| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? 10:32 - Nov 26 with 7426 views | unstableblue |
Ridiculous response on this board a while ago when some suggested his form had become patchy, which got shot down
In his last 2 or 3 displays it’s gone from patchy to poor
He remains one of our best players, and I kinda get why you continue to start him, but that’s coming into question now.
Love the player, and for Wales he’s playing well and looking more expensive that Spurs Johnson.
But it ain’t working for Town of late.
As stated it’s a lot to do with being very heavily marked, as the opposition know you can’t give him space.
What do we do?
No one came out of last night well, and it’s about how we bounce back on Weds. We came up against a high quality, physical squad, and a very good manager who had McKenna’s number. An early goal and then lacklustre energy and drive if all players meant we were overrun. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:36 - Nov 26 with 4588 views | SomethingBlue |
No, we all need to be careful and responsible with words. People seem to think there is nothing between "great" and "poor" nowadays, which doesn't serve anyone well. He's been quieter in the last few and was definitely off it last night. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:39 - Nov 26 with 4572 views | StokieBlue |
One of the major problems with some posters on here is the complete disregard for context.
With the context at the point you said it the comment was ridiculous. He was our top scorer and had an assist even though he had played less games than Chaplin.
The context now is that he's performed much worse than that over the last few games. He wasn't patchy before as the stats show and he's not playing well at the moment.
Context is absolutely key and these type of posts which ignore context just look like petty attempts at point-scoring.
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:43 - Nov 26 with 4515 views | SomethingBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:39 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
One of the major problems with some posters on here is the complete disregard for context.
With the context at the point you said it the comment was ridiculous. He was our top scorer and had an assist even though he had played less games than Chaplin.
The context now is that he's performed much worse than that over the last few games. He wasn't patchy before as the stats show and he's not playing well at the moment.
Context is absolutely key and these type of posts which ignore context just look like petty attempts at point-scoring.
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"Poor" has become the new "average at best" and it's getting tiresome. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:44 - Nov 26 with 4513 views | Keno |
Maybe is he just a little fatigued after the Wales games/training etc |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:45 - Nov 26 with 4499 views | Whos_blue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:43 - Nov 26 by SomethingBlue |
"Poor" has become the new "average at best" and it's getting tiresome. |
This. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:52 - Nov 26 with 4447 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:39 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
One of the major problems with some posters on here is the complete disregard for context.
With the context at the point you said it the comment was ridiculous. He was our top scorer and had an assist even though he had played less games than Chaplin.
The context now is that he's performed much worse than that over the last few games. He wasn't patchy before as the stats show and he's not playing well at the moment.
Context is absolutely key and these type of posts which ignore context just look like petty attempts at point-scoring.
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context
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noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
Just to help on what context means.
Over 3 or 4 games the circumstance was that Broadhead would be quite ineffective for periods of a game, poor control, not winning 50/50s, wrong choices. And then he would do something positive. Hence the use of the word ‘patchy’ for his form.
Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance. Hence the use of the word ‘poor’.
Critically last night we played a very well set-up, fired up and high quality West Brom side, no Town player had a particularly good game. So Broadheads poor display can be based in that context! But last night’s display is set in the context of a series of poor displays when peers have performed well.
These are the circumstances from which I am forming an opinion.
To just restate Broadhead is one of my favourite players and probably one of, if not, our best player. I’d probably still start him Weds. but this is a football forum. And to dismiss the fact his form is not good, is ridiculous. Whatever word you want to use. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 10:55]
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:56 - Nov 26 with 4385 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:52 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
context
/ˈkɒntɛkst/
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
Just to help on what context means.
Over 3 or 4 games the circumstance was that Broadhead would be quite ineffective for periods of a game, poor control, not winning 50/50s, wrong choices. And then he would do something positive. Hence the use of the word ‘patchy’ for his form.
Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance. Hence the use of the word ‘poor’.
Critically last night we played a very well set-up, fired up and high quality West Brom side, no Town player had a particularly good game. So Broadheads poor display can be based in that context! But last night’s display is set in the context of a series of poor displays when peers have performed well.
