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Here it is........some love for us. 08:11 - Jan 22 with 2191 viewshampstead_blue

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No doubt some will, once more call this a waste of money.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 08:17 - Jan 22 with 1739 viewsSteve_M

Not at all, it's a relatively inexpensive but effective and clearly appreciated gesture. Not entirely sure why it should have to wait to November though, presumably to get two lots of headlines about it.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 10:32 - Jan 22 with 1590 viewsGeoffSentence

It is quite a nice idea, almost socialist really. I look forward to it being extended to other people who have served their country but in a different way, perhaps to NHS staff or other public sector workers who serve their country day in day out.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Here it is........some love for us. on 10:38 - Jan 22 with 1580 viewsfooters

It's the railway shareholders I feel sorry for in all this. What a hit they'll be taking

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Here it is........some love for us. on 10:42 - Jan 22 with 1572 viewschicoazul

Now if they could get the military to make the trains run on time, oh hang on someone already tried that didnt they

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Here it is........some love for us. on 10:46 - Jan 22 with 1557 viewsfooters

Here it is........some love for us. on 10:42 - Jan 22 by chicoazul

Now if they could get the military to make the trains run on time, oh hang on someone already tried that didnt they


Might be wrong but think the Maximum Italian only made *his* train run on time... hence where the saying came from.

Will need to check.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 10:58 - Jan 22 with 1517 viewsDanTheMan

Here it is........some love for us. on 10:46 - Jan 22 by footers

Might be wrong but think the Maximum Italian only made *his* train run on time... hence where the saying came from.

Will need to check.


I thought it was mainly used in jest because of the awful things he did.

Although Mussolini did use it as propaganda that his regime sorted the trains out but that's only partially true (and that's at a push).

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Here it is........some love for us. on 12:40 - Jan 22 with 1406 viewsOldsmoker

The cynic within me thought that it was just WW2 vets. If they were 20 in 1945 they would be 95 now so hardly anyone would benefit.
It's for all ex-servicemen (I'm sure that includes all genders) so a decent call but who pays for it? - the govt. or the rail companies.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 12:42 - Jan 22 with 1395 viewsBlueRaider

Well deserved, the cost of rail travel baffles me though, so expensive when you compare it to flying and driving, especially when you consider that so many trains are absolutely packed.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 12:52 - Jan 22 with 1357 viewsBrixtonBlue

I might be missing something but a Network Railcard costs the same as this and also gets you a third off. What's the difference?

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Here it is........some love for us. on 12:59 - Jan 22 with 1332 viewsGeoffSentence

Here it is........some love for us. on 12:52 - Jan 22 by BrixtonBlue

I might be missing something but a Network Railcard costs the same as this and also gets you a third off. What's the difference?


Network Railcard only covers a limited area doesn't it? London and the south east. I assume the card for vets will be national.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Here it is........some love for us. on 12:59 - Jan 22 with 1332 viewsDanTheMan

Here it is........some love for us. on 12:52 - Jan 22 by BrixtonBlue

I might be missing something but a Network Railcard costs the same as this and also gets you a third off. What's the difference?


Just the south east, isn't it?

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Here it is........some love for us. on 13:07 - Jan 22 with 1298 viewsBrixtonBlue

Here it is........some love for us. on 12:59 - Jan 22 by GeoffSentence

Network Railcard only covers a limited area doesn't it? London and the south east. I assume the card for vets will be national.


Yep. I assume there's other cards for other regions but not sure. I guess it's pretty good if it covers the whole country but seems like a bit of a PR exercise by the Tories to me.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 13:36 - Jan 22 with 1248 viewshampstead_blue

Here it is........some love for us. on 12:42 - Jan 22 by BlueRaider

Well deserved, the cost of rail travel baffles me though, so expensive when you compare it to flying and driving, especially when you consider that so many trains are absolutely packed.


The cost of trains is horrific.
I've a meeting a Lotus cars and the train is £100 return from wiltshire and that's with a Railcard. I want to get the train, more relaxing and comfortable.

Crazy.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 13:45 - Jan 22 with 1228 viewsDanTheMan

Here it is........some love for us. on 13:36 - Jan 22 by hampstead_blue

The cost of trains is horrific.
I've a meeting a Lotus cars and the train is £100 return from wiltshire and that's with a Railcard. I want to get the train, more relaxing and comfortable.

Crazy.


Agreed on the price front, it is absurd how much even short trips can cost.

We should be, as a country, trying to prioritise public transport.

I know a few people (not friends mind) that literally won't take public transport because they see it as scummy, which is mind blowing.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 13:46 - Jan 22 with 1225 viewsJ2BLUE

It's a nice idea. Most people are appreciative of the military but don't worship it like you do. It doesn't mean we aren't grateful to have you.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 13:49 - Jan 22 with 1214 viewsCrawfordsboot

Am I missing something here?

