| Season tracker 14:26 - Aug 17 with 1620 views | Bluefish |
Is it agreed that we want 85 points this season? I'm not sure on the stats but I saw that number mentioned
86 points ÷ 46 games = 1.848 points per game
1 point ÷ 2 games = 0.5 points per game
85 points ÷ 44 remaining games = 1.909 points per game
Early days but we don't want to let that number keep getting bigger
BlAcKpOoL defied all the odds and all that |  |
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| Season tracker on 14:27 - Aug 17 with 1600 views | Mediocre_Quick |
100 Points 10 Goals |  | | |
| Season tracker on 14:27 - Aug 17 with 1601 views | homer_123 |
No - you just need more points than the team in 3rd. |  |
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| Season tracker on 14:28 - Aug 17 with 1588 views | Bluefish |
| Season tracker on 14:27 - Aug 17 by homer_123 |
No - you just need more points than the team in 3rd. |
Odd way to set targets | |
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| We need 7 points.... on 14:29 - Aug 17 with 1584 views | Bloots |
...from the next 2 matches ideally. |  |
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| Season tracker on 14:30 - Aug 17 with 1575 views | homer_123 |
| Season tracker on 14:28 - Aug 17 by Bluefish |
Odd way to set targets |
Setting 85 and finding out 2nd place has 90 is also odd. | |
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| Season tracker on 14:31 - Aug 17 with 1573 views | Steve_M |
How many points do we get for playing 'the best football in years', that should help make up the deficit a bit?
Less facetiously, far too soon to worry about being behind on a PPG basis but winning some games soon would definitely help. |  |
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| Season tracker on 14:31 - Aug 17 with 1565 views | Pinewoodblue |
Have a feeling we may need more than 85pts for automatic but more than enough for ply offs. |  |
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| Tonight on 14:32 - Aug 17 with 1560 views | Keno |
| We need 7 points.... on 14:29 - Aug 17 by Bloots |
...from the next 2 matches ideally. |
we need to equalise before Cheltenham take the lead |  |
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| Season tracker on 14:32 - Aug 17 with 1562 views | Bluefish |
| Season tracker on 14:31 - Aug 17 by Steve_M |
How many points do we get for playing 'the best football in years', that should help make up the deficit a bit?
Less facetiously, far too soon to worry about being behind on a PPG basis but winning some games soon would definitely help. |
Agreed (on both points) but it was seen as a recurring item hence a tracker | |
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| Season tracker on 14:34 - Aug 17 with 1550 views | Bluefish |
| Season tracker on 14:30 - Aug 17 by homer_123 |
Setting 85 and finding out 2nd place has 90 is also odd. |
That is why you base it on history and points | |
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| Season tracker on 14:47 - Aug 17 with 1497 views | Illinoisblue |
If only there was some kind of table showing how many points each team has. A table that updated as the season progresses. |  |
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| Season tracker on 14:51 - Aug 17 with 1482 views | homer_123 |
| Season tracker on 14:47 - Aug 17 by Illinoisblue |
If only there was some kind of table showing how many points each team has. A table that updated as the season progresses. |
What, like a running total kinda thing? | |
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| Season tracker on 14:57 - Aug 17 with 1463 views | itfcjoe |
I think 85 points represents a minimum needed to come in the top 2, plus the sort of performance where if you do it and miss out in the play offs it shows you are a good side.
That number can't creep far above up above 2ppg required.
If after 10 games we haven't got 15 points you are starting to get in trouble - picking up less than 1.5 points per game even when gelling should be easily done with the qualty we have - means we need a couple of wins in the next 3 games as a minimum |  |
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| Season tracker on 15:05 - Aug 17 with 1427 views | Mullet |
| Season tracker on 14:57 - Aug 17 by itfcjoe |
I think 85 points represents a minimum needed to come in the top 2, plus the sort of performance where if you do it and miss out in the play offs it shows you are a good side.
That number can't creep far above up above 2ppg required.
