| Starmer clipped here is very telling 16:58 - Aug 4 with 4659 views | Mullet |
This is a massive test for his fledging government, it sounds like he will happily go after these people and the ones stirring it up online too. I wonder what timescale and powers that will require. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:02 - Aug 4 with 3873 views | Zx1988 |
Sounds like charges incoming against SYL. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:14 - Aug 4 with 3747 views | gtsb1966 |
Hasn't this been coming for ages though. We could all see it. Both labour and the conservatives have admitted immigration in this country is out of control and the pictures of boat loads of men crossing the channel has just added fuel to the fire. Having said that violence has no place in society and the people carrying out these attacks are scum. |  | | |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:18 - Aug 4 with 3659 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:02 - Aug 4 by Zx1988 |
Sounds like charges incoming against SYL. |
Does that work when he lives in Spain? If it doesn't, won't it then play to their victim mentality? BBC interviewed a woman complaining that no one stands up for the rights of white middle class people. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:19 - Aug 4 with 3643 views | Mullet |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:14 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Hasn't this been coming for ages though. We could all see it. Both labour and the conservatives have admitted immigration in this country is out of control and the pictures of boat loads of men crossing the channel has just added fuel to the fire. Having said that violence has no place in society and the people carrying out these attacks are scum. |
This was meant to be about mourning a tragic murder and stabbing of children. The only reason to see today and say this has “been coming” is the likes of GBnews, Farage and the Mail et al. pushing this agenda for so long. | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:20 - Aug 4 with 3638 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The important thing is that the Government acts reasonably and after due consideration rather than an inflammatory knee-jerk reaction. | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:22 - Aug 4 with 3578 views | NeedhamChris |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:14 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Hasn't this been coming for ages though. We could all see it. Both labour and the conservatives have admitted immigration in this country is out of control and the pictures of boat loads of men crossing the channel has just added fuel to the fire. Having said that violence has no place in society and the people carrying out these attacks are scum. |
You're giving them too much credit. The thick cowards couldn't even muster their own protest, they've piggy backed the horrific murder of three young girls as an excuse to riot.
Stop trying to rationalise Nazi behaviour. They're utter scum and belong in prison. | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:32 - Aug 4 with 3422 views | BlueBadger |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:18 - Aug 4 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Does that work when he lives in Spain? If it doesn't, won't it then play to their victim mentality? BBC interviewed a woman complaining that no one stands up for the rights of white middle class people. |
I'd imagine we could look to extradite him. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:34 - Aug 4 with 3398 views | Kievthegreat |
Fingers crossed:
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:36 - Aug 4 with 3343 views | Zx1988 |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:32 - Aug 4 by BlueBadger |
I'd imagine we could look to extradite him. |
Is there a difference if he can prove that he made the various inciteful posts from outside the UK?
Would that put him outside of the jurisdiction of the CPS, or do national boundaries not count when it comes to incitement online? | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:37 - Aug 4 with 3320 views | Ftnfwest |
Relatively quick for TTK I expect |  | | |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:44 - Aug 4 with 3187 views | Kievthegreat |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:32 - Aug 4 by BlueBadger |
I'd imagine we could look to extradite him. |
Go the Shamima Begum route and renounce his citizenship? He's a far greater threat to this country than she was. | | | |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:55 - Aug 4 with 3065 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
I hope that there is some action he can take against Donna Jones. She is PCC for Hants and IoW and is also Chair of the Association of PCCs.
She issued a statement earlier in which she seemed to be excusing the actions of the thugs and that we must look at the motivations of both sides. The statement gained support from, among others, SYL but was also condemned by many including MPs from both Lab and Con benches.
The statement was deleted a couple of hours ago but she has now reposted it saying that we must look at what is causing the riots.
I can tell you what is behind the riots Ms Jones... Thuggery, racism, opportunistic looting and the desire by right-wingers to destroy our society for their political ends. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:09 - Aug 4 with 2821 views | blueasfook |
I wonder if this will also extend to anti-semitic propaganda and actions whipped up from certain quarters, making Jewish people feel unsafe. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:12 - Aug 4 with 2769 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:36 - Aug 4 by Zx1988 |
Is there a difference if he can prove that he made the various inciteful posts from outside the UK?
