| England 21:41 - Nov 17 with 7125 views | Deano69 |
I am sure there was a time when it was exciting watching England.
Just dull and has been for a while.
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| England on 21:48 - Nov 17 with 5399 views | ellaandred |
They were very good in 1966.
With some genuine world class players. |  | | |
| England on 22:09 - Nov 17 with 5336 views | ford6600 |
Need a new manager
Freshen the squad
Get rid of dead wood
But FA and Southgate will prob sleepwalk
to defeat and waste another tournament.. |  | | |
| England on 23:50 - Nov 17 with 5219 views | orfordbuoy |
the players are available.
World Cup semis, England was very unlucky and played very well - perhaps not cool to recognise that. |  | | |
| England on 00:59 - Nov 18 with 5148 views | BlueBadger |
| England on 22:09 - Nov 17 by ford6600 |
Need a new manager
Freshen the squad
Get rid of dead wood
But FA and Southgate will prob sleepwalk
to defeat and waste another tournament.. |
God, imagine sleepwalking to another semi at least.
Get Big Sam in now. |  |
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| England on 02:32 - Nov 18 with 5099 views | hoppy |
| England on 00:59 - Nov 18 by BlueBadger |
God, imagine sleepwalking to another semi at least.
Get Big Sam in now. |
Who hasn’t ever been sleepwalking with a semi? |  |
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| England on 07:54 - Nov 18 with 4970 views | Mercian |
| England on 21:48 - Nov 17 by ellaandred |
They were very good in 1966.
With some genuine world class players. |
IMO they had 4 world class players, one who did not play in the final. Banks, B Charlton, Moore and Greaves. |  | | |
| England on 07:57 - Nov 18 with 4960 views | jayessess |
I don't think there was ever a point where it was exciting to watch England play a dead rubber qualifying match against the 171st best national team. |  |
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| England on 08:21 - Nov 18 with 4923 views | _clive_baker_ |
Not sure watching a much changed England side against Malta, in a group we’ve already qualified from, had many of the hallmarks of a likely classic. |  | | |
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| England on 09:14 - Nov 18 with 4839 views | solemio |
| England on 07:54 - Nov 18 by Mercian |
IMO they had 4 world class players, one who did not play in the final. Banks, B Charlton, Moore and Greaves. |
Please add Ray Wilson to this list. He really was that good. | | | |
| England on 09:14 - Nov 18 with 4841 views | CaptainAhab |
Didn't see last night's game but gotta disagree about England being dull. Did you not see us spank Italy a couple of months back? Looked like ITFC in full flow at times. | | | |
| England on 10:39 - Nov 18 with 4735 views | ellaandred |
| England on 07:54 - Nov 18 by Mercian |
IMO they had 4 world class players, one who did not play in the final. Banks, B Charlton, Moore and Greaves. |
That's my opinion as well. | | | |
| England on 11:42 - Nov 18 with 4675 views | Mercian |
| England on 09:14 - Nov 18 by solemio |
Please add Ray Wilson to this list. He really was that good. |
There is an argument for Nobby as well but I don't think him and the rest were quite at that level. A world class FB would be at Cafu or Roberto Carlos level and a world class DM would be at Beckenbauers. [Post edited 18 Nov 2023 11:47]
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| England on 11:43 - Nov 18 with 4664 views | ElephantintheRoom |
You have to go back a very long time to find competitive World Cup qualifying games. In 1974 there was a very good game against Poland. People didn’t like that either. | |
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| England on 11:45 - Nov 18 with 4656 views | Mercian |
| England on 11:43 - Nov 18 by ElephantintheRoom |
You have to go back a very long time to find competitive World Cup qualifying games. In 1974 there was a very good game against Poland. People didn’t like that either. |
Greece in 2001. Italy in 1998. [Post edited 18 Nov 2023 11:46]
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| England on 11:47 - Nov 18 with 4648 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| England on 02:32 - Nov 18 by hoppy |
Who hasn’t ever been sleepwalking with a semi? |
I doubt I've got the stamina to make it past a group stage, these days...
I could only dream of a Final Messi happy ending- not sure I could put in a performance with a billion people watching. | | | |
| England on 11:49 - Nov 18 with 4642 views | Mercian |
| England on 21:48 - Nov 17 by ellaandred |
They were very good in 1966.
