| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK 09:50 - Jul 17 with 4991 views | nrb1985 |
Is it possible Morsy departure hasn't been announced yet because we won't let him go until new signings are in the door? Or do you think it's done - no way back so to speak? |  | | |  |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 09:57 - Jul 17 with 3848 views | chenners17 |
Any further developments on Hackney? Optimism of a deal? | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:10 - Jul 17 with 3665 views | bluesbrothers |
Not been announced as it's not done. He's gone out to check he likes it etc | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:12 - Jul 17 with 3600 views | Wickets |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 09:57 - Jul 17 by chenners17 |
Any further developments on Hackney? Optimism of a deal? |
Not sure MBoro interested in selling him to us ? Also reported that there is Premier league interest . |  | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:13 - Jul 17 with 3576 views | SitfcB |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:10 - Jul 17 by bluesbrothers |
Not been announced as it's not done. He's gone out to check he likes it etc |
Whole family gone with him as well, wife, daughter, mum and dad. |  |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:16 - Jul 17 with 3515 views | Keno |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:13 - Jul 17 by SitfcB |
Whole family gone with him as well, wife, daughter, mum and dad. |
and Phil?? |  |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:20 - Jul 17 with 3446 views | PhilTWTD |
No, think it's just dependent on him and his family giving it the nod. |  | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:22 - Jul 17 with 3419 views | PhilTWTD |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 09:57 - Jul 17 by chenners17 |
Any further developments on Hackney? Optimism of a deal? |
Don't know, to be honest. I know we're very keen. Expected Premier League interest hadn't emerged as of a couple of days ago, so possible. I'd say that rather than probable, I think. | | | |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:24 - Jul 17 with 3350 views | portmanking |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:22 - Jul 17 by PhilTWTD |
Don't know, to be honest. I know we're very keen. Expected Premier League interest hadn't emerged as of a couple of days ago, so possible. I'd say that rather than probable, I think. |
Definitely shades of the Jack Clarke issue last summer. Agents unable to drum up firm PL interest.
From people I've spoken to, Hackney's lack of physicality seems to count against him in the eyes of most PL clubs - even though his defensive stats (duels etc) were rock-solid last season.
If you're not 6ft 2"+ most PL clubs won't even consider you for central midfield these days. | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:27 - Jul 17 with 3267 views | itfcjoe |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:24 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
Definitely shades of the Jack Clarke issue last summer. Agents unable to drum up firm PL interest.
From people I've spoken to, Hackney's lack of physicality seems to count against him in the eyes of most PL clubs - even though his defensive stats (duels etc) were rock-solid last season.
If you're not 6ft 2"+ most PL clubs won't even consider you for central midfield these days. |
I think it's more awareness than actual duels etc he struggles with - letting runners go, losing track of position etc
Same agent as Jack Clarke so following the same pattern - but JC did get a PL move, for less money that Sunderland wanted |  |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:31 - Jul 17 with 3146 views | PhilTWTD |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:20 - Jul 17 by PhilTWTD |
No, think it's just dependent on him and his family giving it the nod. |
That said, the feeling was that it would go through from the conversations I had yesterday. | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:35 - Jul 17 with 3056 views | portmanking |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:27 - Jul 17 by itfcjoe |
I think it's more awareness than actual duels etc he struggles with - letting runners go, losing track of position etc
Same agent as Jack Clarke so following the same pattern - but JC did get a PL move, for less money that Sunderland wanted |
If that's the case, he doesn't really sound like the ideal Luongo replacement?
Positional awareness is paramount in that role to cover Leif. | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:39 - Jul 17 with 2969 views | itfcjoe |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:35 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
If that's the case, he doesn't really sound like the ideal Luongo replacement?
Positional awareness is paramount in that role to cover Leif. |
He's a ball progressor - 99th percentile for progressive passing and progressive carries | |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:41 - Jul 17 with 2911 views | portmanking |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:39 - Jul 17 by itfcjoe |
He's a ball progressor - 99th percentile for progressive passing and progressive carries |
Where does that leave Ruiz, if we're still targeting him? And Matusiwa?
How do all three fit into the side? Unless we're going to a three-man midfield? | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:50 - Jul 17 with 2771 views | tractorboy1978 |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:41 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
Where does that leave Ruiz, if we're still targeting him? And Matusiwa?
How do all three fit into the side? Unless we're going to a three-man midfield? |
From what I've seen of Matusiwa, he looks like he can really get about the pitch and is far more mobile than Morsy. And looks defensively switched on too. Perhaps we see him doing some of the jobs of both Morsy/Luongo at this level and we can afford to have a more progressive player like Hackney alongside? [Post edited 17 Jul 10:50]
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:52 - Jul 17 with 2734 views | itfcjoe |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:41 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
Where does that leave Ruiz, if we're still targeting him? And Matusiwa?