These are the circumstances from which I am forming an opinion.
To just restate Broadhead is one of my favourite players and probably one of, if not, our best player. I’d probably still start him Weds. but this is a football forum. And to dismiss the fact his form is not good, is ridiculous. Whatever word you want to use. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 10:55]
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Problem is he scored some goals a little while ago so he has about 6 months credit before people will allow him to be seen as having a poor game. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:57 - Nov 26 with 4372 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:36 - Nov 26 by SomethingBlue |
No, we all need to be careful and responsible with words. People seem to think there is nothing between "great" and "poor" nowadays, which doesn't serve anyone well. He's been quieter in the last few and was definitely off it last night. |
What word would you use for his last 4 displays for Town?
He’s one of our key players. When he adds no value during his whole display? What word would you use?
I would add that from all accounts his display for Wales was ‘strong’ | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:58 - Nov 26 with 4362 views | Herbivore |
None of our attacking players are going to be putting in 8/10 performances every week, same goes for every attacking player in this league to be honest. It's the nature of the beast, some games it won't fall for you or the opposition will successfully set up to stifle you. It happens. The need to single out players and overreact after a couple of below par performances is a bit much, imo. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:59 - Nov 26 with 4354 views | SomethingBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:52 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
context
/ˈkɒntɛkst/
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
Just to help on what context means.
Over 3 or 4 games the circumstance was that Broadhead would be quite ineffective for periods of a game, poor control, not winning 50/50s, wrong choices. And then he would do something positive. Hence the use of the word ‘patchy’ for his form.
Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance. Hence the use of the word ‘poor’.
Critically last night we played a very well set-up, fired up and high quality West Brom side, no Town player had a particularly good game. So Broadheads poor display can be based in that context! But last night’s display is set in the context of a series of poor displays when peers have performed well.
These are the circumstances from which I am forming an opinion.
To just restate Broadhead is one of my favourite players and probably one of, if not, our best player. I’d probably still start him Weds. but this is a football forum. And to dismiss the fact his form is not good, is ridiculous. Whatever word you want to use. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 10:55]
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"Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance."
So there was no redeeming feature to his performance against Swansea, when he was part of an attack that completely dominated most of the game? Not a single one? He was decent enough, without sparkling, from where I was sitting. I do think we need to be careful. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:00 - Nov 26 with 4356 views | StokieBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:52 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
context
/ˈkɒntɛkst/
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
Just to help on what context means.
Over 3 or 4 games the circumstance was that Broadhead would be quite ineffective for periods of a game, poor control, not winning 50/50s, wrong choices. And then he would do something positive. Hence the use of the word ‘patchy’ for his form.
Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance. Hence the use of the word ‘poor’.
Critically last night we played a very well set-up, fired up and high quality West Brom side, no Town player had a particularly good game. So Broadheads poor display can be based in that context! But last night’s display is set in the context of a series of poor displays when peers have performed well.
These are the circumstances from which I am forming an opinion.
To just restate Broadhead is one of my favourite players and probably one of, if not, our best player. I’d probably still start him Weds. but this is a football forum. And to dismiss the fact his form is not good, is ridiculous. Whatever word you want to use. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 10:55]
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Why have you posted a definition of context which agrees with my post?
It was a silly post at the time as numerous posters pointed out. Better to just own that than continually dig a bigger hole.
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:02 - Nov 26 with 4320 views | Herbivore |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:59 - Nov 26 by SomethingBlue |
"Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance."
So there was no redeeming feature to his performance against Swansea, when he was part of an attack that completely dominated most of the game? Not a single one? He was decent enough, without sparkling, from where I was sitting. I do think we need to be careful. |
Indeed, Swansea game he played well. Not at his electric best but to describe him as poor or contributing nothing is ridiculous. Think he missed the Rotherham game before that? Brum game he had a good chance that he might have done better with but harsh to say he offered nothing. We do have some drama queens amongst our fan base and it's really unhelpful. I dread to think how quickly things might turn very negative if we have a genuinely poor run of form. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:03 - Nov 26 with 4311 views | StokieBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:56 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
Problem is he scored some goals a little while ago so he has about 6 months credit before people will allow him to be seen as having a poor game. |
Context is definitely something you don't understand.