Would that put him outside of the jurisdiction of the CPS, or do national boundaries not count when it comes to incitement online? |
He is already on a warrant for other stuff I believe, having missed his court date for contempt.
I can't see why incitement could not be added just because he is overseas currently. | | | |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:13 - Aug 4 with 2732 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:55 - Aug 4 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I hope that there is some action he can take against Donna Jones. She is PCC for Hants and IoW and is also Chair of the Association of PCCs.
She issued a statement earlier in which she seemed to be excusing the actions of the thugs and that we must look at the motivations of both sides. The statement gained support from, among others, SYL but was also condemned by many including MPs from both Lab and Con benches.
The statement was deleted a couple of hours ago but she has now reposted it saying that we must look at what is causing the riots.
I can tell you what is behind the riots Ms Jones... Thuggery, racism, opportunistic looting and the desire by right-wingers to destroy our society for their political ends. |
She is right to the extent that one must look at the causes of these things. Prosecution is treating the symptom not the cause.
That is not to say that we need to treat the cause they are advocating, but rather we need to treat the rise of far right bigotry, false information etc etc | | | |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:25 - Aug 4 with 2604 views | gtsb1966 |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:02 - Aug 4 by Zx1988 |
Sounds like charges incoming against SYL. |
Farage has gone quiet but he did repost this...
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:34 - Aug 4 with 2539 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:13 - Aug 4 by redrickstuhaart |
She is right to the extent that one must look at the causes of these things. Prosecution is treating the symptom not the cause.
That is not to say that we need to treat the cause they are advocating, but rather we need to treat the rise of far right bigotry, false information etc etc |
I partly disagree.
She is asserting that the migrants (asylum seekers) are the cause. That is plain wrong.
Your final point... yes, absolutely. | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:34 - Aug 4 with 2539 views | Zx1988 |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:25 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Farage has gone quiet but he did repost this...
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He'll probably keep his powder dry for now, and resort to using parliamentary privilege to peddle his hate once the summer recess is over. | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:40 - Aug 4 with 2464 views | DJR |
The existing laws seem to me to be perfectly adequate to take the necessary action against what is going on. [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 18:45]
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:49 - Aug 4 with 2364 views | BlueBadger |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:13 - Aug 4 by redrickstuhaart |
She is right to the extent that one must look at the causes of these things. Prosecution is treating the symptom not the cause.
That is not to say that we need to treat the cause they are advocating, but rather we need to treat the rise of far right bigotry, false information etc etc |
So, she's suggesting that the violent nazis just have Very Real Concerns? | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:52 - Aug 4 with 2345 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:49 - Aug 4 by BlueBadger |
So, she's suggesting that the violent nazis just have Very Real Concerns? |
She appears to be. Yes. | | | |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 20:28 - Aug 4 with 1926 views | Mullet |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:40 - Aug 4 by DJR |
The existing laws seem to me to be perfectly adequate to take the necessary action against what is going on. [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 18:45]
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Wonder if sedition is still on the books. One of my favourite words that. | |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 20:30 - Aug 4 with 1902 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 18:09 - Aug 4 by blueasfook |
I wonder if this will also extend to anti-semitic propaganda and actions whipped up from certain quarters, making Jewish people feel unsafe. |
You'll need to explain your 'thinking' on that one! |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 20:43 - Aug 4 with 1818 views | tractordownsouth |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:19 - Aug 4 by Mullet |
This was meant to be about mourning a tragic murder and stabbing of children. The only reason to see today and say this has “been coming” is the likes of GBnews, Farage and the Mail et al. pushing this agenda for so long. |
Watching Reform make excuses for the racist violence has been extremely depressing. It’s also hypocritical. Imagine Farage’s reaction if a left-leaning MP had said “well there’s a climate crisis so you should expect Just Stop Oil to block the motorway.” He’d be furious. |  |
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| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 20:45 - Aug 4 with 1802 views | Plums |
| Starmer clipped here is very telling on 17:22 - Aug 4 by NeedhamChris |
You're giving them too much credit. The thick cowards couldn't even muster their own protest, they've piggy backed the horrific murder of three young girls as an excuse to riot.
Stop trying to rationalise Nazi behaviour. They're utter scum and belong in prison. |
It's almost as if the government that did the bidding of powerful overseas actors has gone leaving them needing to find other ways of destabilising the country.
Tin foil's on offer atm... |  |
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