| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... 23:33 - Jun 19 with 2876 views | BlueBadger |
...covid breaches.
What the F**K did the coppers running security think was going on? Why didn't they act? |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:40 - Jun 19 with 2422 views | SitfcB |
Paid off? |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:44 - Jun 19 with 2415 views | Ryorry |
Can't think - they were in the Met, therefore must have been the elite of the UK's police forces - the most intelligent, honest & beyond reproach of Her Maj's finest ...  |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:57 - Jun 19 with 2403 views | redrickstuhaart |
I think they were human and subconsciously conscious of social and political heriarchy.
One normalises things that one's "superiors" seem to think are normal.
I see nothing more sinister than human nature and fear of reprisal. |  | | |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:59 - Jun 19 with 2398 views | BlueBadger |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:57 - Jun 19 by redrickstuhaart |
I think they were human and subconsciously conscious of social and political heriarchy.
One normalises things that one's "superiors" seem to think are normal.
I see nothing more sinister than human nature and fear of reprisal. |
So, we're going with cowardice and laziness then?
Who'd have thought that of the Met? | |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 00:09 - Jun 20 with 2384 views | redrickstuhaart |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:59 - Jun 19 by BlueBadger |
So, we're going with cowardice and laziness then?
Who'd have thought that of the Met? |
The Met are made up of a cross section of society.
Most people do the same stuff. I dont think its cowardice or laziness. Its how the human brain works and justifies things. | | | |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 01:02 - Jun 20 with 2347 views | bournemouthblue |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:44 - Jun 19 by Ryorry |
Can't think - they were in the Met, therefore must have been the elite of the UK's police forces - the most intelligent, honest & beyond reproach of Her Maj's finest ... |
The diplomatic protection team, are a strange element of the police, they are more like security rather than regular police
Their main focus would be security rather lockdown breaches? |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 06:27 - Jun 20 with 2214 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:57 - Jun 19 by redrickstuhaart |
I think they were human and subconsciously conscious of social and political heriarchy.
One normalises things that one's "superiors" seem to think are normal.
I see nothing more sinister than human nature and fear of reprisal. |
They're just Plebs after all, aren't they? |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 06:46 - Jun 20 with 2178 views | Ryorry |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:57 - Jun 19 by redrickstuhaart |
I think they were human and subconsciously conscious of social and political heriarchy.
One normalises things that one's "superiors" seem to think are normal.
I see nothing more sinister than human nature and fear of reprisal. |
So you don’t expect police officers to be able to think for themselves then. Marvellous. | |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 07:03 - Jun 20 with 2152 views | Churchman |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 01:02 - Jun 20 by bournemouthblue |
The diplomatic protection team, are a strange element of the police, they are more like security rather than regular police
Their main focus would be security rather lockdown breaches? |
I suspect that’s the reason. The PM and co on the lash - are a couple of PCs really going to break it up? I can imagine them reporting it to superiors and then what?
I know what ought to to have happened but the Prime Minister and senior people put the police in a difficult position. Johnson and co all people should have done precisely the opposite. But they are above the law. The police are just servants; plebs like the rest of us and those born to rule can do as they please.
I worked with people a few years ago who’d worked in no 10 and 11 including one who’d had a lot of involvement in the security stuff. They were very close mouthed about it despite our probing. It appeared to be a little world within a world.
But aside from the obvious need to set an example, nobody should be above the law. Those who break it should be held accountable. There are no excuses. [Post edited 20 Jun 2023 7:43]
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:06 - Jun 20 with 2022 views | Keno |
They were only obeying the orders of fuhrer Boris |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:15 - Jun 20 with 2006 views | redrickstuhaart |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 06:46 - Jun 20 by Ryorry |
So you don’t expect police officers to be able to think for themselves then. Marvellous. |
Not what I said.
Its human nature and it happens everywhere. | | | |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:28 - Jun 20 with 1991 views | Guthrum |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 23:57 - Jun 19 by redrickstuhaart |
I think they were human and subconsciously conscious of social and political heriarchy.
One normalises things that one's "superiors" seem to think are normal.
I see nothing more sinister than human nature and fear of reprisal. |
Plus their job is guarding the outside of the premises from people getting in, not investigating what's going on in some of the rooms (whether it should have been is another matter).
Not to mention that any report of suspicious activity would have to survive being passed up the chain of command (whose ultimate boss is Johnson's mate, the then Home Secratary). |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 09:26 - Jun 20 with 1917 views | Fixed_It |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:28 - Jun 20 by Guthrum |
Plus their job is guarding the outside of the premises from people getting in, not investigating what's going on in some of the rooms (whether it should have been is another matter).
Not to mention that any report of suspicious activity would have to survive being passed up the chain of command (whose ultimate boss is Johnson's mate, the then Home Secratary). |
Hang on. People are using this as another stick to beat the police with. Don't spoil their fun by being sensible! |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 09:28 - Jun 20 with 1911 views | Ryorry |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:15 - Jun 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Not what I said.
Its human nature and it happens everywhere. |
That's a very naive view imho.
This is the Met 2020 we're talking about, not Dixon of Dock Green. | |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 09:30 - Jun 20 with 1905 views | Ryorry |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:28 - Jun 20 by Guthrum |
Plus their job is guarding the outside of the premises from people getting in, not investigating what's going on in some of the rooms (whether it should have been is another matter).
