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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. 12:45 - Feb 27 with 5569 viewsSWBlue22

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:47 - Feb 27 with 3121 viewsMullet

How is that Starmers doing?

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:53 - Feb 27 with 3053 viewsPinewoodblue

Am I right in thinking his constituents can still petition for his removal?

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:54 - Feb 27 with 3043 viewsJ2BLUE

This is really poor quality trolling. Up your game or give up.

Truly impaired.
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:55 - Feb 27 with 3030 viewsHerbivore

1/10, too obvious and nobody is buying that anyone is THAT dumb.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:56 - Feb 27 with 3016 viewsZx1988

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:53 - Feb 27 by Pinewoodblue

Am I right in thinking his constituents can still petition for his removal?


So long as he doesn't appeal any further and get the suspended custodial element removed as well.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:00 - Feb 27 with 2964 viewsSaffronWaldenBlues

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:47 - Feb 27 by Mullet

How is that Starmers doing?


As much as I dislike Starmer and his light-blue-new Labour-Tory tribute act, it's not him at all.

As for goading an MP with abuse, and getting thumped, well, as much as he shouldn't have reacted that way, pretty standard response for a bloke his age on the piss.
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:02 - Feb 27 with 2950 viewsKeno

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:55 - Feb 27 by Herbivore

1/10, too obvious and nobody is buying that anyone is THAT dumb.


How long have been posting on here to think people aren’t THAT dumb?

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:02 - Feb 27 with 2955 viewsIllinoisblue

That’s as poor as our second half display last night. Turn off GB News and try again.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:04 - Feb 27 with 2924 viewsleitrimblue

To be honest I just watched the video and it's difficult to see why there's no custodial sentence here.

Looks pretty unprovoked beyond the verbal. Victim as hands in pockets. Even worse rather then doing the right thing and admitting he'd had a few to drink and made a mistake he went for the bullsh1te defence of 'fearing he would be assaulted by this male and others in his group'.

By the way, we're your Trump avatar gone? Thought you were a big fan?
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:06 - Feb 27 with 2900 viewsHerbivore

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:04 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue

To be honest I just watched the video and it's difficult to see why there's no custodial sentence here.

Looks pretty unprovoked beyond the verbal. Victim as hands in pockets. Even worse rather then doing the right thing and admitting he'd had a few to drink and made a mistake he went for the bullsh1te defence of 'fearing he would be assaulted by this male and others in his group'.

By the way, we're your Trump avatar gone? Thought you were a big fan?


Assuming it's a first offence, I'd say a suspended sentence is about right.

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I expect he’ll appeal again…. on 13:10 - Feb 27 with 2845 viewsBloots

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:56 - Feb 27 by Zx1988

So long as he doesn't appeal any further and get the suspended custodial element removed as well.


….and probably get a victims payment, or compensation for damaging his knuckles on the other blokes head.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:13 - Feb 27 with 2816 viewspositivity

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:04 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue

To be honest I just watched the video and it's difficult to see why there's no custodial sentence here.

Looks pretty unprovoked beyond the verbal. Victim as hands in pockets. Even worse rather then doing the right thing and admitting he'd had a few to drink and made a mistake he went for the bullsh1te defence of 'fearing he would be assaulted by this male and others in his group'.

By the way, we're your Trump avatar gone? Thought you were a big fan?


sweepstake on his next avatar?

hitler's a bit obvious, i'm going for tate, truss or mussolini

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:13 - Feb 27 with 2819 viewsleitrimblue

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:06 - Feb 27 by Herbivore

Assuming it's a first offence, I'd say a suspended sentence is about right.


One of the many problems with this case is i can't imagine a situation where if the other bloke had started punching his MP then carried on giving him a kicking on the ground he wouldn't be facing a custodial sentence.

If I had been caught on cctv doing what that MP did I just couldn't imagine not getting a custodial sentence.

I think if the other bloke looked like he was going to hit him it might be a very different story. But in the video I'm sure he's being a annoying tw4t but don't think that justifies yer man's reaction
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:14 - Feb 27 with 2812 viewsNedPlimpton

Keith Stalin???

Genuine question... how old are you? And has that ever got a laugh anywhere outside of your own head?
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:17 - Feb 27 with 2767 viewsHerbivore

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:13 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue

One of the many problems with this case is i can't imagine a situation where if the other bloke had started punching his MP then carried on giving him a kicking on the ground he wouldn't be facing a custodial sentence.

If I had been caught on cctv doing what that MP did I just couldn't imagine not getting a custodial sentence.

I think if the other bloke looked like he was going to hit him it might be a very different story. But in the video I'm sure he's being a annoying tw4t but don't think that justifies yer man's reaction


If the other guy looked like he was going to hit him he wouldn't even get convicted as it'd be self defence. Assuming you have no priors, I'd be surprised if you got a custodial sentence for a first offence of this nature. I'm not sure what the value of that would be, a suspended sentence is a deterrent and means you will have a community order of some sort alongside it to address the behaviour. We can't keep locking people up.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:19 - Feb 27 with 2748 viewsleitrimblue

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:13 - Feb 27 by positivity

sweepstake on his next avatar?

hitler's a bit obvious, i'm going for tate, truss or mussolini


Truss and Tates to obvious. I'd like to see something a bit more original. I dunno, perhaps Genghis Khan or Darth Vader or even T bag from Prison Break
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:26 - Feb 27 with 2705 viewsleitrimblue

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:17 - Feb 27 by Herbivore

If the other guy looked like he was going to hit him he wouldn't even get convicted as it'd be self defence. Assuming you have no priors, I'd be surprised if you got a custodial sentence for a first offence of this nature. I'm not sure what the value of that would be, a suspended sentence is a deterrent and means you will have a community order of some sort alongside it to address the behaviour. We can't keep locking people up.


