| Last post 23:39 - Nov 28 with 3731 views | lewblu |
I won't be posting anything on here again. I've been accused of being a Norwich fan (I'm not) being on drugs (I'm not) being on my period (I'm not) I've supported Town since 1978 when I was just 8 years old. I've been up and down the country through thick and thin. My views are my own, yes I believe o'shea is awful, yes I believe that the instruction to play out from the back even though our defenders don't have the ability to do so is wrong. I think Kieran Mckenna is a lovely guy whose heart is in the right place but I also believe that egeli and philogene would benifit from getting the ball played to them earlier rather than waiting until two or three defenders are marking them. I can't support another team, Ipswich are part of me. The happy clappers can carry on defending results like tonight's. Good luck. |  | | |  |
| Last post on 23:43 - Nov 28 with 2726 views | MrPotatoHead |
It’s a shame there are posters on here who get personal and accuse people they don’t know of supporting Norwich because they’re too immature to read an opinion that’s different to their own. John Warks Willy did the same of me earlier which I found surprising, but hey ho.
I wouldn’t take it personally or let it keep you away. |  | | |
| Last post on 23:45 - Nov 28 with 2698 views | Kropotkin123 |
Despite what you say, your "happy clappers" comment makes you seem like you are on drugs. If someone disagrees with you, that is all there is to it. If you've been through the thin, then you know "awful" is sensationalism or you simple don't have thick skin.
For the record. I'm not happy with the performances or results. [Post edited 28 Nov 23:46]
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| Last post on 23:47 - Nov 28 with 2666 views | orfordbuoy |
an entitled, middle-aged bitterness pervades this forum. Fail to toe the party line and the herd mentality kicks in. |  | | |
| Last post on 23:52 - Nov 28 with 2581 views | Godzilla |
That's a such shame as your conributions have been so uplifting at times, but if you genuinely think Dara is awful then it's probably time to get your coat. |  | | |
| Last post on 23:54 - Nov 28 with 2545 views | cressi |
Don't let them bother you we are poor at the moment and I actually blame McKenna for a lot of it not been great since the summer we went up and he got his new pay deal. And u will be here when his gone like supporters are. | | | |
| Last post on 00:04 - Nov 29 with 2461 views | Wickets |
Yes we fooked up tonight it was pretty obvious it was a game we should have won but saying that your post is rubbish . |  | | |
| Last post on 00:07 - Nov 29 with 2435 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Some good come out of tonight then. |  | | |
| Last post on 00:09 - Nov 29 with 2414 views | baxterbasics |
Well your "Tired of this" post was utter bobbins. Hope you stand by your word because this will only improve standards around here. |  |
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| Last post on 00:17 - Nov 29 with 2378 views | Meadowlark |
I have been supporting/watching Town for 10 years longer.
Tonight was disappointing. But am I a happy clapper?
Ask the people stood next to me!
But if you have been supporting any team for that length of time, you know, I hope, that, nothing can be determined on just one result. As supporters of long standing we can see things that could be better, but also we can be pleasantly surprised by things we have never seen before. We expected to win tonight but we didn't.
That's all. |  | | |
| Last post on 00:40 - Nov 29 with 2304 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I personally found the 'time of the month' post offensive and unnecessary, but you have to admit that you were using hyperbole in your OP. O'Shea is nowhere near the worst player to wear/have worn an Ipswich Town shirt, and if you have supported ITFC since 1978, then you really should know that, and don't have grounds for offence on that front. |  |
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| Last post on 00:47 - Nov 29 with 2270 views | J2BLUE |
Don't let it stop you posting. Everyone is frustrated after a defeat. We have got to see the bigger picture though. Even playing relatively poorly we are climbing the league. I'm sure we will do some business in January with a few in and few out to provide what we're missing.
We are climbing the league. It's not linear progress and it never will be. Admittedly we look very average much of the time but it's enough to climb up the league. McKenna has more than earnt this season. I really think we will go up. Maybe it's more of a battle than we expected but we have a real chance.
In May, when we're all hopefully standing in the park at the promotion celebration some people will look back on their reactions with embarrassment.
In the short term it's incredibly frustrating. In the longer term our trajectory is upwards. It's a game of fine margins and we usually find a way to come out on top. Today we didn't. Their striker gets his shot saved and it bounced straight back to him. Fine margins. Not suggesting Oxford didn't deserve it. They managed us very well and did what they needed to do but most of the time we will find a way to win games like that.
