Zelensky - what a guy. 21:56 - Feb 19 with 3271 views | reusersfreekicks | A good person in nightmare circumstances. And that bullying, weasly, inadequate, criminal, psychopathic orange c@nt goes after him. More than anything Trump has said or done in his pitiful immoral existence this has angered and upset me the most. It's beyond evil. Please let karma take It's course asap [Post edited 19 Feb 22:00]
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 22:15 - Feb 19 with 3170 views | Swansea_Blue | A little bit smarmy though, no? |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 02:41 - Feb 20 with 2984 views | Kropotkin123 | Trump fundamentally demonstrating he is a weak person. Tries to sell full surrender with no Russian consequences as a deal. Europe needs to step up and fast. We have the economic might to support Ukraine on our own. We can develop our industrial defense space, we can develop Ukraine's industrial defense space. But the Russians don't think we have the will power, the US don't think we have the will power, and even the Ukrainians don't think we have the will power. Why would they? We've been weak on the issue since Boris left. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 06:37 - Feb 20 with 2852 views | itfc_bucks |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 02:41 - Feb 20 by Kropotkin123 | Trump fundamentally demonstrating he is a weak person. Tries to sell full surrender with no Russian consequences as a deal. Europe needs to step up and fast. We have the economic might to support Ukraine on our own. We can develop our industrial defense space, we can develop Ukraine's industrial defense space. But the Russians don't think we have the will power, the US don't think we have the will power, and even the Ukrainians don't think we have the will power. Why would they? We've been weak on the issue since Boris left. |
Is that the Boris who is agreeing with Trump and pushing this American deal? Or is there another Boris I don't know about? |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:18 - Feb 20 with 2700 views | EdwardStone | There is more humanity, decency and courage in one of Zelenskyy's toenail clippings than in the whole of Trump's putrid slimy corpse I wonder if any Trumplings are beginning to feel a little buyer's remorse yet |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:19 - Feb 20 with 2689 views | cressi |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 06:37 - Feb 20 by itfc_bucks | Is that the Boris who is agreeing with Trump and pushing this American deal? Or is there another Boris I don't know about? |
Glad the yanks bought our football club only good things to say. But in general they are dangerous who on earth would vote for a criminal like Trump. Everytime a school gets shot up they cry and carry on with their absurd gun laws utter madness. |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:44 - Feb 20 with 2624 views | tonybied |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:19 - Feb 20 by cressi | Glad the yanks bought our football club only good things to say. But in general they are dangerous who on earth would vote for a criminal like Trump. Everytime a school gets shot up they cry and carry on with their absurd gun laws utter madness. |
There were a few cranks on here that used to stick up for Trump. They seem to have gone rather quiet recently. Is there any here that still think he is someone world leaders should aspire to? |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:48 - Feb 20 with 2590 views | NthQldITFC |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:44 - Feb 20 by tonybied | There were a few cranks on here that used to stick up for Trump. They seem to have gone rather quiet recently. Is there any here that still think he is someone world leaders should aspire to? |
Yes, I do. By the way, the word 'ostracise' seems to have fallen off the end of your question. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 15:04 - Feb 20 with 2247 views | Kropotkin123 |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 06:37 - Feb 20 by itfc_bucks | Is that the Boris who is agreeing with Trump and pushing this American deal? Or is there another Boris I don't know about? |
Give it a rest. Clearly whatever he is doing now is after when he left office. How about you engage with what I said. Eg, legitimate criticism of what I said could be that we were weak before he left - He should have provided air support when Ukraine asked, he didn't get UK defense spending on track. Or that we haven't been weak after - Starmer wants UK troops as a peacekeeping force. But whatever is going on now with him is an irrelevance to me choosing his departure as a change in the perception of UK foreign policy towards Russia's war on Ukraine. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 15:58 - Feb 20 with 2146 views | NthQldITFC | Haven't seen how he got on with old orange Crunchy Nut's Kellogg bloke yet. Hope he gave him a kick in the Rice Crispies. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 22:39 - Feb 20 with 1870 views | peterleeblue |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 02:41 - Feb 20 by Kropotkin123 | Trump fundamentally demonstrating he is a weak person. Tries to sell full surrender with no Russian consequences as a deal. Europe needs to step up and fast. We have the economic might to support Ukraine on our own. We can develop our industrial defense space, we can develop Ukraine's industrial defense space. But the Russians don't think we have the will power, the US don't think we have the will power, and even the Ukrainians don't think we have the will power. Why would they? We've been weak on the issue since Boris left. |
really good post until you said "when Boris left"! |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 02:45 - Feb 21 with 1775 views | Kropotkin123 |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 22:39 - Feb 20 by peterleeblue | really good post until you said "when Boris left"! |
