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Would you have taken this at start of season? 10:58 - Apr 27 with 1730 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

I expected us to be automatically promoted this season and while I wasn't expecting 100 points/100 goals etc, I did expect it to be more comfortable than this.

However, disregarding our points total and some of our performances, if you had offered me this position at the start of the season I would have taken it. And if you told me after Middlesbrough that 3 points from 2 games would secure promotion, I wouldn't have believed you.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:02 - Apr 27 with 1452 viewsSomethingBlue

Would have absolutely taken it – it doesn't really get a lot better.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:03 - Apr 27 with 1448 viewsandyblue231

probably for me.

but if you add in the context of a slightly dispiriting season with the bond between the team and supporters a little frayed, a lot of money spent on players we'll need to move on or loan out and the Ashton episode, then it becomes a little less certain.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:08 - Apr 27 with 1402 views_CliveBaker_

Depends how it was positioned I guess. If someone said we're 2nd with a game in hand, needing 1 win from these last 2 to guarantee promotion (barring a crazy GD swing of about 20), having done the double over Norwich, I would've snapped your arm off.

Had I been told we're on 80 points at this stage I would've thought its OK, but probably only enough for a playoff spot. The league table is a derivative of not just our contribution, but everyone else's. The fact we're 2nd is great, but we've not had a stellar season all things considered. Its been good, a solid 7.5/10, no more than that. Hopefully its good enough.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:11 - Apr 27 with 1384 viewsSomethingBlue

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:03 - Apr 27 by andyblue231

probably for me.

but if you add in the context of a slightly dispiriting season with the bond between the team and supporters a little frayed, a lot of money spent on players we'll need to move on or loan out and the Ashton episode, then it becomes a little less certain.


I just don't get the stuff about the supposed frayed bond between players and supporters. They've put a shift in every time. Dropped two or three stinkers, sure, but they're clearly a decent enough bunch and have given us an excellent double against Norwich to boot. Their only crime seems to be that they aren't the 2023-24 side – but nobody ever will be, so I just wish people would try to enjoy themselves.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:12 - Apr 27 with 1367 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

100%.

No brainer tbh. Look at how Saints and Leicester have done.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:13 - Apr 27 with 1354 viewsnrb1985

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:12 - Apr 27 by TRUE_BLUE123

100%.

No brainer tbh. Look at how Saints and Leicester have done.


This.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:14 - Apr 27 with 1360 viewsBellevue_Blue

You'd have probably taken it before the opening game of the season.

You'd have certainly taken it after the winless first month of the season.

No questions asked you'd have taken it when we were 7 points back and 4th in February.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:16 - Apr 27 with 1336 viewsjas0999

After our poor start to the season. Absolutely. Two attempts to win one game. Excellent.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:16 - Apr 27 with 1336 viewsDubtractor

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:14 - Apr 27 by Bellevue_Blue

You'd have probably taken it before the opening game of the season.

You'd have certainly taken it after the winless first month of the season.

No questions asked you'd have taken it when we were 7 points back and 4th in February.


Agree on all points!

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:29 - Apr 27 with 1242 viewsfarkenhell

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:11 - Apr 27 by SomethingBlue

I just don't get the stuff about the supposed frayed bond between players and supporters. They've put a shift in every time. Dropped two or three stinkers, sure, but they're clearly a decent enough bunch and have given us an excellent double against Norwich to boot. Their only crime seems to be that they aren't the 2023-24 side – but nobody ever will be, so I just wish people would try to enjoy themselves.


Some people seem to be incapable of that because of the money that has been spent. Or something like that.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:32 - Apr 27 with 1230 viewsSomethingBlue

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:29 - Apr 27 by farkenhell

Some people seem to be incapable of that because of the money that has been spent. Or something like that.


I just want us to get promoted, I couldn't care less whether or not it happens in the precise way I'd have planned it.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:36 - Apr 27 with 1188 viewsMattinLondon

I expected automatic promotion and quite frankly I expected it to be achieved with much more style and conviction. I know that some think that money doesn’t guarantee success and I can see that point -but when you consider just how much money has been spent I don’t think that it is unreasonable to suggest that the club should’ve performed better.

Saying that, I would’ve taken this at the start - so, yes.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:41 - Apr 27 with 1154 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:36 - Apr 27 by MattinLondon

I expected automatic promotion and quite frankly I expected it to be achieved with much more style and conviction. I know that some think that money doesn’t guarantee success and I can see that point -but when you consider just how much money has been spent I don’t think that it is unreasonable to suggest that the club should’ve performed better.

Saying that, I would’ve taken this at the start - so, yes.


I think that is spot on.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:49 - Apr 27 with 1118 viewsBlueDouglas

Yep. Like most others was expecting a battle with Saints & Leicester and maybe Sheffield Utd

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:57 - Apr 27 with 1070 viewsSwansea_Blue

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:11 - Apr 27 by SomethingBlue

I just don't get the stuff about the supposed frayed bond between players and supporters. They've put a shift in every time. Dropped two or three stinkers, sure, but they're clearly a decent enough bunch and have given us an excellent double against Norwich to boot. Their only crime seems to be that they aren't the 2023-24 side – but nobody ever will be, so I just wish people would try to enjoy themselves.


