| Utterly predictable and pathetic 13:17 - May 23 with 3833 views | itfcjoe |
People can start re-writing history and claim we weren't interested but all info from club is our number 1 target has gone because we were so indecisive.
We've had a vacancy since f*cking Easter! I'm fuming. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:18 - May 23 with 2489 views | Kieran_Knows |
It was the stupid timescale that does my f*cking head in. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:19 - May 23 with 2488 views | J2BLUE |
Has he gone? Is it worth clinging to the St Mirren chairman's words? Surely Ross wouldn't talk to them without permission if everything we've heard about him is true? |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 with 2444 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:19 - May 23 by J2BLUE |
Has he gone? Is it worth clinging to the St Mirren chairman's words? Surely Ross wouldn't talk to them without permission if everything we've heard about him is true? |
Football is lawless.
Sunderland will agree a deal with St Mirren, or it will end in a horrible mess, from which no parties emerge with any credit.
But it’s hard to see Ross coming here now.
Surely we must have an indication from Shrewsbury & Hurst that we can do a deal after the POs....? |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 with 2437 views | DanFord |
Why are people acting like Evans is an idiot. If he's spoken twice, knows the fans will buy into it and he hasn't offered him the job then he's obviously not completely sold on Ross. There is no way he is going to hold out for Hurst without knowing that he's going to be interested regardless of whether Shrewsbury go up and that he's going to be impressed when he meets him. Evans can't know either of those things. So no chance he'd have held off Ross for so long if he really was that impressed by him. He's identified him personally and approached him and spoken with him twice. He wasn't an applicant. I'm happy to go with Evans on this. If he really wanted Ross he'd have made it happen. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:22 - May 23 with 2411 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Yep, utter shambles |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:22 - May 23 with 2410 views | SomethingBlue |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:19 - May 23 by J2BLUE |
Has he gone? Is it worth clinging to the St Mirren chairman's words? Surely Ross wouldn't talk to them without permission if everything we've heard about him is true? |
Sunderland are a big draw with huge potential so it's easy to see why he might like to get it done. I'm sure if it was all done in a certain way, possibly via an agent, it would be easy enough to do without making him look too awful. | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:23 - May 23 with 2387 views | Betablocker |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 by DanFord |
Why are people acting like Evans is an idiot. If he's spoken twice, knows the fans will buy into it and he hasn't offered him the job then he's obviously not completely sold on Ross. There is no way he is going to hold out for Hurst without knowing that he's going to be interested regardless of whether Shrewsbury go up and that he's going to be impressed when he meets him. Evans can't know either of those things. So no chance he'd have held off Ross for so long if he really was that impressed by him. He's identified him personally and approached him and spoken with him twice. He wasn't an applicant. I'm happy to go with Evans on this. If he really wanted Ross he'd have made it happen. |
Because when it comes to football he's got a track record of failure - that's why | | | |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:24 - May 23 with 2381 views | portmanking |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:22 - May 23 by SomethingBlue |
Sunderland are a big draw with huge potential so it's easy to see why he might like to get it done. I'm sure if it was all done in a certain way, possibly via an agent, it would be easy enough to do without making him look too awful. |
That's all well and good but Ross doesn't have an agent, according to the well-informed Phil-equivalent on the St Mirren fans' forum. | | | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:24 - May 23 with 2372 views | StokieBlue |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 by DanFord |
Why are people acting like Evans is an idiot. If he's spoken twice, knows the fans will buy into it and he hasn't offered him the job then he's obviously not completely sold on Ross. There is no way he is going to hold out for Hurst without knowing that he's going to be interested regardless of whether Shrewsbury go up and that he's going to be impressed when he meets him. Evans can't know either of those things. So no chance he'd have held off Ross for so long if he really was that impressed by him. He's identified him personally and approached him and spoken with him twice. He wasn't an applicant. I'm happy to go with Evans on this. If he really wanted Ross he'd have made it happen. |
Rather a lot of assumptions in there including the key assumption of hiring competence on Evans part.
I know people think I'm a wally for ending my posts with "SB" but any chance we could get the occasional paragraph in your posts so we can attempt to divine their underlying meaning?
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:24 - May 23 with 2366 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 by DanFord |
Why are people acting like Evans is an idiot. If he's spoken twice, knows the fans will buy into it and he hasn't offered him the job then he's obviously not completely sold on Ross. There is no way he is going to hold out for Hurst without knowing that he's going to be interested regardless of whether Shrewsbury go up and that he's going to be impressed when he meets him. Evans can't know either of those things. So no chance he'd have held off Ross for so long if he really was that impressed by him. He's identified him personally and approached him and spoken with him twice. He wasn't an applicant. I'm happy to go with Evans on this. If he really wanted Ross he'd have made it happen. |
Er, yes he would hold out for Hurst. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:25 - May 23 with 2337 views | DanFord |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:24 - May 23 by Reuser_is_God |
Er, yes he would hold out for Hurst. |
Only if he really thought Hurst was a cut above Ross. In which case why appoint Ross! | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:25 - May 23 with 2334 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 by ITFC_Forever |
Football is lawless.
Sunderland will agree a deal with St Mirren, or it will end in a horrible mess, from which no parties emerge with any credit.