Along with nuance, statistical analysis and reasoned debate.
There you go, you've drawn me in again so you've achieved the main aim of your posting which is to annoy other fans.
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:05 - Nov 26 with 4292 views | BlueBadger |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:52 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
context
/ˈkɒntɛkst/
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
Just to help on what context means.
Over 3 or 4 games the circumstance was that Broadhead would be quite ineffective for periods of a game, poor control, not winning 50/50s, wrong choices. And then he would do something positive. Hence the use of the word ‘patchy’ for his form.
Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance. Hence the use of the word ‘poor’.
Critically last night we played a very well set-up, fired up and high quality West Brom side, no Town player had a particularly good game. So Broadheads poor display can be based in that context! But last night’s display is set in the context of a series of poor displays when peers have performed well.
These are the circumstances from which I am forming an opinion.
To just restate Broadhead is one of my favourite players and probably one of, if not, our best player. I’d probably still start him Weds. but this is a football forum. And to dismiss the fact his form is not good, is ridiculous. Whatever word you want to use. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 10:55]
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You had your own niche as 'bloke who love the term Technical Football to everything played by managers who aren't Mick'. I don't think you need to be yet another Frimmers tribute act lad, |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:06 - Nov 26 with 4282 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:59 - Nov 26 by SomethingBlue |
"Last night and in his last 2 performances he has done nothing of merit in his entire performance."
So there was no redeeming feature to his performance against Swansea, when he was part of an attack that completely dominated most of the game? Not a single one? He was decent enough, without sparkling, from where I was sitting. I do think we need to be careful. |
Goal or assist = good.
No goal or assist = poor.
For what it is worth, he clearly isn't in his best form at the moment, but he's a long way from poor. He looks like he will benefit from no international break for 4 months now and a chance to have a rest. Wouldn't surprise me if Harness started on Wednesday. Broadhead is still our real matchwinner and we need him fully back to his best. | | | |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:09 - Nov 26 with 4239 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:03 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
Context is definitely something you don't understand.
Along with nuance, statistical analysis and reasoned debate.
There you go, you've drawn me in again so you've achieved the main aim of your posting which is to annoy other fans.
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What analysis have you shared other than he scored a few therefore the OP is wrong that he's not been poor recently.
You did the same with Burns this season and hid behind his goal scoring figures of a league 1 season as your defence on why he's so fantastic despite achieving naff all of note this season.
The OP is correct. Broady hasn't been as good
However 100% it could all be about opponents and their marking. So it's upto him to do better. If he can't then he will get replaced. But that doesn't mean people should just accept his minimal inputs just because he had a good game a little while ago. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:09 - Nov 26 with 4257 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:00 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
Why have you posted a definition of context which agrees with my post?
It was a silly post at the time as numerous posters pointed out. Better to just own that than continually dig a bigger hole.
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Not digging a hole
Just pointing out your use of the word context and in my opinion (it’s a football forum by the way) and given the context of Broadhead’s recent displays I think his form is ‘poor’, that’s why I said it.
To close this exchange out - what word would you use to summarise Broadhead’s recent displays?
Against West Brom, Swansea, and Birmingham.
Just one word needed please??