They very much put a shift in. They still seem disjointed at times on the ball, but there’s no doubting the effort. Defensively we’re miles better than in 23/24 too. When we’ve been outfought like against Pompey most recently, they’re still trying and sticking at it. You can’t always want it more than the other side, or always play better than the other side.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:58 - Apr 27 with 1071 viewsBellevue_Blue

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:11 - Apr 27 by SomethingBlue

I just don't get the stuff about the supposed frayed bond between players and supporters. They've put a shift in every time. Dropped two or three stinkers, sure, but they're clearly a decent enough bunch and have given us an excellent double against Norwich to boot. Their only crime seems to be that they aren't the 2023-24 side – but nobody ever will be, so I just wish people would try to enjoy themselves.


I think this season has just been a funny old year.

We have never looked the flair team that we look like we should be on paper and therefore even when we get good results, some feel underwhelmed by performances. I don't think it's a frayed bond or anything like that, just a natural disappointment that we haven't quite been the team many were hoping.

I also don't think it's a comparison to the 23/24 team. This team are just a bit of a turgid watch at times. Outside of Norwich (A), I think you'd have to go back to Swansea in Feb for the last really good 90 minute performance.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:16 - Apr 27 with 1003 viewsSWLondonBlue93

Would I have taken being in a position where one win from our final two games confirms promotion? 100% yes, without a doubt. I would have been surprised by our route to this position and the fact that we are where we are with "only" 80 points, but this Championship has played out somewhat differently to recent seasons.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:20 - Apr 27 with 983 viewssuffolkpoker

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:03 - Apr 27 by andyblue231

probably for me.

but if you add in the context of a slightly dispiriting season with the bond between the team and supporters a little frayed, a lot of money spent on players we'll need to move on or loan out and the Ashton episode, then it becomes a little less certain.


Some of you lot dont know how good we have got it...

Its not going to be perfect, its not always going to be pretty...

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:31 - Apr 27 with 897 viewsPioneerBlue

Absolutely yes i would have taken it in Aug, and if we dont do it disappointing it will be, however we will still need to dust ourselves down and go make it happen via the playoffs. Eitherway perfectly viable routes out of the league before a ball was kicked. This season wasnt supposed to be easy, lots of change and adjustments to make going up, during, then on out way out of the PL. look how a few other clubs have been challenged by that.

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:38 - Apr 27 with 852 viewsTripSwitch

Yes definitely

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:43 - Apr 27 with 828 viewsSomethingBlue

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:58 - Apr 27 by Bellevue_Blue

I think this season has just been a funny old year.

We have never looked the flair team that we look like we should be on paper and therefore even when we get good results, some feel underwhelmed by performances. I don't think it's a frayed bond or anything like that, just a natural disappointment that we haven't quite been the team many were hoping.

I also don't think it's a comparison to the 23/24 team. This team are just a bit of a turgid watch at times. Outside of Norwich (A), I think you'd have to go back to Swansea in Feb for the last really good 90 minute performance.


I just don't think we're turgid! I've seen turgid, it's several galaxies from here! There's been a lot of creep in the language around this team and most of it I don't recognise. Some of the games have become absolute slogs but that's generally because the opposition make it so; the speed of these matches can be pretty broken-up and it is very hard to get on top of that. But in the end we usually have and that's what counts.

Also not certain we saw the fabled 90-minute performance too often back in 23-24...
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:53 - Apr 27 with 777 viewsJakeITFC

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:43 - Apr 27 by SomethingBlue

I just don't think we're turgid! I've seen turgid, it's several galaxies from here! There's been a lot of creep in the language around this team and most of it I don't recognise. Some of the games have become absolute slogs but that's generally because the opposition make it so; the speed of these matches can be pretty broken-up and it is very hard to get on top of that. But in the end we usually have and that's what counts.

Also not certain we saw the fabled 90-minute performance too often back in 23-24...
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Football itself is also different to 23/24 - every team is taking an eternity over set plays and control/pragmatism is the order of the day.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 12:58 - Apr 27 with 754 viewsVic

Absolutely I would have taken it!

We didn't know then that we'd rarely play really well for 90 minutes, or that KM would have us playing much more pragmatically than before, and that our points total would be a fair bit down on the last promo season.

I'd have taken it then and I'll take it now! We are what we are - everything will change if we get promoted anyway. If we'd have gained another 10 points and gone up the team would still have needed serious improvement, as we saw last time. let;s hope we make a better fist of recruitment for the prem this time around (if we go up!)

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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 13:44 - Apr 27 with 654 viewsRsj13

Would you have taken this at start of season? on 11:29 - Apr 27 by farkenhell

Some people seem to be incapable of that because of the money that has been spent. Or something like that.


Also - and I'm curious to get others views - but the money spent point is a bit overstated for me. Not because we haven't spent it, obviously we have spent a lot. But because we were SO under invested for so long, that how much of this money is "catching up " to the rest of the pack and making up for 15 years of under investment? Not just the squad, but the fact that the club is moving a million miles an hour on infrastructure, obviously is great it's being done, but was that it was so necessary.
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Would you have taken this at start of season? on 13:59 - Apr 27 with 607 viewsandyblue231

we have an 85% chance of going up from this point. so there is obviously a 15% risk of failure in choosing this option.

And there was definitely a moment pre season where it looked like we might get hackney, keep Hutchinson and add an Osula or someone. obviously thats a team which probably smashes the league and we go up with the core of a team to play in the premier league.

obviously as it turns out that wasn't possible. but at the time a lot of us thought it was and there's no denying we'd probably be in a better position going into the summer in that situation.

but also the championship is mad and you can never guarantee anything.
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