| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? 10:32 - Nov 26 with 7430 views | unstableblue |
Ridiculous response on this board a while ago when some suggested his form had become patchy, which got shot down
In his last 2 or 3 displays it’s gone from patchy to poor
He remains one of our best players, and I kinda get why you continue to start him, but that’s coming into question now.
Love the player, and for Wales he’s playing well and looking more expensive that Spurs Johnson.
But it ain’t working for Town of late.
As stated it’s a lot to do with being very heavily marked, as the opposition know you can’t give him space.
What do we do?
No one came out of last night well, and it’s about how we bounce back on Weds. We came up against a high quality, physical squad, and a very good manager who had McKenna’s number. An early goal and then lacklustre energy and drive if all players meant we were overrun. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:25 - Nov 26 with 1635 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:20 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
You're ignored context again.
My point was clearly a general point rather than a specific point in this topic.
You've also been disingenuous with your comments around Burns and what I said. Also worth pointing out that last season you tried to provide statistical analysis that Burns was rubbish and that Davis couldn't cross. Unbelievable really.
You're either incredibly stupid or an expert troll. You've drawn me in again because I don't like your disingenuous and frequently lying posts but I am going to withdraw as I don't need you ruining my mood for the day.
It's sad that you feel the need to wind up other fans as you do. We should be united in how well we have done, not waiting for the first opportunity to moan and complain. I almost think you had some of your posts ready to go even before the match started in the hope that we didn't perform.
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Davis still isn't that great at crossing in open play.
He's good at passing the ball along the ground however.
Which is pretty much all we need from him with so little players in the box.
Burns is still burns and wastes more chances and opportunities than anyone else on the pitch. He is handy when defending sometimes tho.
Have a good day SB. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:26 - Nov 26 with 1632 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 10:44 - Nov 26 by Keno |
Maybe is he just a little fatigued after the Wales games/training etc |
I think it’s a key factor
He’s been getting game time for Wales, and doing well.
Perhaps the break in internationals will help.
If people read my threads a key factor is that the opposition in the Championship target Broadhead. He’s very closely marked. So this is a big factor in his form.
But he has found way to work round that to score and proves assists.
I’m convinced Broadhead is only one game away from refinishing his form. And hopefully that starts Weds. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:27 - Nov 26 with 1623 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:23 - Nov 26 by Herbivore |
He's only played 4 times since scoring the winner against Brizzle. He played well against Swansea for the most part, average at Brum and against Plymouth, and poor last night in a collective poor performance from most of the team. I don't think it's time to start singling him out and saying he's in poor form. He's not been at his best but I wouldn't describe him as playing poorly either. That said I'd be tempted to rest him on Wednesday as he's played a lot of football for us and Wales and perhaps the break might help him. |
He was poor against Bristol tho. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:28 - Nov 26 with 1613 views | SomethingBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:27 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
He was poor against Bristol tho. |
Is this a whoosh? |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:33 - Nov 26 with 1596 views | StokieBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:25 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
Davis still isn't that great at crossing in open play.
He's good at passing the ball along the ground however.
Which is pretty much all we need from him with so little players in the box.
Burns is still burns and wastes more chances and opportunities than anyone else on the pitch. He is handy when defending sometimes tho.
Have a good day SB. |
"Davis still isn't that great at crossing in open play."
This is simply a lie. He's provided lots of crosses this year from open play which either should have been finished by the attackers or have resulted in a rebound where a goal was scored but he doesn't get credited with the assist.
You've succeeded in annoying me with your lies and disingenuous posts. Well done.
SB [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 11:41]
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:34 - Nov 26 with 1591 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:23 - Nov 26 by Herbivore |
He's only played 4 times since scoring the winner against Brizzle. He played well against Swansea for the most part, average at Brum and against Plymouth, and poor last night in a collective poor performance from most of the team. I don't think it's time to start singling him out and saying he's in poor form. He's not been at his best but I wouldn't describe him as playing poorly either. That said I'd be tempted to rest him on Wednesday as he's played a lot of football for us and Wales and perhaps the break might help him. |
It’s a forum of opinions Herbie. But despite the goal he wasn’t at his best at Ashton Gate. And he definitely wasn’t at his best against the Swans. Think we were watching a different game.
Indeed the TWTD hive mind gave him 6.1… and Taylor 8.2! Omari and Hirst 7.2.
But as I pointed out in another thread Broadhead is one of our best players, and he is being targeted and very well marked. Yes he’s in some poor form - can’t believe people are contesting this - but loose on the ball, not making things happen, not winning the 50/50s… but I’m convinced he’s one game from turning that around. And with the internationals out of the way, maybe we’ll see that Weds.
In some way he just needs the opposition to have an off day, and give him a little space | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:37 - Nov 26 with 1579 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:11 - Nov 26 by Herbivore |
The Rotherham game that he didn't even play in?
