of your complaint that companies can never really grow very large regardless of the work of the founder? Perhaps that's a good thing for society as a whole if companies don't get too large.

The value of Apple isn't really Apple's fault though. It's the fault of other people being willing to pay huge sums to own their shares. Certainly a very fair point on their Chinese labour, I don't have any Apple products.

And on Oatly?

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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 09:27 - Jan 6 by JohnWarksTash

Just as an addendum it needs to be noted that you should avoid alcohol after the jab for a few days as it is thought it can reduce the efficacy of the vaccine.


I did wonder about the sense of such an offer!

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"theres not a bandwagon we arent prepared to jump on to promote our brand for social media likes"

not a catchy name for a beer Id accept, but it sums them up perfectly I think
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Brewdog offering their pubs as vaccination centres on 09:30 - Jan 6 by StokieBlue

All very fair points. I would say though that isn't the logical conclusion of your complaint that companies can never really grow very large regardless of the work of the founder? Perhaps that's a good thing for society as a whole if companies don't get too large.

The value of Apple isn't really Apple's fault though. It's the fault of other people being willing to pay huge sums to own their shares. Certainly a very fair point on their Chinese labour, I don't have any Apple products.

And on Oatly?

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I have a Macbook and an iPhone, but in the way of getting what I need from tech for life/work vs other options I'm stuck with it. I have been dodging upgrading my phone for a year though.

I think the last sentence of the first paragraph is where I sit on that side of things - we've broken up industries before, we need to do it again now. The internet (and arguably every development since the industrial revolution) has accelerated growth in a way where the law is constantly playing catchup to the impacts.

As for Oatly - yeah it is annoying and I didn't buy their explanation of taking the system down from the inside as justification. Vegan capitalism is a whole other debate involving contextual scales of "good" which I'd love to go into with you, maybe on another thread and another day though. It's not a quick topic to cover as it goes into LEVEL FIVE I DON'T EAT ANYTHING THAT CASTS A SHADOW territory with capitalism's arguably incompatible place inside and outside of vegan ethics. l Don't wanna side track too much and I have a lot of work to get done.

Speaking of which, I need to get the f*ck off this screen! I only popped on to wait for the coffee to brew... 15 minutes ago.
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