| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:11 - Sep 4 with 1195 views | GlasgowBlue |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:08 - Sep 4 by BlueinBrum |
You're proving my point really. The Tories are so incredibly unpalatable that I'm driven to the alternative, in spite of its many faults, and have found myself supporting people like Corbyn because the alternative is so truly awful.
I abhor antisemitism and agree that the Labour Party should have done a much better job in dealing with these dreadful factions within its support. The fact that I would still much rather side with Labour in spite of these shortcomings reflects what a putrid mess the Conservative Party is. |
It isn't binary you know? You don't have to be put off from voting for the incompetent racists and driven into the arms of the racist incompetents.
There are other parties to vote for. |  |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:13 - Sep 4 with 1184 views | Darth_Koont |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:05 - Sep 4 by lowhouseblue |
"But I don't in principle think that the companies' or shareholders' interests are at the top of the list."
but on the other hand the expropriation of property / assets runs counter to the human rights convention. |
Define "expropriation" in this case. The proposal is to swap the value of their shares for the value of bonds.
Is that the way to go forward? Who knows? |  |
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| (No subject) on 14:14 - Sep 4 with 1176 views | footers |
| (No subject) on 14:03 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
"Did you not know about the reprehensible views of many in the party for all those years while you were merrily voting for them? Or did you just not care? "
Didn't we do this just a couple of months ago?
Edit. Yes we did. And you even thanked me for my answer.
re: John Ware who all the Corbynites have spent all weekend demonising by GlasgowBlue 9 Jul 2019 9:45I’ve not been an active member of the Conservative party since 1991 when I moved abroad. Since then i’ve paid a yearly subscription (up until 2017).
When I was active, through the 1980’s, there wasn’t an issue with Islamophobia. Then again there wasn’t an issue with Islamophobia in society in general. The only time I encountered it during my time as a councillor was when an Asian family were being targeted on a council estate in my ward by a minority of knuckle dragging residents who didn’t want “pakis” living amongst them.
There were far more issues in the Tory party back then with attitudes towards black people, but again, these were during a time were racism was far more open in the media and entertainment. Things were certainly said in society that would be unacceptable today.
But you have to remember that the period I am talking about predates the internet. There were very few black people where I lived and so anti black racism wasn’t something I ever come in to contact with. The only time that I recall it being an issue was when I was a member of the selection panel for local government and we had a prospective candidate in front of us who we had been informed by a neighbouring constituency that he had been leafleting for the National Front some years previously. Obviously he didn’t make it to the candidates list.
In more recent times I have obviously become aware of the anti immigrant rhetoric by the Tory party, although if you’ll forgive the whatabouterry, this is something that Labour have also indulged in with their “British Jobs for British workers” slogans and “controls on immigration” mugs.
So yeh, I’m pretty shocked that 60% of Tory members had islamophibic views, but altogether it surprised conspiring we have seen the demonisation of Muslims in the county and elsewhere since 9/11
A genuine question for you sprucey. You have said that you won’t vote labour because of their Brexit position and the antisemitism issue. If Corbyn comes out unequivocally for a people’s vote in which he will commit Labour to campaigning remain, will you reconsider voting Labour?
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You weren't aware of any racism in the Tory party in the 80s regarding Apartheid or attitudes surrounding the Brixton riots, etc? Wow. Must have pretty big blinkers on! |  |
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| (No subject) on 14:17 - Sep 4 with 1154 views | Darth_Koont |
| (No subject) on 14:14 - Sep 4 by footers |
You weren't aware of any racism in the Tory party in the 80s regarding Apartheid or attitudes surrounding the Brixton riots, etc? Wow. Must have pretty big blinkers on! |
Yet can see rampant antisemitism in the Labour party. So rampant that even some of the Jews are doing it!!
I'm calling bullsh!t. | |
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| (No subject) on 14:18 - Sep 4 with 1150 views | GlasgowBlue |
| (No subject) on 14:14 - Sep 4 by footers |
You weren't aware of any racism in the Tory party in the 80s regarding Apartheid or attitudes surrounding the Brixton riots, etc? Wow. Must have pretty big blinkers on! |
And here we go. 2 out of 3 start the pincer movement. You guys are nothing if not predictable. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 14:18]
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| (No subject) on 14:18 - Sep 4 with 1147 views | footers |
| (No subject) on 14:17 - Sep 4 by Darth_Koont |
Yet can see rampant antisemitism in the Labour party. So rampant that even some of the Jews are doing it!!