All these vets be they cooks, mechanics, musicians or troopers etc were paid to do a job that they entered into of their own free will.

This is not paid for by Government or train companies it is paid for by the taxpayer. i.e. other working folk.

Why should they receive it when a fireman, a nurse or other hardworking taxpayers do not. Shouldn't the discounts be applied to lower the cost of rail travel across the board for everyone.

This is not to denigrate ex service personnel in any way. I for one think that the mental health support for ex servicemen transitioning from a forces life to civilian is a disgrace. Dishing out discounted rail travel is little more than a diversion
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Here it is........some love for us. on 16:51 - Jan 22 with 1089 viewshampstead_blue

Here it is........some love for us. on 13:49 - Jan 22 by Crawfordsboot

Am I missing something here?

All these vets be they cooks, mechanics, musicians or troopers etc were paid to do a job that they entered into of their own free will.

This is not paid for by Government or train companies it is paid for by the taxpayer. i.e. other working folk.

Why should they receive it when a fireman, a nurse or other hardworking taxpayers do not. Shouldn't the discounts be applied to lower the cost of rail travel across the board for everyone.

This is not to denigrate ex service personnel in any way. I for one think that the mental health support for ex servicemen transitioning from a forces life to civilian is a disgrace. Dishing out discounted rail travel is little more than a diversion


I don't think it's used as a diversion.

We've been years behind the US on how veterans are looked after post discharge. This is one small step in catching up and doing small things to help.

There is a mental health service called TILLS for veterans. They don't queue like in a civvy hospital but have a dedicated treatment path with specially trained head people.

You can't compare the Armed Forces to the civvy emergency services. Very different on so many levels.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 16:53 - Jan 22 with 1082 viewsGeoffSentence

Here it is........some love for us. on 13:36 - Jan 22 by hampstead_blue

The cost of trains is horrific.
I've a meeting a Lotus cars and the train is £100 return from wiltshire and that's with a Railcard. I want to get the train, more relaxing and comfortable.

Crazy.


And imagine if there were more than one of you making the same journey.
Train would be ludicrously expensive compared to all piling in a car.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Here it is........some love for us. on 17:02 - Jan 22 with 1056 viewsBlockJJ

Joining the armed forces is a choice, and a job.

We all make a choice to work in specific industries. Why can't I get cheaper rail far for working in a different job?
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Here it is........some love for us. on 17:22 - Jan 22 with 1017 viewshampstead_blue

Here it is........some love for us. on 16:53 - Jan 22 by GeoffSentence

And imagine if there were more than one of you making the same journey.
Train would be ludicrously expensive compared to all piling in a car.


There's 5 of us! It's crazy expensive.

I love the trains......you can drink and be half cut by the time you get home....

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Here it is........some love for us. on 17:40 - Jan 22 with 984 viewsBrixtonBlue

Here it is........some love for us. on 16:51 - Jan 22 by hampstead_blue

I don't think it's used as a diversion.

We've been years behind the US on how veterans are looked after post discharge. This is one small step in catching up and doing small things to help.

There is a mental health service called TILLS for veterans. They don't queue like in a civvy hospital but have a dedicated treatment path with specially trained head people.

You can't compare the Armed Forces to the civvy emergency services. Very different on so many levels.


Can you explain your last two sentences?

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Here it is........some love for us. on 17:44 - Jan 22 with 972 viewsjontysnut

Here it is........some love for us. on 17:40 - Jan 22 by BrixtonBlue

Can you explain your last two sentences?


What is the armed forces? Yes some people do things I couldn't but quite a few haven't got further than Catterick
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Here it is........some love for us. on 19:21 - Jan 22 with 868 viewshampstead_blue

Here it is........some love for us. on 17:40 - Jan 22 by BrixtonBlue

Can you explain your last two sentences?


No.
If you can't figure it out for yourself then I can't help you.

You only ever throw bricks at my posts so I'm not disposed to explain the bleedin obvious to you.

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Here it is........some love for us. on 19:43 - Jan 22 with 828 viewseireblue

Here it is........some love for us. on 10:58 - Jan 22 by DanTheMan

I thought it was mainly used in jest because of the awful things he did.

Although Mussolini did use it as propaganda that his regime sorted the trains out but that's only partially true (and that's at a push).


Surely Mussolini would have got someone else to push his trains?


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Here it is........some love for us. on 19:47 - Jan 22 with 820 viewsBrixtonBlue

Here it is........some love for us. on 19:21 - Jan 22 by hampstead_blue

No.
If you can't figure it out for yourself then I can't help you.

You only ever throw bricks at my posts so I'm not disposed to explain the bleedin obvious to you.


As always, you can't explain when challenged.

I can't see any reason why ex-service personnel are more deserving of free trains than, say, nurses, but I'm open to any explanation.

It's really not bleedin' obvious, so please do explain.

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