With some genuine world class players. |
Who's world class now? IMO Kane without a doubt. Bellingham on the verge of if not already. Saka has the potential to be but not at the moment. | | | |
| England on 13:39 - Nov 18 with 4533 views | jayessess |
| England on 11:49 - Nov 18 by Mercian |
Who's world class now? IMO Kane without a doubt. Bellingham on the verge of if not already. Saka has the potential to be but not at the moment. |
World class in comparison to whom? Quite a lot of them could pretty plausibly claim to be top three in the world in their position, not least because a fair few of them consistently start for the best club side in the world (Kyle Walker, John Stones, Phil Foden). | |
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| England on 13:49 - Nov 18 with 4508 views | blueislander |
| England on 11:42 - Nov 18 by Mercian |
There is an argument for Nobby as well but I don't think him and the rest were quite at that level. A world class FB would be at Cafu or Roberto Carlos level and a world class DM would be at Beckenbauers. [Post edited 18 Nov 2023 11:47]
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Er! Beckenbauer was never a midfielder. He was a sweeper with license to move forward. | | | |
| England on 13:50 - Nov 18 with 4504 views | blueislander |
Has Frimmer’s account been hacked? [Post edited 18 Nov 2023 14:02]
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| England on 14:00 - Nov 18 with 4475 views | _clive_baker_ |
| England on 11:49 - Nov 18 by Mercian |
Who's world class now? IMO Kane without a doubt. Bellingham on the verge of if not already. Saka has the potential to be but not at the moment. |
Not sure why Bellingham isn’t there already. He’s a permanent fixture in the Real team and current top scorer in La Liga with 10 in 11. He’s outrageously good, and I think if you picked a 23 man World Cup squad from all the nations then Kane & Bellingham are both in it. I can’t think of many better in the world than them right now.
Beyond those we’ve got some very good players in Rice, Foden, Stones, Walker, Saka. They would get in most squads. We’re ranked 4th in the world for a reason and I don’t think too many could argue with it given our last 2 world cups were a semi and a quarters (losing narrowly to France). Had we beaten France I think we would’ve also beaten Morocco in a semi. Most recent Euros was a final which we lost on penalties to Italy. Don’t really get the hate, we’re as good now as we’ve been in my lifetime. | | | |
| England on 14:53 - Nov 18 with 4400 views | Dubtractor |
I think the issue is that we've made qualifying look really easy in recent years - so there is almost no jeopardy to the games at all. We tend not to even need to bust a gut in the process either, so the games are at a low tempo.
Our tournament football is much better to watch though.
As a result I rarely watch qualifiers, but find myself glued to the tournaments. [Post edited 18 Nov 2023 14:56]
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| England on 14:54 - Nov 18 with 4396 views | GeoffSentence |
There's no jeopardy in qualifyiing games any more. There are so many places available in the Euros and World Cup that all the bigger nations are bound to qualify except where there is a monumental cock up.
When I was a lad England always seemed to be locked into a struggle with Italy from which only one side could emerge as a qualifier. And England always seemed to be thwarted by sub-par performances against Luxembourg.
Anyway, not only was there something rare and important riding on the qualification games, but there was a genuine risk of failure. That made them tense and exciting. Now it's just a parade of beating weak opposition and doing enough against the other decent team to finish in the top two.
It's too easy. |  |
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| England on 16:16 - Nov 18 with 4334 views | chicoazul |
The current England are rubbish/boring Southgate out narrative is completely deranged. |  |
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| England on 16:28 - Nov 18 with 4310 views | orfordbuoy |
| England on 16:16 - Nov 18 by chicoazul |
The current England are rubbish/boring Southgate out narrative is completely deranged. |
Quite brilliant at times in the World Cup semi-final and a Kane missed pen was England's undoing. Up in the Euro finals and narrowly missing out. Yeah, but apart from that - rubbish.
Football is not your thing I see. | | | |
| England on 16:35 - Nov 18 with 4293 views | chicoazul |
| England on 16:28 - Nov 18 by orfordbuoy |
Quite brilliant at times in the World Cup semi-final and a Kane missed pen was England's undoing. Up in the Euro finals and narrowly missing out. Yeah, but apart from that - rubbish.
Football is not your thing I see. |
You’re confused
Take your time, read it again | |
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