For all the doom and gloom we are three points off second right now. Whatever gut feelings people have, the table doesn't lie. |  |
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| Last post on 01:55 - Nov 29 with 2152 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Last post on 00:47 - Nov 29 by J2BLUE |
Don't let it stop you posting. Everyone is frustrated after a defeat. We have got to see the bigger picture though. Even playing relatively poorly we are climbing the league. I'm sure we will do some business in January with a few in and few out to provide what we're missing.
We are climbing the league. It's not linear progress and it never will be. Admittedly we look very average much of the time but it's enough to climb up the league. McKenna has more than earnt this season. I really think we will go up. Maybe it's more of a battle than we expected but we have a real chance.
In May, when we're all hopefully standing in the park at the promotion celebration some people will look back on their reactions with embarrassment.
In the short term it's incredibly frustrating. In the longer term our trajectory is upwards. It's a game of fine margins and we usually find a way to come out on top. Today we didn't. Their striker gets his shot saved and it bounced straight back to him. Fine margins. Not suggesting Oxford didn't deserve it. They managed us very well and did what they needed to do but most of the time we will find a way to win games like that.
For all the doom and gloom we are three points off second right now. Whatever gut feelings people have, the table doesn't lie. |
I'm not sure an endless turnover of players is the answer
We can't just keep getting people in - deciding their not good enough, rinse and repeat |  | | |
| Last post on 02:51 - Nov 29 with 2089 views | J2BLUE |
| Last post on 01:55 - Nov 29 by reusersfreekicks |
I'm not sure an endless turnover of players is the answer
We can't just keep getting people in - deciding their not good enough, rinse and repeat |
No but there are some clear gaps in the squad. If Nunez is now a 10 (where he seems much more suited) then we need a CM. I think we will go all out for Hackney. To get that done we will need to get into second and hope Boro fall down the table a bit so challenging for automatics seems unrealistic.
We also (arguably) need a CB. Maybe the Uruguay guy. O'Shea is going to start if fit so ideally a player who is equally comfortable in either CB position.
Maybe another striker unless Akpom can really make a case for being the striker. It's not quite happening for Hirst.
We can create space in the squad by getting rid of 1-2 of the RBs. Although then we would need a back up LB... | |
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| Last post on 02:56 - Nov 29 with 2065 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Last post on 02:51 - Nov 29 by J2BLUE |
No but there are some clear gaps in the squad. If Nunez is now a 10 (where he seems much more suited) then we need a CM. I think we will go all out for Hackney. To get that done we will need to get into second and hope Boro fall down the table a bit so challenging for automatics seems unrealistic.
We also (arguably) need a CB. Maybe the Uruguay guy. O'Shea is going to start if fit so ideally a player who is equally comfortable in either CB position.
Maybe another striker unless Akpom can really make a case for being the striker. It's not quite happening for Hirst.
We can create space in the squad by getting rid of 1-2 of the RBs. Although then we would need a back up LB... |
Some very fair points
Still some weird recruitment i feel
Why get 2 20m players for the same position
Why get Young in
Why not get another defensive midfielder in
Is Azon good enough to challenge Hirst [Post edited 29 Nov 3:01]
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| Last post on 03:21 - Nov 29 with 2016 views | TheBlueGnu |
| Last post on 00:17 - Nov 29 by Meadowlark |
I have been supporting/watching Town for 10 years longer.
Tonight was disappointing. But am I a happy clapper?
Ask the people stood next to me!
But if you have been supporting any team for that length of time, you know, I hope, that, nothing can be determined on just one result. As supporters of long standing we can see things that could be better, but also we can be pleasantly surprised by things we have never seen before. We expected to win tonight but we didn't.
That's all. |
"We expected to win tonight" - really?
Night game away on TV, chance to go 2nd, Ipswich Town
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| Last post on 06:16 - Nov 29 with 1894 views | Swansea_Blue |
That seems like a bit of an overreaction, and besides you wouldn’t want to finish on your longest post now you’ve just got going. |  |
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| Last post on 06:24 - Nov 29 with 1861 views | HighgateBlue |
I'm really sorry to read this. The recent spate of accusations of people being Norwich fans is shameful bullying and intolerance. It's so evident that we are underperforming our enormous budget, and it's perfectly reasonable for that view to be expressed. The frustration engendered by yet another game where we fail to hit the target repeatedly and then concede from very few shots against is something felt keenly by real Town fans, and yet it is caring about this that causes one to be accused of being a Norwich fan.
