Forum | So the Met regret arresting protesters by bluelagos

Forum index | Previous Thread | Next thread

So the Met regret arresting protesters 06:18 - May 9 with 2306 views

bluelagos

That's alright then, just move along...

Poll:

This new lockdown poll - what you reckon?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 07:24 - May 9 with 2223 views

Herbivore

Everyone, including them, knew it was wrong at the time. Doing it and then semi apologizing is bullsh!t. The damage has already been done.

Poll:	Latest TWTD opinion poll - who are you voting for?
Blog:	Where Did It All Go Wrong for Paul Hurst?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 08:39 - May 9 with 2151 views

Zx1988

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 07:24 - May 9 by Herbivore
Everyone, including them, knew it was wrong at the time. Doing it and then semi apologizing is bullsh!t. The damage has already been done.

Indeed. None of their mealy-mouthed explanations add up.

As if there'd be zero communication between the liaison officers and the officers on the ground along the lines of "Republic/Graham Smith have been given permission to protest, here are the details. Don't arrest them unless they deviate from the agreed plan (attached)."

They had their plan and carried it out to perfection.

	You ain't a beauty but, hey, you're alright.
Poll:	Stone Island - immediate associations

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 09:07 - May 9 with 2111 views

ArnoldMoorhen

Everyone has got the wrong end of the stick here, because of sloppy journalism.

The full quote was:

"The Metropolitan Police regret arresting the protesters from the organisation Republic, rather than disappearing them to a re-education camp, as our Chinese colleagues would have done."

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 09:54 - May 9 with 2060 views

Ryorry

What annoyed me just as much was their first response "what we did was perfectly legal" (or words to that effect) - when reprehensible, draconian new laws re the public's right to protest had only been put on the books with unseemly haste a couple of days before, by this reprehensible govt. & their fascistic tendencies.


Poll:	Town's most cultured left foot ever?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:12 - May 9 with 1987 views

Crawfordsboot

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 09:54 - May 9 by Ryorry
What annoyed me just as much was their first response "what we did was perfectly legal" (or words to that effect) - when reprehensible, draconian new laws re the public's right to protest had only been put on the books with unseemly haste a couple of days before, by this reprehensible govt. & their fascistic tendencies.

You identify the correct target for criticism here. It is this appalling Govt that introduced poorly thought out legislation and then expected the police to interpret and enforce the law.

Report in the Beeb today:

“Former Greater Manchester police chief Sir Peter said he gave evidence in Parliament expressing his concern that the new law was "poorly defined and far too broad".
He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "We see the consequences of that, particularly for the poor police officers who have to make sense of legislation that was only passed a few days ago.”

Only one Conservative MP voted against the legislation.

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:13 - May 9 with 1980 views

chicoazul

I can’t stand them any more than the next right thinking person but it strikes me they were caught between a rock and a hard place on this given the governments new legislation.

	In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Poll:	With Evans taking 65% in Huddersfield, is the Banter Era over?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:22 - May 9 with 1964 views

bluelagos

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:12 - May 9 by Crawfordsboot

It is of course perfectly possible that our politicians have passed poor laws and also that the police have over stepped the mark too.

And I would also point the finger at every single mouth frothing ranter who went off on one because a few hippies sit in the road or throw stuff at paintings. Their ludicrous attitudes are what empowered the politicians to pass these sh1tty laws.

Protest is something we should welcome not pass Draconian laws just because it sometimes inconveniences us. The attitudes of many to protesters is what lies behind these entirely foreseeable actions from the police.

Poll:

This new lockdown poll - what you reckon?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:34 - May 9 with 1941 views

Swansea_Blue

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 09:54 - May 9 by Ryorry
What annoyed me just as much was their first response "what we did was perfectly legal" (or words to that effect) - when reprehensible, draconian new laws re the public's right to protest had only been put on the books with unseemly haste a couple of days before, by this reprehensible govt. & their fascistic tendencies.

Quite.

Poll:

Do you think Pert is key to all of this?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:37 - May 9 with 1936 views

bluelagos

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:13 - May 9 by chicoazul
I can’t stand them any more than the next right thinking person but it strikes me they were caught between a rock and a hard place on this given the governments new legislation.

They chose to arrest people because they might be about to commit an offence.

The offence (of locking on) were new laws and there was (so it seems) nil evidence that the Republic guys were doing this

If you think that is justified that's your call.

