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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year 11:45 - Oct 22 with 2573 viewsArnoldMoorhen

A short thread...

Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence. Initiated the response over Ukraine, got the British Military top brass on board and singing from the same hymn sheet on it.

And then, critically, TWICE has said, in response to clamour that he should stand as a leadership candidate and exploit his achievements:

"FFS! Don't you know there's a war on? Please just leave me the fck alone to do my job!"

And that's it for me.

There was that bloke having a breakdown in the Commons Lobby the other night who sounded like he cared about the total shtshow because of how it was damaging the country, but then his mask slipped at the end and he blubbed "And us poor Backbenchers are going to lose our jobs!" So not him.

Any others?
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:46 - Oct 22 with 2157 viewsKeno

Penny Mordaunt - she remains me of a younger Catherine Deneuve

thats its really

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:48 - Oct 22 with 2140 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

On dodgy ground with Wallace as he is "leaning towards" a Johnson return.

As for any others then, no; not one of them.

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:52 - Oct 22 with 2124 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:48 - Oct 22 by You_Bloo_Right

On dodgy ground with Wallace as he is "leaning towards" a Johnson return.

As for any others then, no; not one of them.


I suspect he has said the absolute minimum to ensure he can continue in the job, whatever happens, and get the media out of his face this week.
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:53 - Oct 22 with 2112 viewsMookamoo

Charles Walker

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:54 - Oct 22 with 2110 viewsblueislander

Waiting for Harry’s contribution. Who will get his vote?
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:54 - Oct 22 with 2103 viewsWeWereZombies

Alok Sharma

He did a good job hosting CoP26 and his recommendation for KIng Charles to change his position against the pressure from Liz Truss (I know, we will have to wait seventy five years for the papers to be published that would show my assertion to be true) and attend CoP27 was welcome.

We do have to set his equivocating position on Heathrow expnansion against these good points though.

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:55 - Oct 22 with 2106 viewstractordownsouth

Roger Gale. He's been very consistently anti-Johnson and has pledged to leave the party if he becomes leader again. Given that this would essentially end his career, that's a principled stance to take.

And his description of the over-promoted David Frost is very funny.


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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:55 - Oct 22 with 2094 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:46 - Oct 22 by Keno

Penny Mordaunt - she remains me of a younger Catherine Deneuve

thats its really


And you post like a "To the Manor Born" era Peter Bowles, you suave old thing!
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:56 - Oct 22 with 2091 viewsleitrimblue

Margaret Thatcher
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:56 - Oct 22 with 2080 viewsBLUEGOLD

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:54 - Oct 22 by WeWereZombies

Alok Sharma

He did a good job hosting CoP26 and his recommendation for KIng Charles to change his position against the pressure from Liz Truss (I know, we will have to wait seventy five years for the papers to be published that would show my assertion to be true) and attend CoP27 was welcome.

We do have to set his equivocating position on Heathrow expnansion against these good points though.


Also supports Johnson, so blotted his copybook there like Wallace
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:58 - Oct 22 with 2080 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:53 - Oct 22 by Mookamoo

Charles Walker



As Arnie said Walker's concern is for the "jobs" of those backbench MPs expected to be wiped out at the next GE; nothing more, nothing less. He is yet another example of one of the things that is wrong with politics in the UK atm.

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:59 - Oct 22 with 2074 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:54 - Oct 22 by WeWereZombies

Alok Sharma

He did a good job hosting CoP26 and his recommendation for KIng Charles to change his position against the pressure from Liz Truss (I know, we will have to wait seventy five years for the papers to be published that would show my assertion to be true) and attend CoP27 was welcome.

We do have to set his equivocating position on Heathrow expnansion against these good points though.


Yes. Absolutely fair enough. He did a very good job, in impossible circumstances. There will always be some equivocation from a Cabinet Minister, I suppose, because of Collective Responsibility.
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:00 - Oct 22 with 2069 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:54 - Oct 22 by blueislander

Waiting for Harry’s contribution. Who will get his vote?


