Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it 13:14 - Mar 11 with 3751 views | chrismakin | Seeing the thread below showing effectively a whole starting 11 and subs all out of contract. For a professional club that is a shambles of the highest order. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 13:16 - Mar 11 with 3721 views | SuperCoops | I suspect that is the norm at a lot of clubs in recent years, not just us. |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 13:27 - Mar 11 with 3658 views | jayessess | A bit. The problem is that we've recruited so badly that barely any of the expirees make a compelling case for a decent contract extension. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 15:45 - Mar 11 with 3508 views | Vaughan8 | I think a lot of lower league clubs do this though. My dad supports Tranmere and the turnover of players is unreal. Some are only signed on 1 year contracts so anyone decent gets snapped up by other clubs on a free (Norwood) and the rest either sign the new contract or move on and you start again the next season with a virtually new squad. maybe less so in League 1. However not knowing what league you're going to be in next season will make a difference. I'm assuming the ones with an option of extension are in our hands? |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 15:51 - Mar 11 with 3495 views | Wallingford_Boy | Isn't it simply that we don't currently know which league we will be in? Difficult to offer contracts to some more senior players in particular, until we have a clearer idea on budgets. You might say thats a risky game to play, but I think we have little choice in our current financial situation. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:11 - Mar 11 with 3446 views | Kieran_Knows | It has been for a number of years now. Hopefully with new ownership and a better structure behind the scenes, it'll improve from now on in. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:12 - Mar 11 with 3438 views | monty_radio |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 15:45 - Mar 11 by Vaughan8 | I think a lot of lower league clubs do this though. My dad supports Tranmere and the turnover of players is unreal. Some are only signed on 1 year contracts so anyone decent gets snapped up by other clubs on a free (Norwood) and the rest either sign the new contract or move on and you start again the next season with a virtually new squad. maybe less so in League 1. However not knowing what league you're going to be in next season will make a difference. I'm assuming the ones with an option of extension are in our hands? |
Take your point about the lower leagues especially. L2 churn is massive. But that's not really why we've arrived here, notwithstanding the end-of-season unknowns. Lambert spoke about "needing some help", and promptly signed four more loans that fufilled no discernible purpose. While these out-of-contract situations don't relate to loans, they exhibit the same kind of pile-em-high mentality. It all speaks of a club that has got used to waiting, not because time will reveal all, but because we don't actually know what we're doing. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:13 - Mar 11 with 3435 views | jayessess |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 15:51 - Mar 11 by Wallingford_Boy | Isn't it simply that we don't currently know which league we will be in? Difficult to offer contracts to some more senior players in particular, until we have a clearer idea on budgets. You might say thats a risky game to play, but I think we have little choice in our current financial situation. |
If many of our players had any significant value, we'd be securing them regardless, as we've done for Woolfenden, Dozzell and Downes. The rest of our squad are either too old or too rubbish (often both) for it to be worth it. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:42 - Mar 11 with 3368 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:13 - Mar 11 by jayessess | If many of our players had any significant value, we'd be securing them regardless, as we've done for Woolfenden, Dozzell and Downes. The rest of our squad are either too old or too rubbish (often both) for it to be worth it. |
Exactly, the younger players would be on lower wages too. No-one worth worrying over too much, if we don't go up, can always offer one or two a deal on reduced wages. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:47 - Mar 11 with 3356 views | PhilTWTD |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 15:51 - Mar 11 by Wallingford_Boy | Isn't it simply that we don't currently know which league we will be in? Difficult to offer contracts to some more senior players in particular, until we have a clearer idea on budgets. You might say thats a risky game to play, but I think we have little choice in our current financial situation. |