How do all three fit into the side? Unless we're going to a three-man midfield? |
Matusiwa as the 6, Ruiz and Hackney battling it out to play alongside him | |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:59 - Jul 17 with 2628 views | SheffordBlue |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:52 - Jul 17 by itfcjoe |
Matusiwa as the 6, Ruiz and Hackney battling it out to play alongside him |
That's probably the ideal 3 to come in in my opinion. Hackney has the league experience and might be expected to be starting more league games in the early part of the season while Ruiz adapts to the league/playing style/country etc but starts in the cup games, etc. | |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:02 - Jul 17 with 2556 views | portmanking |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:52 - Jul 17 by itfcjoe |
Matusiwa as the 6, Ruiz and Hackney battling it out to play alongside him |
Is Hackney going to leave Boro to have a 50/50 shot at starting Champ games? Will Ruiz pick us over Nice or Monchengladbach if he's not a guaranteed starter?
Just playing devil's advocate.
I'd love all three in our ranks, but all would be deserving of starts at Champ level, surely? | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:06 - Jul 17 with 2501 views | tonybied |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:02 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
Is Hackney going to leave Boro to have a 50/50 shot at starting Champ games? Will Ruiz pick us over Nice or Monchengladbach if he's not a guaranteed starter?
Just playing devil's advocate.
I'd love all three in our ranks, but all would be deserving of starts at Champ level, surely? |
Yeah, I'd imagine it's one or the other with Hackney and Ruiz. It would be some sell by the club to land both! |  | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:11 - Jul 17 with 2395 views | tractorboy1978 |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:02 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
Is Hackney going to leave Boro to have a 50/50 shot at starting Champ games? Will Ruiz pick us over Nice or Monchengladbach if he's not a guaranteed starter?
Just playing devil's advocate.
I'd love all three in our ranks, but all would be deserving of starts at Champ level, surely? |
Got to wonder how well set Ruiz is for playing a 46 game season though considering he's not had a break since December. I wonder if that might put the likes of Nice and Monchengladbach off at this stage too. | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:16 - Jul 17 with 2336 views | nrb1985 |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:10 - Jul 17 by bluesbrothers |
Not been announced as it's not done. He's gone out to check he likes it etc |
Thanks mate.
Having been to Kuwait for work - I'm reasonably hopeful there's still a glimmer of hope for us! Sure Sam will love it but not much to keep the family occupied. | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:16 - Jul 17 with 2320 views | itfcjoe |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:02 - Jul 17 by portmanking |
Is Hackney going to leave Boro to have a 50/50 shot at starting Champ games? Will Ruiz pick us over Nice or Monchengladbach if he's not a guaranteed starter?
Just playing devil's advocate.
I'd love all three in our ranks, but all would be deserving of starts at Champ level, surely? |
These are the sort of squads you can build with parachute payments | |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:19 - Jul 17 with 2267 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 10:39 - Jul 17 by itfcjoe |
He's a ball progressor - 99th percentile for progressive passing and progressive carries |
Yep and he is miles ahead of anyone at this level in these areas. The ease in which he takes the ball off defenders, turns and creates an attack is seriously high level stuff.
Would be amazing if he came, I just cannot see it happening. |  |
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| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:24 - Jul 17 with 2166 views | tonybied |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:16 - Jul 17 by itfcjoe |
These are the sort of squads you can build with parachute payments |
Oh, I don't doubt we could facilitate this financially. I would expect both players would be likely to consider becoming a squad player in the PL, but I have my doubts 2 players of this stature would be happy being benched for a Championship team. | | | |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:34 - Jul 17 with 2029 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| FAO Phil/Or anyone else ITK on 11:24 - Jul 17 by tonybied |
Oh, I don't doubt we could facilitate this financially. I would expect both players would be likely to consider becoming a squad player in the PL, but I have my doubts 2 players of this stature would be happy being benched for a Championship team. |
I don't think it's that tricky a sell necessarily. You say to both they're amazing players who are going to smash it and make the spot their own, that there are 50 plus games a season, that they'll be on a shed load of cash with a guaranteed release clause to the the prem at the end of season, or promotion with us. Play as well as everyone knows you can and either way at the end of this season you'll be in the prem and more established, worse case earn a million or two playing half the games and toddle off next year or just stay and take the money.
Plus Ed Sheeran will have a word too!! |  | | |
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