Christian Wakeford

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:05 - Oct 22 with 2049 viewsWeWereZombies

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:00 - Oct 22 by You_Bloo_Right

Christian Wakeford


I didn't know who he was so I looked him up on Wikipedia, this is interesting:

'Shortly after his defection, allegations were made of blackmail and bullying by Conservative Party whips. Wakeford said in an interview that he had experienced this behaviour when he was previously threatened with the loss of funding for a local school if he did not vote with Government on a motion regarding free school meals. He said: "I was threatened that I would not get a school for Radcliffe if I did not vote in one particular way. This is a town that has not had a high school for the best part of 10 years. How would you feel when they hold back the regeneration of a town for a vote. It didn't sit comfortably. That was the start of me questioning my place, where I was and ultimately to where I am now."

Later that week, Wakeford accused Gavin Williamson, the then education secretary, of being the person behind this.'

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:12 - Oct 22 with 2014 viewsChurchman

Talk about looking for crumbs. I think they should all have their rear ends kicked right out of the door. They’re just there to save their own skins and fill their boots while they can. The idea of any of them doing anything for 99% of this country’s people other than rob them is laughable.

I would have also said Ben Wallace until I read that he is likely to support idle airmiles Johnson.
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:13 - Oct 22 with 2014 viewsEastTownBlue

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:55 - Oct 22 by tractordownsouth

Roger Gale. He's been very consistently anti-Johnson and has pledged to leave the party if he becomes leader again. Given that this would essentially end his career, that's a principled stance to take.

And his description of the over-promoted David Frost is very funny.



He may agree with this though…

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:16 - Oct 22 with 1998 viewsMookamoo

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:58 - Oct 22 by You_Bloo_Right

As Arnie said Walker's concern is for the "jobs" of those backbench MPs expected to be wiped out at the next GE; nothing more, nothing less. He is yet another example of one of the things that is wrong with politics in the UK atm.


Findng good one is impossible. Yes it was primarily an inward looking outburst (if you can outburst inwards....) but he did call out fellow Tories for voting for their own ministerial careers above the national interests
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 12:42 - Oct 22 with 1942 viewsTangledupin_Blue

Any tory MPs rising from the norm would still only be at the level where they stick to the bottom of you shoe. They are all venal enablers of the most corrupt incompetent self serving snout-in-the-trough government this country is ever likely to see.

If any of them had even a shred of decency they would cross the floor.

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 14:31 - Oct 22 with 1836 viewsElephantintheRoom

Michael Gove called out Truss and her sycophant loons at the Tory conference which brought him up from a very ow and greasy bar in my estimation. Strangely Nadine Dories for calling for an election when Kwarteng and Truss were steaming fuol steam ahead for the rocks

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 14:39 - Oct 22 with 1830 viewsGlasgowBlue

The obvious answer would have been Keir Starmer.

But seriously, not necessarily the past year, but Johnny Mercer, Tobias Ellwood and Andrew Mitchell spring to mind.

Ex Tories David Gauke and Rory Stewart. If we had those two plus the three in the former paragraph then we'd be in a better state than we are now.
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 16:24 - Oct 22 with 1671 viewsBlueBadger

And yet again, the Iain Banks quote regarding maize springs to mind.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 16:30 - Oct 22 with 1652 viewsJ2BLUE

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:53 - Oct 22 by Mookamoo

Charles Walker



His concern is for the party. He didn't say the word country once. It took him two minutes, after mentioning the party repeatedly, to mention the "national interest" which i'm sure if the national interest through the Tory ideology.

Can't believe anyone watches that and thinks his concern is for the country.

Truly impaired.
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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 17:04 - Oct 22 with 1606 viewsfactual_blue

The correct answer is, of course, 'none of them'.

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 17:29 - Oct 22 with 1580 viewsfactual_blue

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:46 - Oct 22 by Keno

Penny Mordaunt - she remains me of a younger Catherine Deneuve

thats its really


Are you familiar with a film called The Hunger, starring Deneuve, Susan Sarandon, and David Bowie?

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Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 18:52 - Oct 22 with 1514 viewsNBVJohn

Tory MPs who have gone up in your estimation in the past year on 11:55 - Oct 22 by ArnoldMoorhen

And you post like a "To the Manor Born" era Peter Bowles, you suave old thing!


Peter Bowles would have known that an apostrophe was required on ‘that’s’
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