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Doh… I’ll get my coat
But come on Herbie - what single word would you use to describe Broadhead current form?? | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:39 - Nov 26 with 1574 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:02 - Nov 26 by Herbivore |
Indeed, Swansea game he played well. Not at his electric best but to describe him as poor or contributing nothing is ridiculous. Think he missed the Rotherham game before that? Brum game he had a good chance that he might have done better with but harsh to say he offered nothing. We do have some drama queens amongst our fan base and it's really unhelpful. I dread to think how quickly things might turn very negative if we have a genuinely poor run of form. |
He did not play well against Swansea
He just didn’t!
As pointed out the TWTD hive mind gave him a low score. Because he didn’t play well. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:40 - Nov 26 with 1574 views | SomethingBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:34 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
It’s a forum of opinions Herbie. But despite the goal he wasn’t at his best at Ashton Gate. And he definitely wasn’t at his best against the Swans. Think we were watching a different game.
Indeed the TWTD hive mind gave him 6.1… and Taylor 8.2! Omari and Hirst 7.2.
But as I pointed out in another thread Broadhead is one of our best players, and he is being targeted and very well marked. Yes he’s in some poor form - can’t believe people are contesting this - but loose on the ball, not making things happen, not winning the 50/50s… but I’m convinced he’s one game from turning that around. And with the internationals out of the way, maybe we’ll see that Weds.
In some way he just needs the opposition to have an off day, and give him a little space |
I think it's more that "wasn't at his best" doesn't have to equal "poor". There are many shades between the two. But it seems to be used that way increasingly. I get it, it's the social media illness that demands people present a "reaction". People veer wildly between poles and it's not that healthy. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:45 - Nov 26 with 1574 views | PhilTWTD |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:00 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
Why have you posted a definition of context which agrees with my post?
It was a silly post at the time as numerous posters pointed out. Better to just own that than continually dig a bigger hole.
SB |
Well, I agreed with it at the time. Broadhead was drifting in and out of games at that stage, but obviously very effective when involved. He had a spell where he was more consistent over the course of matches following that.
Not sure we can say he's in a poor run of form currently as he played well for Wales the other night. Think he just looked a little tired. |  | | |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:48 - Nov 26 with 1549 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:40 - Nov 26 by SomethingBlue |
I think it's more that "wasn't at his best" doesn't have to equal "poor". There are many shades between the two. But it seems to be used that way increasingly. I get it, it's the social media illness that demands people present a "reaction". People veer wildly between poles and it's not that healthy. |
I hear you Something
The lack of nuance and the ridiculous polarisation of opinions in the social media echo chambers is one of my main concerns - talk about it a lot
‘Not at his best’ is definitely the way to describe Broadhead around the Ashton Gate display
But now we are definitely at a word near poor… I’ll use ineffective going forward | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:49 - Nov 26 with 1551 views | StokieBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:45 - Nov 26 by PhilTWTD |
Well, I agreed with it at the time. Broadhead was drifting in and out of games at that stage, but obviously very effective when involved. He had a spell where he was more consistent over the course of matches following that.
Not sure we can say he's in a poor run of form currently as he played well for Wales the other night. Think he just looked a little tired. |
Indeed you did and I still don't agree.
By that definition nearly all attacking players are "patchy". Chaplin has been like that over the last few matches but nobody has described him as patchy. Any replacement we play instead of Broadhead is also likely to be in and out of the game.
The point of players like that is to make the difference in the moments when they are involved and Broadhead was doing that at the time of the patchy comment.
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:59 - Nov 26 with 1538 views | homer_123 |
Is he?
Is he is simply not hitting the heights and standards that he set early doors.
Maybe we all need to step back and accept that we've been nothing short of exceptional and what we are seeing now both individually and from the team is the natural levelling off.
We were never, ever, going to maintain the kind of football, results and individual performances.
So, I think we need to consider the fact that we are judging things again a quite remarkable period. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:02 - Nov 26 with 1534 views | stonojnr |
fwiw considering the rest of team performances, I think he did alright, was trying his best, the effort was there and there were worse performers on the pitch, I think opposition teams are marking him more, which usually leaves space for the others, but just wasnt happening for him last night.