I'm calling bullsh!t. |
"Hang Nelson Mandela" was just a joke, and nothing to do with his race.
Damascene conversion, hosana. And a cure for the blind discovered too. Miraculous. | |
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| (No subject) on 14:20 - Sep 4 with 1137 views | GlasgowBlue |
| (No subject) on 14:18 - Sep 4 by footers |
"Hang Nelson Mandela" was just a joke, and nothing to do with his race.
Damascene conversion, hosana. And a cure for the blind discovered too. Miraculous. |
As somebody who has defended a great deal of the numerous antisemitic incidents in the Labour party I have linked on here, I can see why you would rather talk about things that happened over thirty years ago rather than what is happening today. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 14:21]
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| (No subject) on 14:24 - Sep 4 with 1112 views | footers |
| (No subject) on 14:20 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
As somebody who has defended a great deal of the numerous antisemitic incidents in the Labour party I have linked on here, I can see why you would rather talk about things that happened over thirty years ago rather than what is happening today. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 14:21]
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Ah, so you're still a bit blind then? I have said, even on this very thread, that there is a problem with antisemitism in the Labour party and am happy it's being dealt with. Some of your examples were arguable in my opinion. You disagree.
Oh, right. I just thought that you'd been such a strong anti-racist all your life that you would pick up on these things. Obviously not at a time when you were politically active in a party full of racists.
And I have also been talking about today as well. For example, the inherent Islamophobia in your 'former' party.
You carry on, GB. It's plain to see what you're doing. | |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:25 - Sep 4 with 1108 views | BrixtonBlue |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 13:52 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
You seem to be taking an odd position, based on who is posting rather than what is being posted.
In answer to a question I posed to you not so long ago you stated that you couldn't vote Labour under Corbyn even if he changed his position on Brexit because of the anti-Semitism issue and that you could get what you wanted from the Lib Dems.
Do you still stand by that statement? If so why are you jumping on the whatbouterry train and constantly bringing up the Tories?
If I was suggesting people vote Tory to keep Corbyn out of office then I could understand the position you are taking. But I'm not. I've said the exact opposite. |
It's you that rode in on the whatabouterry train.
All this bluster is to avoid dealing with the OP. |  |
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| (No subject) on 14:27 - Sep 4 with 1095 views | Darth_Koont |
| (No subject) on 14:18 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
And here we go. 2 out of 3 start the pincer movement. You guys are nothing if not predictable. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 14:18]
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I could say the same when you and Lowers gang up with your xenophobic Brexit, pro-Israeli lot.
But, of course, that's just a loose confederacy of dunces and shameless political fanboys. | |
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| (No subject) on 14:29 - Sep 4 with 1085 views | BrixtonBlue |
| (No subject) on 13:48 - Sep 4 by SpruceMoose |
A wise man once say:
The human race is in danger of eating itself. We are too quick to look for any sort of ism that just simply isn’t there.
Although they also said:
I can see why a bloke would go through tinder but my opinion is that if a bird is reduced to using a dating site then she doesn't get chatted up enough. No quality girl would be on one of those sites because they are either taken or get enough offers in the real world.
Things that make you go 'hmmm'. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 13:51]
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Did Glassers say that? I remember him saying similar, but not actually using the word "bird."
Also, the insinuation that a woman is only quality in terms of looks, and how often she's chatted up, is a bit sexist isn't it? | |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:32 - Sep 4 with 1071 views | caught-in-limbo |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:11 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
It isn't binary you know? You don't have to be put off from voting for the incompetent racists and driven into the arms of the racist incompetents.
There are other parties to vote for. |
Or vote for no one.
If there's crod on the BBC* and crod on the other chanels*, I show my displeasure by not entertaining any of them in the increasing belief that they realise and will improve their programming to get my attention back again.
Some people will say I should still sit on the sofa and watch a blank screen in protest. Nope, if they serve up poop I'm gone until they provide something useful. The fact that anyone's great uncle died for me to watch Auntie, doesn't wash with me.
*Or TVE and ETB etc |  |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:32 - Sep 4 with 1070 views | BrixtonBlue |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 13:46 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Is "bint" a sexist term for a woman? |
Yeah, I'm probably a bit sexist. And a bit thick as well.
Now we've dealt with that, do you want to offer an opinion on the OP that "Corbyn is better than no-deal Brexit, say investment banks"?
You've swerved it for 6 pages. | |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:34 - Sep 4 with 1047 views | BrixtonBlue |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:11 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
It isn't binary you know? You don't have to be put off from voting for the incompetent racists and driven into the arms of the racist incompetents.
