| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:27 - Feb 3 with 6667 views | Guthrum |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:25 - Feb 3 by BlueBadger |
Ladies and gentleman, Guffers has pronounced. I declare this debate close. They're nazis, no ifs, no buts. |
They're white supremacist, jew hating, authoritarian, revolutionary. Pretty well covers it. |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:28 - Feb 3 with 6658 views | noggin |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich (n/t) on 18:24 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
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You don't get it do you? |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:29 - Feb 3 with 6661 views | lowhouseblue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 17:57 - Feb 3 by monytowbray |
And then everyone asks how this stuff is becoming the norm again.
In part because people want to play pedantic whatteraboutery or get more upset about the names associated with “elements of vs full blown” fascism rather than battling the early signs that result in being too far gone to fix it.
In the end I concluded anyone who didn’t instantly respond pointing out it is bad and not acceptable in that thread is a c*nt. I’m sure there will be people here soon to moan name calling is bad and cheapens debate, but to that I say perhaps if it bothers you be less of a c*nt by, you know, not giving racists a leg to stand on. [Post edited 3 Feb 2020 17:59]
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from dan's wiki link: "the Identitarian Movement in the UK is estimated to have a membership of less than 200 activists as of June 2019"
they are far right racists and clearly very unpleasant, but why give them more prominence than they deserve?
less than 200 activists doesn't equal "this stuff is becoming the norm again"
and far right racists doesn't equal fascists.
who does building these freaks up into some sort of national prominence benefit other than them? they are nasty social outcasts who go around sticking homemade labels to lamp posts. why give them more significance than that?
and using words properly does matter. [Post edited 3 Feb 2020 18:37]
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:30 - Feb 3 with 6650 views | monytowbray |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:29 - Feb 3 by lowhouseblue |
from dan's wiki link: "the Identitarian Movement in the UK is estimated to have a membership of less than 200 activists as of June 2019"
they are far right racists and clearly very unpleasant, but why give them more prominence than they deserve?
less than 200 activists doesn't equal "this stuff is becoming the norm again"
and far right racists doesn't equal fascists.
who does building these freaks up into some sort of national prominence benefit other than them? they are nasty social outcasts who go around sticking homemade labels to lamp posts. why give them more significance than that?
and using words properly does matter. [Post edited 3 Feb 2020 18:37]
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What about these stickers isn’t the behaviour of textbook fascists? |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:34 - Feb 3 with 6631 views | HARRY10 |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:20 - Feb 3 by hampstead_blue |
like the flood of turds which have over-run the Labour party since Comrade Corbyn took over!
This right wing vileness will always be there. It has no link whatsoever to BJ. |
Of course not, it just happens by mere coincidence that the far right as a whole have in recent months expressed their support for Johnson
Something they did not do for Cameron or May
"A Boris Johnson aide has sparked fury after suggesting the UK should have a "special relationship" with Hungary's far-right leader."
And there are no allegations waiting to surfacw of HJohnson accepting funding from dodgy right wing Russian billionaires
..............except for the easily available evidence that says there are |  | | |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:35 - Feb 3 with 6626 views | lowhouseblue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:30 - Feb 3 by monytowbray |
What about these stickers isn’t the behaviour of textbook fascists? |
i have previously given you the definition of fascist. it does't just mean racist or right wing. that you can't understand the definition isn't my problem. | |
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| Where to begin... on 18:39 - Feb 3 with 6620 views | Dyland |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich (n/t) on 18:24 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
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"... just as bad as saying that all Muslims should be guilty about terrorism because they are part of the same race."
Being Muslim is a religion, not a race.
"If you replaced 'white' with 'black' or 'gay' then the people putting the stickers up would be seen as heroes."
Gay, maybe. Black? Nonsense.
"It is literally just defending the white race"
Er, what? |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:40 - Feb 3 with 6610 views | SomethingBlue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:20 - Feb 3 by hampstead_blue |
like the flood of turds which have over-run the Labour party since Comrade Corbyn took over!
This right wing vileness will always be there. It has no link whatsoever to BJ. |
Its heightened visibility has every link to what has been unleashed and legitimised by Brexit. You have to own it I'm afraid. You voted for it. | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:42 - Feb 3 with 6600 views | noggin |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich (n/t) on 18:24 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
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"Defending the white race" from what exactly? | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:43 - Feb 3 with 6596 views | factual_blue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich (n/t) on 18:24 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
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There isn't a 'white race'. Just a human one. |  |
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| Where to begin... on 18:52 - Feb 3 with 6553 views | CokeIsKey |
| Where to begin... on 18:39 - Feb 3 by Dyland |
"... just as bad as saying that all Muslims should be guilty about terrorism because they are part of the same race."
Being Muslim is a religion, not a race.
"If you replaced 'white' with 'black' or 'gay' then the people putting the stickers up would be seen as heroes."
Gay, maybe. Black? Nonsense.
