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Would it not make more sense for the top six most important clubs to be fast tracked to the sixth round, given an automatic home game, a two goal start and an extra man? That would save the poor hard done by lambs three games, stress on their legs and make it much more interesting. Not.
Oh and so they don’t miss out on gate receipts for the three earlier rounds, they each get subsidy money from the clubs that did play. Only fair.
They’ve killed the FA Cup.
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FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 05:56 - Sep 22 with 1854 views
Whilst I’m against most changes in football. After all it is a sport of 11 V 11 with a goalkeeper, a football and a pitch that’s generally the same size within a tolerance the world over, how much innovation in rules, technology, or competitions is needed each year?
Of all the constant changes in football, stopping replays is my least unfavourable one!
I would however like to see the financial package looked at if this means less potential revenue for smaller clubs. I’m also not into the bit about EPL clubs entering their U21 or b teams. Either have the competition or don’t. I’m not looking for ways to accommodate huge EPL squads and oversized Academy programmes.
Hmmm, I wonder where this idea originated?? A competition that has more that 150 years of tradition, where replays have been an intrinsic part of that tradition, being chucked aside at the whim of the Big 6 so that they can fit in more lucrative matches. I'd sooner see the top 6 leave the PL altogether and sod off to play in a European exhibition League with no relegation, leaving the rest of English football to get back to how it used to be.
Why don't they just cut to the chase and ask Man U if they agree to win it this year? It'd save them being inconvenience by having to play football and all that sort of fuss.
There’s already an imbalance in the competition as it is, with the inclusion of VAR being used in some ties, but not in others - obviously not all clubs have it in place, and the same borderline decisions could happen in all games, but only those with VAR get it verified by replaying. In our cup history, there’s certainly a few instances where VAR would’ve led to a completely different outcome.
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 09:13 - Sep 22 by hoppy
There’s already an imbalance in the competition as it is, with the inclusion of VAR being used in some ties, but not in others - obviously not all clubs have it in place, and the same borderline decisions could happen in all games, but only those with VAR get it verified by replaying. In our cup history, there’s certainly a few instances where VAR would’ve led to a completely different outcome.
With the recent VAR decisions, though, I think it's the teams without it that are the ones benefiting!
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FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 10:31 - Sep 22 with 1433 views
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 09:38 - Sep 22 by SamWhiteUK
With the recent VAR decisions, though, I think it's the teams without it that are the ones benefiting!
That’s as maybe… but as it is, you get some ties where it could be at a lower league ground, the home side could be on the verge of a famous upset against a premier league club, when the Premier side score some dodgy goal (like Wednesday’s second against us last week, for example), which then takes it to a replay. The replay then uses VAR, the underdogs score an exact same goal which gets replayed and re looked at and cancelled out, denying them a victory, the Prem side holds on and goes through on pens. Is that then fair?
In certain non-league compettions both teams decide prior to game whether they want a replay and if both agree they don't then it will be settled on the night - this makes more sense generally
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 10:34 - Sep 22 by itfcjoe
In certain non-league compettions both teams decide prior to game whether they want a replay and if both agree they don't then it will be settled on the night - this makes more sense generally
Some of our recent managers would probably agree to deciding a game by a toss of a coin, not even wanting to play 90 minutes, would have improved chances of progressing to next round.
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 10:46 - Sep 22 by hype313
The only way to make it a serious competition is to offer a CL place to the winners and take away the 4th spot in the PL.
But we know that won't happen.
Agreed. Look at the Europa League latter stages now. They all want to win it, espeically if they won't qualify through their league.
As you say, will never happen as the premier league is its own machine and they aren't going to vote to drop one of the places are they? haha
I get it regarding the replays. But don't you just think the Big teams are going to "bully" the smaller teams into what they want (probably with a backhander.....!)
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FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 15:44 - Sep 22 with 1202 views
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 09:13 - Sep 22 by hoppy
There’s already an imbalance in the competition as it is, with the inclusion of VAR being used in some ties, but not in others - obviously not all clubs have it in place, and the same borderline decisions could happen in all games, but only those with VAR get it verified by replaying. In our cup history, there’s certainly a few instances where VAR would’ve led to a completely different outcome.
There is no "advantage" to any club of VAR being used in their game or not as it has no intrinsic bias to either team. The idea that VAR should be used in all ties or non in nonsensical.
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 15:44 - Sep 22 by Radlett_blue
There is no "advantage" to any club of VAR being used in their game or not as it has no intrinsic bias to either team. The idea that VAR should be used in all ties or non in nonsensical.
But it can lead to different outcomes, as I said in a further scenario...
"but as it is, you get some ties where it could be at a lower league ground, the home side could be on the verge of a famous upset against a premier league club, when the Premier side score some dodgy goal (like Wednesday’s second against us last week, for example), which then takes it to a replay. The replay then uses VAR, the underdogs score an exact same goal which gets replayed and re looked at and cancelled out, denying them a victory, the Prem side holds on and goes through on pens. Is that then fair?"
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 16:03 - Sep 22 by hoppy
But it can lead to different outcomes, as I said in a further scenario...
"but as it is, you get some ties where it could be at a lower league ground, the home side could be on the verge of a famous upset against a premier league club, when the Premier side score some dodgy goal (like Wednesday’s second against us last week, for example), which then takes it to a replay. The replay then uses VAR, the underdogs score an exact same goal which gets replayed and re looked at and cancelled out, denying them a victory, the Prem side holds on and goes through on pens. Is that then fair?"
No, it's perfectly fair because VAR theoretically produces more accurate decisions, that are fairer to both teams.
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 13:04 - Sep 22 by Vaughan8
Agreed. Look at the Europa League latter stages now. They all want to win it, espeically if they won't qualify through their league.
As you say, will never happen as the premier league is its own machine and they aren't going to vote to drop one of the places are they? haha
I get it regarding the replays. But don't you just think the Big teams are going to "bully" the smaller teams into what they want (probably with a backhander.....!)
If a small club plays a top six club at home, there's no chance they would agree to no replay - unless, as you say money/compensation is involved - that could lead to all sorts of naughtiness
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FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 17:01 - Sep 22 with 1111 views
FA proposing to scrap some replays in 3rd and 4th rounds if clubs agree on 16:41 - Sep 22 by TexacoCup
If a small club plays a top six club at home, there's no chance they would agree to no replay - unless, as you say money/compensation is involved - that could lead to all sorts of naughtiness
Interestingly enough, it used to be rule of the FA Cup that if both clubs agreed beforehand, they could play extra time at the end of the initial game. Unsurprisingly, away teams never agreed to it as they felt they would have a better chance in a home replay & in the old days, clubs liked the income from a replay. I wonder if it could have been used to avoid these situations in the past when a tie ended up with "a replay neither manager wanted"? The FA Cup is like a pig with lipstick these days, having been devalued so much so I don't think scrapping replays would be the end of the world & it would give the underdogs a better chance of progress, although some of them love the TV income from a surprise replay.
I did wonder at one point after last season if replays would've been scrapped forever and thus we would've been the answer to a pub quiz question, "Who lost the last ever FA Cup replay?"
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