Just to add some context in that series of games Scarlett has gone from poor substitute appearances to promising - in my opinion. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 11:36]
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:11 - Nov 26 with 4230 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:05 - Nov 26 by BlueBadger |
You had your own niche as 'bloke who love the term Technical Football to everything played by managers who aren't Mick'. I don't think you need to be yet another Frimmers tribute act lad, |
Ha ha… so you’re still suggesting technical isn’t a valid term and yet our own manager uses it ALL THE TIME
You’re just the board troll masquerading as a good bloke | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:17 - Nov 26 with 4200 views | tractorboy1978 |
Genuine question - have you ever taken steps to try and be less unstable? That word is probably an accurate summation of a few posters on here. | | | |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:19 - Nov 26 with 4186 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:58 - Nov 26 by Herbivore |
None of our attacking players are going to be putting in 8/10 performances every week, same goes for every attacking player in this league to be honest. It's the nature of the beast, some games it won't fall for you or the opposition will successfully set up to stifle you. It happens. The need to single out players and overreact after a couple of below par performances is a bit much, imo. |
I value your opinion Herbie
And I do feel this thread has been somewhat misinterpreted
I completely agree that none of our attacking players can be out 8/10 week on week out
And you could suggest that Chaplin for example has had some weak displays of late… yet he was on the few players he did some positive stuff last night
But over a period of time now Broadhead has not contributed - where in that time we’ve seen good form and goals/assists from Chaplin, Hirst, Harness, Scarlett, and Omari
Broadhead is a brilliant player his goal got us the 3 points at Ashton Gate only 6 games ago. But he was struggling last night, as he was against Plymouth and Brum. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:20 - Nov 26 with 4166 views | StokieBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:09 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
What analysis have you shared other than he scored a few therefore the OP is wrong that he's not been poor recently.
You did the same with Burns this season and hid behind his goal scoring figures of a league 1 season as your defence on why he's so fantastic despite achieving naff all of note this season.
The OP is correct. Broady hasn't been as good
However 100% it could all be about opponents and their marking. So it's upto him to do better. If he can't then he will get replaced. But that doesn't mean people should just accept his minimal inputs just because he had a good game a little while ago. |
You're ignored context again.
My point was clearly a general point rather than a specific point in this topic.
You've also been disingenuous with your comments around Burns and what I said. Also worth pointing out that last season you tried to provide statistical analysis that Burns was rubbish and that Davis couldn't cross. Unbelievable really.
You're either incredibly stupid or an expert troll. You've drawn me in again because I don't like your disingenuous and frequently lying posts but I am going to withdraw as I don't need you ruining my mood for the day.
It's sad that you feel the need to wind up other fans as you do. We should be united in how well we have done, not waiting for the first opportunity to moan and complain. I almost think you had some of your posts ready to go even before the match started in the hope that we didn't perform.
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:20 - Nov 26 with 4160 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:17 - Nov 26 by tractorboy1978 |
Genuine question - have you ever taken steps to try and be less unstable? That word is probably an accurate summation of a few posters on here. |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:23 - Nov 26 with 4141 views | Herbivore |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:19 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
I value your opinion Herbie
And I do feel this thread has been somewhat misinterpreted
I completely agree that none of our attacking players can be out 8/10 week on week out
And you could suggest that Chaplin for example has had some weak displays of late… yet he was on the few players he did some positive stuff last night
But over a period of time now Broadhead has not contributed - where in that time we’ve seen good form and goals/assists from Chaplin, Hirst, Harness, Scarlett, and Omari
Broadhead is a brilliant player his goal got us the 3 points at Ashton Gate only 6 games ago. But he was struggling last night, as he was against Plymouth and Brum. |
He's only played 4 times since scoring the winner against Brizzle. He played well against Swansea for the most part, average at Brum and against Plymouth, and poor last night in a collective poor performance from most of the team. I don't think it's time to start singling him out and saying he's in poor form. He's not been at his best but I wouldn't describe him as playing poorly either. That said I'd be tempted to rest him on Wednesday as he's played a lot of football for us and Wales and perhaps the break might help him. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:23 - Nov 26 with 4138 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:09 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
What analysis have you shared other than he scored a few therefore the OP is wrong that he's not been poor recently.
You did the same with Burns this season and hid behind his goal scoring figures of a league 1 season as your defence on why he's so fantastic despite achieving naff all of note this season.
The OP is correct. Broady hasn't been as good
However 100% it could all be about opponents and their marking. So it's upto him to do better. If he can't then he will get replaced. But that doesn't mean people should just accept his minimal inputs just because he had a good game a little while ago. |
The starting front four were below par, and for once the changes didn’t make sufficient difference.
It really wasn’t Boadhead’s form, or lack of it, Chaplin was anonymous. |  |
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