I'm not keen on locking people up for petty crimes myself.

But I'd feel a bit different about acts of violence.
If any if us were for example giving out to our local MP about the state of the roads etc and he started lashing out, as victims I think we would be looking for the perpetrator to face a custodial sentence.
I don't mean a long sentence either. Think 2-3 months would be enough to put manners on him. Just don't think it looks good for someone to be committing quite violent acts and getting away with a slap on the wrist and keeping there 90 grand a year income
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:30 - Feb 27 with 2686 viewsBlueForYou

I don't see how any reasonable citizen can condone this. Whether it's an MP or not. Should be more than 10 weeks for me. Sends out entirely the wrong message.
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:34 - Feb 27 with 2645 viewsHerbivore

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:26 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue

I'm not keen on locking people up for petty crimes myself.

But I'd feel a bit different about acts of violence.
If any if us were for example giving out to our local MP about the state of the roads etc and he started lashing out, as victims I think we would be looking for the perpetrator to face a custodial sentence.
I don't mean a long sentence either. Think 2-3 months would be enough to put manners on him. Just don't think it looks good for someone to be committing quite violent acts and getting away with a slap on the wrist and keeping there 90 grand a year income


It's in his constituents' hands for him to lose that salary though and I suspect that will be the case sooner rather than later. I think the reason he was initially given the custodial sentence was to reflect his profile as an MP, I doubt a similar incident on a night out would have attracted an immediate custodial sentence rather than a suspended one or even a community order. It's not one I'm overly bothered about, I think sending him down would be on the harsh side and the new sentence feels more proportionate to me but I wouldn't have lost any sleep over him doing a 10 week stretch either.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:47 - Feb 27 with 2574 viewsleitrimblue

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:34 - Feb 27 by Herbivore

It's in his constituents' hands for him to lose that salary though and I suspect that will be the case sooner rather than later. I think the reason he was initially given the custodial sentence was to reflect his profile as an MP, I doubt a similar incident on a night out would have attracted an immediate custodial sentence rather than a suspended one or even a community order. It's not one I'm overly bothered about, I think sending him down would be on the harsh side and the new sentence feels more proportionate to me but I wouldn't have lost any sleep over him doing a 10 week stretch either.


I agree it's a sorta border line case. 10 weeks may feel a tad harsh but community service and no custodial sentence seems a bit lenient. Judge stuck between a rock and a hard place really.

Though at the same time, if any of my friends or family had been attacked like that by some p1ssed bloke. I'd be far from happy with them not recieving a custodial sentence.

So a tricky enough case for a judge to deal with I imagine
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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:51 - Feb 27 with 2550 viewsiamatractorboy

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:13 - Feb 27 by positivity

sweepstake on his next avatar?

hitler's a bit obvious, i'm going for tate, truss or mussolini


The VAR official from the Leicester game?


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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 14:01 - Feb 27 with 2487 viewspositivity

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:19 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue

Truss and Tates to obvious. I'd like to see something a bit more original. I dunno, perhaps Genghis Khan or Darth Vader or even T bag from Prison Break


genghis wasn't evil, just misuderstood, all he wanted was to take back control and make mongolia great again

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The problem is that.... on 14:10 - Feb 27 with 2430 viewsBloots

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:30 - Feb 27 by BlueForYou

I don't see how any reasonable citizen can condone this. Whether it's an MP or not. Should be more than 10 weeks for me. Sends out entirely the wrong message.


....people get so entrenched in their "politics" that they can't think impartially.

To think that the correct punishment for punching a non threatening member of the public to the ground and then repeatedly punching him and threatening him will he is on the ground merits nothing more than a few weeks off the booze as punishment is ridiculous.

Add in the fact that he lied in his statement, then plainly he should have done a bit of bird, but because he represents your fave political party he should apparently be let off.

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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 14:12 - Feb 27 with 2392 viewsNthQldITFC

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 12:53 - Feb 27 by Pinewoodblue

Am I right in thinking his constituents can still petition for his removal?


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Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 14:14 - Feb 27 with 2371 viewsblueasfook

Two tier Keith Stalin strikes again. on 13:47 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue

I agree it's a sorta border line case. 10 weeks may feel a tad harsh but community service and no custodial sentence seems a bit lenient. Judge stuck between a rock and a hard place really.

Though at the same time, if any of my friends or family had been attacked like that by some p1ssed bloke. I'd be far from happy with them not recieving a custodial sentence.

So a tricky enough case for a judge to deal with I imagine


I think Herbers is right in this case. The "norm" for this kind of thing is usually a suspended sentence and/or some community service. Me and some pals got in a street fight at uni and while we warned we might be looking at custodial sentences, at the end of the day none of us got put away. We all had clean backgrounds, promising careers, blah blah. So that seemed to work in our favour and got us some leniency thankfully.

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