A bit of that and a lot of the salary cap before it was scrapped. Also the financial implications of Covid meant it was difficult to offload players last summer if they were in contract. |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:58 - Mar 11 with 3290 views | BlueWorldOrder | This isn't the first time any of this has happened under Evans. We had players like McAuley, Leadbitter and Delaney walk away for free because we couldn't get it sorted. We've also had bloated squad full of loans before as well. People have spent months laying the blame at Lamberts door but most of this nonsense is pure Evans chaos. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:59 - Mar 11 with 3276 views | BryanPlug | [content removed at owner's request] |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 17:00 - Mar 11 with 3274 views | Beckets |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:47 - Mar 11 by PhilTWTD | A bit of that and a lot of the salary cap before it was scrapped. Also the financial implications of Covid meant it was difficult to offload players last summer if they were in contract. |
I know the salary cap has gone but what about the cap on squad numbers? Is that still a factor. I seem to recall it’s a squad limit of 20 aged 21 or above next season which also would be a consideration in any contract decisions. |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 19:11 - Mar 11 with 3143 views | southnorfolkblue | The club has options on a fair few I believe. The main player who is genuinely out of contract is Edwards. Frankly it would be more of a shambles if we had this rabble committed to long term contracts! |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 19:30 - Mar 11 with 3115 views | Churchman |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 13:27 - Mar 11 by jayessess | A bit. The problem is that we've recruited so badly that barely any of the expirees make a compelling case for a decent contract extension. |
I wouldn’t lose sleep if they all decided their futures’ lay elsewhere. In fact, if any contracted players wants away, I’d let them go too if I were Cook. In a bizarre sort of way it looks like he will be in a good position to shape his own team quicker than would normally be the case. [Post edited 11 Mar 2021 19:41]
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 19:39 - Mar 11 with 3096 views | PhilTWTD |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 17:00 - Mar 11 by Beckets | I know the salary cap has gone but what about the cap on squad numbers? Is that still a factor. I seem to recall it’s a squad limit of 20 aged 21 or above next season which also would be a consideration in any contract decisions. |
I assume that's all part of the same thing, but it's a good point. There will be something to replace it in terms of financial controls. At the time of the scrapping they said: "The EFL will now discuss the matter of financial controls and implications linked to this outcome at a series of meetings with its member clubs later this week.” |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 08:51 - Mar 13 with 2822 views | ArnieM | The contract situation is a reflection of the previous two managers . But with half the squad effectively unemployed in the summer is giving Paul Cook a massive leg up IMO , as it clears the decks for him , allowing the wages budget to be slashed and freeing Cook up to recruit more easily. It’s a watershed moment for ITFC - especially IF that take over really does happen ! |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 09:12 - Mar 13 with 2782 views | Ace_High1 | It is a blessing in disguise, need a mass clearcut, at least 20players out please. This squad has been together for the last 3-4 years and is the worst ITFC squad in history. We need to get rid of ALL the squad filler. Quality and kids only please. |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 09:25 - Mar 13 with 2744 views | Herbivore |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 16:58 - Mar 11 by BlueWorldOrder | This isn't the first time any of this has happened under Evans. We had players like McAuley, Leadbitter and Delaney walk away for free because we couldn't get it sorted. We've also had bloated squad full of loans before as well. People have spent months laying the blame at Lamberts door but most of this nonsense is pure Evans chaos. |
Delaney was under contract when we agreed to release him. |  |
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Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 09:39 - Mar 13 with 2702 views | Beckets |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 09:12 - Mar 13 by Ace_High1 | It is a blessing in disguise, need a mass clearcut, at least 20players out please. This squad has been together for the last 3-4 years and is the worst ITFC squad in history. We need to get rid of ALL the squad filler. Quality and kids only please. |
15 out must be straightforward. 6 loanees plus Wright, Cotter, Folami, Clements, Huws, Sears, Donacien, Drinan and Ward. |  | |  |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 09:55 - Mar 13 with 2646 views | bobbyramsey |
Our contract situ is embarrassing isnt it on 09:39 - Mar 13 by Beckets | 15 out must be straightforward. 6 loanees plus Wright, Cotter, Folami, Clements, Huws, Sears, Donacien, Drinan and Ward. |
Surely getting rid of so many players would free up enough wages to go and get a couple of pretty decent additions? I know, I know it's Evans but if Cook needs to succeed..... [Post edited 13 Mar 2021 9:56]
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