If after 10 games we haven't got 15 points you are starting to get in trouble - picking up less than 1.5 points per game even when gelling should be easily done with the qualty we have - means we need a couple of wins in the next 3 games as a minimum |
I think move to 4 from 9 and then 7 from 12 by the end of this week will not only steady a few nerves on here, but allow us to pick a more settled side. I'd expect Burgess to make a big impact immediately in that regard.
Once we're over that 50% mark it'd be great to see a steady run of 1-0's rather than blowing away one team and labouring too much against others. |  |
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| Season tracker on 15:06 - Aug 17 with 1409 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Season tracker on 15:05 - Aug 17 by Mullet |
I think move to 4 from 9 and then 7 from 12 by the end of this week will not only steady a few nerves on here, but allow us to pick a more settled side. I'd expect Burgess to make a big impact immediately in that regard.
Once we're over that 50% mark it'd be great to see a steady run of 1-0's rather than blowing away one team and labouring too much against others. |
Two wins from the next two matches would certainly do that. |  |
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| Season tracker on 15:06 - Aug 17 with 1408 views | itfcsuth |
85 points would leave you in a good position, whether it would be enough for top 2 I don't, it may just fall short.
When you look at the last 4 years since Paul Cook won the league with Wigan, the requirements have been:
20/21
Top 2 - 87pts
Top 6 - 74 pts
19/20 - Covid Season
Top 2 - 81pts
Top 6 - 79 pts
18/19
Top 2 - 91pts
Top 6 - 73pts
17/18
Top 2 - 96pts
Top 6 - 71pts |  | | |
| Season tracker on 15:19 - Aug 17 with 1346 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
This is correct. Going above a requirement of 2 points per game is a big ask, especially if that is over many games.
Another way of looking at it is that we need around 29 wins. 29 wins out of 46 games is a win percentage of 63%. That has now become 66%. Fail to win tonight it would become 67.4% but a win brings it to 65%.
No team is going to consistently win throughout the whole season, but there is no disputing that the longer we go without a win, the bigger the task ahead becomes.
COYB - get that first win tonight and then build on it with a couple more in rapid succession. Let's get this season going! |  |
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| Season tracker on 15:26 - Aug 17 with 1316 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Season tracker on 15:06 - Aug 17 by itfcsuth |
85 points would leave you in a good position, whether it would be enough for top 2 I don't, it may just fall short.
When you look at the last 4 years since Paul Cook won the league with Wigan, the requirements have been:
20/21
Top 2 - 87pts
Top 6 - 74 pts
19/20 - Covid Season
Top 2 - 81pts
Top 6 - 79 pts
18/19
Top 2 - 91pts
Top 6 - 73pts
17/18
Top 2 - 96pts
Top 6 - 71pts |
It is actually the points for 3rd place that have to be bettered rather than matching what the team who finished 2nd did. For example, 89 points would have been enough for Barnsley in 18/19.
I suspect we are generally looking at needing a minimum of 85 points but probably closer to 90. Assuming we draw roughly half of the games we fail to win, 26 wins should be enough. | |
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| Season tracker on 07:42 - Aug 18 with 1137 views | Bluefish |
Last night puts us up to 1.953 required. If we lose the next one it goes to 2 points per game | |
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| Season tracker on 07:49 - Aug 18 with 1109 views | TrumptonBlue |
| Season tracker on 07:42 - Aug 18 by Bluefish |
Last night puts us up to 1.953 required. If we lose the next one it goes to 2 points per game |
But it's still only about 1 point per game required to avoid relegation, so not all bad news. |  | | |
| Season tracker on 07:57 - Aug 18 with 1074 views | Bluefish |
| Season tracker on 07:49 - Aug 18 by TrumptonBlue |
But it's still only about 1 point per game required to avoid relegation, so not all bad news. |
Looks a tough ask based on the current 0.33 considering we ve played Morecambe, Burton and Cheltenham | |
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| Season tracker on 07:57 - Aug 18 with 1073 views | marcus1642 |
90 points minimum to go up automatically. Town are staying in league 1 this season I'm not sure we will make the play offs. |  | | |
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