I do wish people had either the erudition or basic kindness to express their opinions without victimising others who hold differing opinions. |  | | |
| Last post on 06:25 - Nov 29 with 1856 views | Benters |
As the great man said ‘don’t let the barstools grind you down’. |  |
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| Last post on 07:22 - Nov 29 with 1719 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
It's a bit strong to say Dara O'Shea is awful, but other than that I agree with you. McKenna's tactics are simply not working against teams that sit back in a low block, and never have really. Possibly the only time was during the L1 promotion but even then we struggled against teams like Lincoln, Cambridge, Oxford, etc. We were at our best when the team played out fast, there is no point in just playing slowly around and letting the opposition be in all the right defensive positions. |  |
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| Last post on 07:29 - Nov 29 with 1657 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| Last post on 23:45 - Nov 28 by Kropotkin123 |
Despite what you say, your "happy clappers" comment makes you seem like you are on drugs. If someone disagrees with you, that is all there is to it. If you've been through the thin, then you know "awful" is sensationalism or you simple don't have thick skin.
For the record. I'm not happy with the performances or results. [Post edited 28 Nov 23:46]
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The name calling of 'happy clappers' for the pro KMK crowd and 'bed wetters' for us that believe we should be doing better considering our resources are both pathetic.
In balance, an opinion between the two is probably most balanced. I have seen someone say that if we were to fire KMK he would be the best option available, and it is hard to disagree with that. On the other hand, this league is very poor this season and we are making a pigs ear of it. This constant rotation is killing us, we look disjointed and the partnerships and patterns of play from two years ago just aren't there. | | | |
| Last post on 07:37 - Nov 29 with 1619 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Last post on 07:29 - Nov 29 by Blue_In_Boston |
The name calling of 'happy clappers' for the pro KMK crowd and 'bed wetters' for us that believe we should be doing better considering our resources are both pathetic.
In balance, an opinion between the two is probably most balanced. I have seen someone say that if we were to fire KMK he would be the best option available, and it is hard to disagree with that. On the other hand, this league is very poor this season and we are making a pigs ear of it. This constant rotation is killing us, we look disjointed and the partnerships and patterns of play from two years ago just aren't there. |
Agreed. Although we don’t always need to have balanced opinions. Different views are fine, people responding to them aggressively isn’t. As long as people can explain their view in a civilised manner, they can hold as crazy opinions as they want. Very few of us on here will have any detailed knowledge of the game, so we're probably all wrong! I don’t know why people get so fixated that only they are in the right and the name calling/othering is pathetic.
And yeah, we’re not exactly clicking are we. It’s easy to see why people are frustrated. | |
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| Last post on 08:12 - Nov 29 with 1463 views | GavTWTD |
It does annoy us when people are called Norwich fans when they have negative things to say. But Dara O’Shea being the worst player you've ever seen play for us?that's a bit over the top and people have reacted to that. |  |
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| Last post on 08:57 - Nov 29 with 1315 views | BloomBlue |
Lovely overreaction there.
'I have a right to a personal opinion' but 'I hate it when someone else has a personal opinion about me being a Norwich fan'.
I hate to break this to you but that's how it works on a forum people have different opinions. If you're going to cry and cannot accept a different opinion to yours, a football forum isnt for you, have you looked at netball?
You don't like the personal attacks but calling O'Shea the worse Town player you've ever seen is bullshlt but also a personal attack on O'Shea. So my question to you is why is it ok for you to have a personal attack on a person doing a job, but not OK for others to have a personal attack on you.
Football isn't simply about spending money and you win games. If you've supported Town since 78 then you know that. We won the FA Cup that year and if it was based purely on money spent and league positions that season then Arsenal should have won that final 5-1, but that's not how football works.
Fortunately most adults understand that but unfortunately when Town lose there are a lot of immature posters on here who wet themselves. Its only a game of football |  | | |
| Last post on 09:03 - Nov 29 with 1297 views | Dubtractor |
| Last post on 23:43 - Nov 28 by MrPotatoHead |
It’s a shame there are posters on here who get personal and accuse people they don’t know of supporting Norwich because they’re too immature to read an opinion that’s different to their own. John Warks Willy did the same of me earlier which I found surprising, but hey ho.
I wouldn’t take it personally or let it keep you away. |
I was surprised you were picked out in that post, as you're mostly pretty balanced, certainly wouldn't make a top 20 list of bedwetters!
There were plenty on here last night who did justify that term though. I get post match emotions and all that, but so many just go so far over the top it's hard not to react to it. |  |
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| Last post on 09:25 - Nov 29 with 1211 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last post on 23:47 - Nov 28 by orfordbuoy |
an entitled, middle-aged bitterness pervades this forum. Fail to toe the party line and the herd mentality kicks in. |
There's no party line or herd. People post stuff, some people shrug, some people like it, some people don't. If you post something stupid more people don't like it. That's all. |  |
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