"It is literally just defending the white race"
Er, what? |
Post edited, appreciate the criticism Dyland  |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:53 - Feb 3 with 6542 views | CokeIsKey |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:43 - Feb 3 by factual_blue |
There isn't a 'white race'. Just a human one. |
I suppose racism cannot exist then if there is only one race? | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:55 - Feb 3 with 6527 views | jeera |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:53 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
I suppose racism cannot exist then if there is only one race? |
Context, as always, is everything. |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:59 - Feb 3 with 6520 views | GeoffSentence |
I'd never heard of that lot before Callis' thread the other day. I commented on that one that they hadn't made much of a noise round my way yet.
Well that didn't last long. It is spreading quickly.
You have to hand it to them, there is some intelligent work going on. The general tone of some of the messages is mild and almost innocuous. 'It is OK to be white' for instance, on the face of it that is relatively harmless, and yet it all builds up into something of a narrative. It is pretty much a guided narrative leading from 'it's ok to be white', to something more sinister. |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:04 - Feb 3 with 6491 views | m14_blue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich (n/t) on 18:24 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
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And here is a textbook example of how the far right seduce people. | | | |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:06 - Feb 3 with 6484 views | Trequartista |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:59 - Feb 3 by GeoffSentence |
I'd never heard of that lot before Callis' thread the other day. I commented on that one that they hadn't made much of a noise round my way yet.
Well that didn't last long. It is spreading quickly.
You have to hand it to them, there is some intelligent work going on. The general tone of some of the messages is mild and almost innocuous. 'It is OK to be white' for instance, on the face of it that is relatively harmless, and yet it all builds up into something of a narrative. It is pretty much a guided narrative leading from 'it's ok to be white', to something more sinister. |
It's a poor newspaper article. Just showing people the relatively inoffensive stickers, and effectively saying "trust us, there were some really bad racist ones" leaves it too open to interpretation. They should have shown the more offensive ones with appropriate pixellation/asterisks to leave it in no doubt for everyone. |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:06 - Feb 3 with 6481 views | jeera |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:59 - Feb 3 by GeoffSentence |
I'd never heard of that lot before Callis' thread the other day. I commented on that one that they hadn't made much of a noise round my way yet.
Well that didn't last long. It is spreading quickly.
You have to hand it to them, there is some intelligent work going on. The general tone of some of the messages is mild and almost innocuous. 'It is OK to be white' for instance, on the face of it that is relatively harmless, and yet it all builds up into something of a narrative. It is pretty much a guided narrative leading from 'it's ok to be white', to something more sinister. |
The problem is that those taking on board this absurd message that 'it's ok to be white', are overlooking that nobody said otherwise in the damned first place.
That's why people are still fighting for black rights, gay rights and all other rights that have been denied since [almost] ever in some parts.
That's the point.
I'm white. I'm not a fan of the 'white privilege' term. I've had to fight for every inch my whole life.
But then add on top of the crap I may have experienced with a darker skin and that could be increased tenfold.
These c***s aren't interested in that. Because they are trash. | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:27 - Feb 3 with 6407 views | Swansea_Blue |
Loads of this sh*t going on. What’s going on - empowered individuals, something more organised? |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:32 - Feb 3 with 6393 views | HARRY10 |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich (n/t) on 18:24 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
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{b}And how is a poster saying it's okay to be white bad exactly? If you replaced 'white' with something like 'gay' then the people putting the stickers up would be seen as heroes
because one is seeking to unify and remove supposed differences whereas the other is seeking the opposite | | | |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:33 - Feb 3 with 6389 views | factual_blue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:53 - Feb 3 by CokeIsKey |
I suppose racism cannot exist then if there is only one race? |
It's why racism is the preserve of very, very stupid people. | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:34 - Feb 3 with 6383 views | HARRY10 |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:33 - Feb 3 by factual_blue |
It's why racism is the preserve of very, very stupid people. |
that's blatant stupidism | | | |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:35 - Feb 3 with 6376 views | factual_blue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:34 - Feb 3 by HARRY10 |
that's blatant stupidism |
We cut stupid people too much slack as it is. | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:40 - Feb 3 with 6366 views | Dubtractor |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:06 - Feb 3 by jeera |
The problem is that those taking on board this absurd message that 'it's ok to be white', are overlooking that nobody said otherwise in the damned first place.
That's why people are still fighting for black rights, gay rights and all other rights that have been denied since [almost] ever in some parts.
That's the point.
I'm white. I'm not a fan of the 'white privilege' term. I've had to fight for every inch my whole life.
But then add on top of the crap I may have experienced with a darker skin and that could be increased tenfold.
These c***s aren't interested in that. Because they are trash. |
"The problem is that those taking on board this absurd message that 'it's ok to be white', are overlooking that nobody said otherwise in the damned first place."
Nailed it. |  |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:49 - Feb 3 with 6344 views | factual_blue |
| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 18:27 - Feb 3 by Guthrum |
They're white supremacist, jew hating, authoritarian, revolutionary. Pretty well covers it. |
And stupid. You missed out stupid. | |
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| White supremacy stickers in Ipswich on 19:53 - Feb 3 with 6335 views | GaryCooper |
There was a large NF contingent in Ipswich during the 1970s, was this due to our membership of the common market? |  | | |
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