It's really not the putdown you think it is. It says more about you than me. It was demonstrably a negative turning point for Ukraine. Rishi and Truss (fleetingly) were both inept on the issue. Starmer still has time to make his mark, but was way too late on storm shadows and is still trying to play up to US, when he should be prioritising and championing the ceasing of over $350bn of frozen Russian assets. Looks like a rudderless Europe (currently deferring to the NATO leader) are going to be slow to act and will be lacking leverage saying we can't do anything when the US secure it. I've shown some of my working in this post and the other. Now you show yours and leave party politics at the door, because I'm not interested in it on bipartisan issues. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 04:56 - Feb 21 with 1687 views | itfc_bucks |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 15:04 - Feb 20 by Kropotkin123 | Give it a rest. Clearly whatever he is doing now is after when he left office. How about you engage with what I said. Eg, legitimate criticism of what I said could be that we were weak before he left - He should have provided air support when Ukraine asked, he didn't get UK defense spending on track. Or that we haven't been weak after - Starmer wants UK troops as a peacekeeping force. But whatever is going on now with him is an irrelevance to me choosing his departure as a change in the perception of UK foreign policy towards Russia's war on Ukraine. |
Sorry, did you not say that we've been weak on the issue since Boris left? And is he not now pushing the US proposals? To address your other point, yes, the global response has been weak since 2014 and it's absolutely time that European allies step up. It's obvious that the west expected Ukraine to fold within days, if not weeks of the Russians rolling in and, frankly we've been playing catch up ever since. The implication, however, that that giant blonde haystack would have improved matters is laughable. Ukraine was only ever a diversion from his latest domestic cockup and, as a b-side, an outside chance for him to cosplay as Churchill if it all went to ratsht. |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 07:32 - Feb 21 with 1553 views | Herbivore | Imagine reporting the OP as abuse. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 07:49 - Feb 21 with 1497 views | noggin |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 07:32 - Feb 21 by Herbivore | Imagine reporting the OP as abuse. |
and not have the balls to expose themself by downvoting it. Bizarre. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:13 - Feb 21 with 1434 views | Kropotkin123 |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 04:56 - Feb 21 by itfc_bucks | Sorry, did you not say that we've been weak on the issue since Boris left? And is he not now pushing the US proposals? To address your other point, yes, the global response has been weak since 2014 and it's absolutely time that European allies step up. It's obvious that the west expected Ukraine to fold within days, if not weeks of the Russians rolling in and, frankly we've been playing catch up ever since. The implication, however, that that giant blonde haystack would have improved matters is laughable. Ukraine was only ever a diversion from his latest domestic cockup and, as a b-side, an outside chance for him to cosplay as Churchill if it all went to ratsht. |
Your response demonstrates that you've misunderstood what is written. You're arguing against things I haven't said and don't believe. You're confusing me choosing a moment in time where there was a cause and effect, with an endorsement of the person mentioned. It's not the same thing. I haven't said or suggested Boris would improve the situation. He could have been equally inept or worse. But up until that point we were doing much better. When the leadership changed, that was a turning point for us and Europe. Ukraine lost one it's most hawkish European leaders from the big nations. Europe hasn't spoken with anywhere near as a united voice as it did. For what it's worth, I think it was all for his own selfish populism, which is why you see the change in him now. But that doesn't alter that Europe has largely been rudderless since he departed. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:15 - Feb 21 with 1414 views | blueasfook |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 07:32 - Feb 21 by Herbivore | Imagine reporting the OP as abuse. |
It was me. The word "orange" upsets me |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:37 - Feb 21 with 1326 views | StokieBlue |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 07:32 - Feb 21 by Herbivore | Imagine reporting the OP as abuse. |
Still a number of Trump apologists on the forum, although their numbers are dwindling with every crazy action. SB |  | |  |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:39 - Feb 21 with 1305 views | Herbivore |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 08:15 - Feb 21 by blueasfook | It was me. The word "orange" upsets me |
Someone is straight off the set of TOWIE. |  |
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Zelensky - what a guy. on 04:45 - Feb 22 with 849 views | JackNorthStand |
Zelensky - what a guy. on 02:41 - Feb 20 by Kropotkin123 | Trump fundamentally demonstrating he is a weak person. Tries to sell full surrender with no Russian consequences as a deal. Europe needs to step up and fast. We have the economic might to support Ukraine on our own. We can develop our industrial defense space, we can develop Ukraine's industrial defense space. But the Russians don't think we have the will power, the US don't think we have the will power, and even the Ukrainians don't think we have the will power. Why would they? We've been weak on the issue since Boris left. |
It’s times like these when it’s really apparent why it’s so important to build an army in times of peace. UK military has been weakened year on year for the last 20 years. Under 2 different political parties, which is appalling. |  | |  |
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