Not to mention that any report of suspicious activity would have to survive being passed up the chain of command (whose ultimate boss is Johnson's mate, the then Home Secratary). |
Probably more like it (Churchman's post too). | |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 09:33 - Jun 20 with 1894 views | WeWereZombies |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:15 - Jun 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Not what I said.
Its human nature and it happens everywhere. |
I am afraid I find your contributions to this thread rather weakened by an obvious relativism. A slippery slope that leads to, say, a sitting Prime Minister shagging another party member on the steps of Number Ten as a policeman looks on muttering 'Parliamentary privilege'. When you take on a vocation, whether it be policing or nursing or teaching, you are obliged to understand that there are standards you are required to uphold and, I am afraid, 'it's just human nature' will not protect you in a court of law. Or even in Parliament, as Mr. Johnson is now finding out. |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 12:04 - Jun 20 with 1821 views | BlueBadger |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 08:28 - Jun 20 by Guthrum |
Plus their job is guarding the outside of the premises from people getting in, not investigating what's going on in some of the rooms (whether it should have been is another matter).
Not to mention that any report of suspicious activity would have to survive being passed up the chain of command (whose ultimate boss is Johnson's mate, the then Home Secratary). |
So.....stopping people from going in? | |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 12:30 - Jun 20 with 1765 views | hype313 |
Given the way the Met has been over the years, wouldn't surprise me if the old bill were there dishing out the shots of Tequila and taking turns on the decks. [Post edited 20 Jun 2023 12:31]
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 12:48 - Jun 20 with 1719 views | MattinLondon |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 12:04 - Jun 20 by BlueBadger |
So.....stopping people from going in? |
Why would they have stopped people going into their place of work? They had their passes and there’s a good chance that they recognised who was going in. Why would they have stopped them? |  | | |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 12:50 - Jun 20 with 1712 views | baxterbasics |
Yeah like Guthrum said, the police are there with a very specific focus on security, they probably did not feel inclined to start worrying about parties and lockdown rules. Even if any did have a concern, it wouldn't be far fetched to imagine that making a noise about it could just see the officer promptly reassigned somewhere less interesting/prestigious as their reward.
If I were 'the government' I would just enact a retrospective and universal pardon for all fines and prosecutions related to lockdown breaches. Problem solved. |  |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 13:06 - Jun 20 with 1675 views | MattinLondon |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 12:50 - Jun 20 by baxterbasics |
Yeah like Guthrum said, the police are there with a very specific focus on security, they probably did not feel inclined to start worrying about parties and lockdown rules. Even if any did have a concern, it wouldn't be far fetched to imagine that making a noise about it could just see the officer promptly reassigned somewhere less interesting/prestigious as their reward.
If I were 'the government' I would just enact a retrospective and universal pardon for all fines and prosecutions related to lockdown breaches. Problem solved. |
Why should people be pardoned for being selfish pricks? Most people obeyed the rules and in some cases, at real personal costs to them - not attending funerals, not being there where a relative was dying.
People who held parties, didn’t follow the rules are in most cases just selfish not deserving of any form of pardon. | | | |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 13:10 - Jun 20 with 1667 views | baxterbasics |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 13:06 - Jun 20 by MattinLondon |
Why should people be pardoned for being selfish pricks? Most people obeyed the rules and in some cases, at real personal costs to them - not attending funerals, not being there where a relative was dying.
People who held parties, didn’t follow the rules are in most cases just selfish not deserving of any form of pardon. |
Well I say it as someone opposed to mandated lockdowns from (almost) day one. They were a mistake in my opinion. Those in power set rules they knew were a nonsense and were not prepared to stick by themselves, so it should all be declared null and void.
But I'm sure nobody wants to replay that same arguments yet again. | |
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 15:16 - Jun 20 with 1566 views | BlueBadger |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 13:10 - Jun 20 by baxterbasics |
Well I say it as someone opposed to mandated lockdowns from (almost) day one. They were a mistake in my opinion. Those in power set rules they knew were a nonsense and were not prepared to stick by themselves, so it should all be declared null and void.
But I'm sure nobody wants to replay that same arguments yet again. |
I'm not sure that 'none of it should count because Boris is a fat, hypocritical crook' is the defence you think it is. [Post edited 20 Jun 2023 15:17]
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| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 16:03 - Jun 20 with 1531 views | HARRY10 |
| One thing that REALLY bothers me about the endless Boris and Rishi... on 13:10 - Jun 20 by baxterbasics |
Well I say it as someone opposed to mandated lockdowns from (almost) day one. They were a mistake in my opinion. Those in power set rules they knew were a nonsense and were not prepared to stick by themselves, so it should all be declared null and void.
But I'm sure nobody wants to replay that same arguments yet again. |
Yes, far better to have the hospitals swamped with COVID patients. The idea that you should try to regulate the flow of patients was one of the reasons the UK did not top the list of most deaths per thousand.
Another case of the UK now falling far behind our European neighbours.
A few scumbags do not amount to 'those in power' either - and lord alone knows who or what should be 'declared null and void' as you state.
You are not Fartrages scriptwriter by any chance, are you ? | | | |
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