But it’s hard to see Ross coming here now.
Surely we must have an indication from Shrewsbury & Hurst that we can do a deal after the POs....? |
Probably not. | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:26 - May 23 with 2330 views | Steve_M |
Very symptomatic of 95% of Marcus Evans' time at ITFC. Poor judgement and decision making run through the last decade.
To think that one fairly gentle TV interview convinced so many he knew what he was doing. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:27 - May 23 with 2318 views | NorthstaNder |
OP Maybe Ross didn't convince Evans that he was the man to guide ITFC back to some form of success (whatever we class success as these days).
No point in all this girly blubbing just because the man you wanted looks less likely to be appointed. We get who Evans wants, not you.
Also, you might want to change your avatar. It's weird. |  | | |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:31 - May 23 with 2273 views | chicoazul |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:26 - May 23 by Steve_M |
Very symptomatic of 95% of Marcus Evans' time at ITFC. Poor judgement and decision making run through the last decade.
To think that one fairly gentle TV interview convinced so many he knew what he was doing. |
Yep. Anyone annoyed at this turn of events simply hasn't been paying attention for the last 10 years.
Although I should probably withhold judgment on that until we see who we *do* appoint. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:35 - May 23 with 2223 views | homer_123 |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:26 - May 23 by Steve_M |
Very symptomatic of 95% of Marcus Evans' time at ITFC. Poor judgement and decision making run through the last decade.
To think that one fairly gentle TV interview convinced so many he knew what he was doing. |
I posted on this at the time and said that if peoples view of Evans was altered by that interview they need their heads testing. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:42 - May 23 with 2158 views | mrshallisfit |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:21 - May 23 by DanFord |
Why are people acting like Evans is an idiot. If he's spoken twice, knows the fans will buy into it and he hasn't offered him the job then he's obviously not completely sold on Ross. There is no way he is going to hold out for Hurst without knowing that he's going to be interested regardless of whether Shrewsbury go up and that he's going to be impressed when he meets him. Evans can't know either of those things. So no chance he'd have held off Ross for so long if he really was that impressed by him. He's identified him personally and approached him and spoken with him twice. He wasn't an applicant. I'm happy to go with Evans on this. If he really wanted Ross he'd have made it happen. |
You seem to have lots of confidence in our our owner. I wonder why? His track record is not entirely faultless (i.e. pretty hopeless). | | | |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:45 - May 23 with 2123 views | DanTheMan |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:42 - May 23 by mrshallisfit |
You seem to have lots of confidence in our our owner. I wonder why? His track record is not entirely faultless (i.e. pretty hopeless). |
Because he gave an interview! All is forgiven! 5 point plan everyone!
Agree with Joe, it was just so bloody predictable.
Bet Shrewsbury go up and Hurst turns us down now as well.
Such a shambles. What was Hurst going to say in the interview that would have dramatically changed things? |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:46 - May 23 with 2099 views | DanFord |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:42 - May 23 by mrshallisfit |
You seem to have lots of confidence in our our owner. I wonder why? His track record is not entirely faultless (i.e. pretty hopeless). |
Evans has explained what he wants and interviewed Ross twice, an impressive manager we'd all be happy to have, but one nobody really expected Evans to seek out. People assumed we'd go for the best has been that applied. Evans has been impressive in courting Hurst and Ross, the two outstanding young managers likely to see us as a step up. I give him huge credit for that. If he genuinely thought Ross was the man, then he'd have offered him a deal and a decent one. If Sunderland have topped a good offer that Evans made then not much we can do about that. | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:49 - May 23 with 2075 views | hype313 |
I don't buy this notion that he was our number one target, I get the impression Hurst is and has always been number one. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:50 - May 23 with 2062 views | Smithy |
If he really wanted to be here he would have waited regardless, the fact Sunderland have come in and gazumped us to me shows that he wasn't overly interested whether that was money, budget or something else and that money talks.
I'd sooner have somebody in who really wants to manage the club and won't be driven by money and has belief in his coaching ability. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:51 - May 23 with 2053 views | Steve_M |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:31 - May 23 by chicoazul |
Yep. Anyone annoyed at this turn of events simply hasn't been paying attention for the last 10 years.
Although I should probably withhold judgment on that until we see who we *do* appoint. |
A friend of mine compared the news of our first interest in Ross to that in Charlie Austin. Looks prescient at this point in time. | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:52 - May 23 with 2050 views | horsehollerer |
Thought you nailed it with your subject line but then I realised you weren't talking about the over-reaction on here. |  |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:53 - May 23 with 2044 views | itfcjoe |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:49 - May 23 by hype313 |
I don't buy this notion that he was our number one target, I get the impression Hurst is and has always been number one. |
The club are clearly leaking to TWTD and EADT that Ross is the forerunner | |
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| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:53 - May 23 with 2036 views | chicoazul |
| Utterly predictable and pathetic on 13:51 - May 23 by Steve_M |
A friend of mine compared the news of our first interest in Ross to that in Charlie Austin. Looks prescient at this point in time. |
"I had Kevin Phillips sat right where you are now.."
As I say i am all for hauling Evans over the coals but I need to see who we do get before castigating him too much. Conte could be in the market for a new job soon. | |
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