Poll:

This new lockdown poll - what you reckon?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:57 - May 9 with 1819 views

Stewart27

The protestors have had more air time now as a result.

I don’t think many people would have taken much notice of their relevance on the day.

-6

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 13:12 - May 9 with 1789 views

HARRY10

I did point this out prior to the arrests. The law is such that anything can be interpreted as 'intent to' or 'suspicion of'

However, the actus reus was of plod on the ground, the mens rea was from above. Right to the top in the latter case, I would suggest. It needs to be explained what orders were given and by whom, as clearly people were being arrested solely for being there.

Responsibility..... cherchez la femme

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 20:47 - May 9 with 1680 views

HARRY10

A quite disturbing read.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/09/met-police-royal-protester

Sunak “the police are operationally independent of government”...... I’m not sure you get to pass draconian new legislation into law a mere three days before the coronation, then claim its prompt misuse has nothing to do with you"

"a mere 6% of those arrested for protesting against the coronation were charged with anything at all"

It was as I stated. The police can now snatch you off the streets for no reason other than to intimidate, or remove you from any form of protest.

If someone is subsequently charged and found guilty, then the arrest is justified. If the person is charged but then found not guilty, an argument can be made for the arrest, otherwise it amounts to unlawful detention. A method of intimidation, as the release time is invariably after the last public transport has stopped running.

Anyone with any concern about how the Met police act should read the above article, and perhaps consider the quote below (quotes are not out of context, just shortened for brevity).

" the Met is currently investigating more than 1,000 sexual assault and domestic abuse claims involving around 800 of its officers"

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 21:22 - May 9 with 1629 views

Oldsmoker

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 20:47 - May 9 by HARRY10

" the Met is currently investigating more than 1,000 sexual assault and domestic abuse claims involving around 800 of its officers"

If none of these officers have protested, then they won't be arrested.

	Don't believe a word I say. I'm only kidding. Or am I?
Poll:	What mode is best?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 21:24 - May 9 with 1624 views

Mullet

It was such a clear and obvious stitch up. Hopefully it only strengthens reform and more importantly the republic we all deserve.

The pathetic attempts by the Tories to stage manage and put focus on the farce of a coronation to distract us plebs was particularly transparent.

Poll:	Which itfc kit do you usually buy
Blog:	When the Fanzine Comes Around

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 21:27 - May 9 with 1604 views

ITFC_Forever

It was a blatant case of round them up just in case and put them out of the way, and then apologise after if necessary.

	P 1162, W 506, D 298, L 358, F 1749, A 1435 90 / 92
Blog:	Confessions of a Statto - Why We Bother

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 09:24 - May 10 with 1495 views

Crawfordsboot

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:22 - May 9 by bluelagos

Re your first paragraph - yes it is of course the case that the law is poorly framed and that the police may have overstepped the mark.

Re your second paragraph - the mouth frothing ranters are very much in the minority. There is a strong public groundswell in support of the right to protest. There is of course a range of protest from holding placards to shooting someone dead. Our views on what is an acceptable level of protest might differ but we would both want to protect the basic right.

It isn’t people’s attitude to protest that led to politicians passing these obscene laws it is ten years of awful politics in this country where a cabal of Johnson, Rees Mogg, the ERG group and their ilk have abused the democratic process leading to Brexit, proroguing of parliament, party gate, etc. They thought they could do whatever they wanted and were unstoppable.

Hopefully, the recent elections indicate that the majority at last see through this Government and change is coming. In the face of all the evidence If we don’t kick them out at the next election it’s our own d*** fault.

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 10:23 - May 10 with 1418 views

chicoazul

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 12:37 - May 9 by bluelagos
They chose to arrest people because they might be about to commit an offence. The offence (of locking on) were new laws and there was (so it seems) nil evidence that the Republic guys were doing this If you think that is justified that's your call.

I certainly don’t think it’s justified, no.

	In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Poll:	With Evans taking 65% in Huddersfield, is the Banter Era over?

So the Met regret arresting protesters on 14:58 - May 10 with 1350 views

DJR

This from PMQs made me laugh.

Stephen Flynn, the SNP leader, says, if Sunak were to go to his Land Rover and pull out placards saying “Save our non-doms”, would he expect to be arrested?

Forum index | Previous Thread | Next thread