we had players on the pitch last night for 2/3rds of the game who Sky stats said touched the ball only 13 times. Broadhead wasnt one of those. | | | |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:07 - Nov 26 with 1527 views | Illinoisblue |
This is football. It’s impossible to “all agree”. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:08 - Nov 26 with 1532 views | OldFart71 |
I think we are all aware that although we have done extremely well this season there are too many fringe players and if a few of our first 11 are off their game we have little to come in. We prided ourselves last season on being able to bring on several players who would either produce a victory or pull us back from a defeat. Players such as Jackson, Ladapo,Ball and Aluko probably need replacing. So really we have no backup to cover the class of players like Hirst, Broadhead, Chaplin and Morsy if injured or suspended. Also due to our inability to stop conceeding early goals we need tightening at the back. As was proved yesterday you can't always rely on scoring three goals to win games. I hope this isn't seen as negativity. It is constructive critisism. | | | |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:15 - Nov 26 with 1522 views | SomethingBlue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:08 - Nov 26 by OldFart71 |
I think we are all aware that although we have done extremely well this season there are too many fringe players and if a few of our first 11 are off their game we have little to come in. We prided ourselves last season on being able to bring on several players who would either produce a victory or pull us back from a defeat. Players such as Jackson, Ladapo,Ball and Aluko probably need replacing. So really we have no backup to cover the class of players like Hirst, Broadhead, Chaplin and Morsy if injured or suspended. Also due to our inability to stop conceeding early goals we need tightening at the back. As was proved yesterday you can't always rely on scoring three goals to win games. I hope this isn't seen as negativity. It is constructive critisism. |
Think all of your post is fair. Concede early against a team as tight and controlled as West Brom and your chances nosedive immediately; not many will smother us like they did but we were never going to get away with these slow starts forever.
You're right about the fringe players too. They've all done us proud at different points, this season most definitely included, but the test we have set ourselves now is "how do we shift the dial when a really top team for the level is getting the better of us?". Last night we had no available answer and I expect it's a priority for January and next summer. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:16 - Nov 26 with 1515 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:45 - Nov 26 by PhilTWTD |
Well, I agreed with it at the time. Broadhead was drifting in and out of games at that stage, but obviously very effective when involved. He had a spell where he was more consistent over the course of matches following that.
Not sure we can say he's in a poor run of form currently as he played well for Wales the other night. Think he just looked a little tired. |
Phil - I don’t think you can include Wales performances in the debate
It’s clear he was one of the better players for Wales in the recent internationals, with many stating he was looking superior to Spurs recent big money purchase - but we’re talking about his Town contribution
But I do find this whole thread a bit surreal
Broadhead’s form was 100% patchy
If we want to used ‘tired’ or how about ‘ineffective’ then that’s fine
But the bottom line, without doubt is that this is run of form that is a bit concerning
In that time many attacking players have been a bit fluky, but Broadhead has been off his best consistently
People were suggesting he was good against the Swans, he just wasn’t
For balance and as stated Broadhead is probably our best player, for that reason he tends to get very heavily marked. I’m convinced he’s one game away from refinding form, hopefully Weds night, and it might just take an opposition team having an off day against him for get him going. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:22 - Nov 26 with 1505 views | unstableblue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:07 - Nov 26 by Illinoisblue |
This is football. It’s impossible to “all agree”. |
I think this thread really proves that | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 13:08 - Nov 26 with 1490 views | PhilTWTD |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:49 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue |
Indeed you did and I still don't agree.
By that definition nearly all attacking players are "patchy". Chaplin has been like that over the last few matches but nobody has described him as patchy. Any replacement we play instead of Broadhead is also likely to be in and out of the game.
The point of players like that is to make the difference in the moments when they are involved and Broadhead was doing that at the time of the patchy comment.
SB |
I'm not sure I agree with that, Harness came in for Broadhead for a game and was more involved over the 90 minutes, albeit playing a slightly different type of role.
Having said that, I take your point about attacking players being more likely to be in and out. And similar comments have been made about Chaplin in recent games, haven't they? The number 10s are key to how we play and if they're not involved so much, as was the case last night, we don't present as much of a threat. | | | |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 13:40 - Nov 26 with 1435 views | Herbivore |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:39 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
He did not play well against Swansea
He just didn’t!
As pointed out the TWTD hive mind gave him a low score. Because he didn’t play well. |
The TWTD player ratings are worthless, mate. |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 13:57 - Nov 26 with 1429 views | NeedhamChris |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 11:11 - Nov 26 by unstableblue |
Ha ha… so you’re still suggesting technical isn’t a valid term and yet our own manager uses it ALL THE TIME
You’re just the board troll masquerading as a good bloke |
Surprised how little that last sentence is mentioned on here - but yep, 100%. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 17:12 - Nov 26 with 1363 views | NeedhamChris |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 13:40 - Nov 26 by Herbivore |
The TWTD player ratings are worthless, mate. |
They appear to only be worthless if you don't agree with them. | |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 17:14 - Nov 26 with 1356 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 12:07 - Nov 26 by Illinoisblue |
This is football. It’s impossible to “all agree”. |
Oh no it isn’t |  |
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| Can we all now agree that Broadhead is in a poor run of form? on 17:21 - Nov 26 with 1334 views | MK1 |
No. He has been absolutely brilliant since signing. Training and playing for his country and club has made him a little tired. No need to worry. If he has a blinder on Wednesday posts like these will look a little silly. |  |
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