There are other parties to vote for. |
Glassers, you've been voting for the Tories for years. They haven't just become racists overnight. | |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:34 - Sep 4 with 1040 views | SpruceMoose |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:34 - Sep 4 by BrixtonBlue |
Glassers, you've been voting for the Tories for years. They haven't just become racists overnight. |
Point of order. I think we should use the more general term 'bigots'. It's not just racism they've been guilty of. |  |
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| (No subject) on 14:35 - Sep 4 with 1039 views | BrixtonBlue |
| (No subject) on 14:18 - Sep 4 by GlasgowBlue |
And here we go. 2 out of 3 start the pincer movement. You guys are nothing if not predictable. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 14:18]
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Or just answer the question? | |
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| (No subject) on 14:35 - Sep 4 with 1038 views | Darth_Koont |
| (No subject) on 14:18 - Sep 4 by footers |
"Hang Nelson Mandela" was just a joke, and nothing to do with his race.
Damascene conversion, hosana. And a cure for the blind discovered too. Miraculous. |
I expect he just patted them on the head and said they should concentrate on the real enemy.
The anti-racists. | |
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| (No subject) on 14:37 - Sep 4 with 1028 views | BrixtonBlue |
| (No subject) on 14:24 - Sep 4 by footers |
Ah, so you're still a bit blind then? I have said, even on this very thread, that there is a problem with antisemitism in the Labour party and am happy it's being dealt with. Some of your examples were arguable in my opinion. You disagree.
Oh, right. I just thought that you'd been such a strong anti-racist all your life that you would pick up on these things. Obviously not at a time when you were politically active in a party full of racists.
And I have also been talking about today as well. For example, the inherent Islamophobia in your 'former' party.
You carry on, GB. It's plain to see what you're doing. |
He's been caught with his pants down, while wearing blinkers, and sat on a little pony. | |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:41 - Sep 4 with 1007 views | caught-in-limbo |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:32 - Sep 4 by BrixtonBlue |
Yeah, I'm probably a bit sexist. And a bit thick as well.
Now we've dealt with that, do you want to offer an opinion on the OP that "Corbyn is better than no-deal Brexit, say investment banks"?
You've swerved it for 6 pages. |
"Yeah, I'm probably a bit sexist. And a bit thick as well."
You're not sexist.
But it's worthwhile knowing that the word "bint" is an Arabic word meaning "girl". Don't want anyone accusing you of racism either, right? | |
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| (No subject) on 14:42 - Sep 4 with 1005 views | GlasgowBlue |
| (No subject) on 14:29 - Sep 4 by BrixtonBlue |
Did Glassers say that? I remember him saying similar, but not actually using the word "bird."
Also, the insinuation that a woman is only quality in terms of looks, and how often she's chatted up, is a bit sexist isn't it? |
Very sexist. As was my post that the most interesting thing I'd seen at Ipswich last season* was the barmaid's tits. Sprucey's sidekick obviously couldn't find that one in his list of bookmarked posts.
*Season 2017 I think. Could have been 2016.
I'm honest enough to admit that I have used sexist and outdated language. I hope to do better in the future. I think that I do.
Meanwhile you have wriggled and squirmed when challenged about your own sexist language. [Post edited 4 Sep 2019 14:43]
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:45 - Sep 4 with 993 views | footers |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:34 - Sep 4 by BrixtonBlue |
Glassers, you've been voting for the Tories for years. They haven't just become racists overnight. |
This being a more recent example.
At the same time as he was happily a member, dear old footers was hitting the streets of the East End dispensing leaflets to migrants informing them of their rights, and how to deal with the shady immigration officers who'd literally kick their doors in at all hours. | |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:47 - Sep 4 with 985 views | BigManBlue |
This thread feels like Boxing Day with the family... |  |
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| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:48 - Sep 4 with 979 views | GlasgowBlue |
| "Corbyn better than no deal" - arch capitalists on 14:32 - Sep 4 by BrixtonBlue |
Yeah, I'm probably a bit sexist. And a bit thick as well.
Now we've dealt with that, do you want to offer an opinion on the OP that "Corbyn is better than no-deal Brexit, say investment banks"?
You've swerved it for 6 pages. |
I haven't swerved anything. I haven't given a comment either way.
As we can always vote out Corbyn if elected but will go over a cliff in the event of no deal I think I agree with the investment banks. | |
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