| WTF is wrong with people? 09:31 - Jun 26 with 8475 views | StokieBlue |
Second night running that police have been attacked trying to disperse and illegal party in London:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/26/police-attacked-at-illegal-stree
Why are people acting so selfishly? The parties aren't allowed anyway and will cause issues with other parts of Europe already seeing a rise in cases of C19 and then to attack the police for trying to disperse them is totally unacceptable. There was a quote from the previous night where someone said something along the lines of: "It was all fine until the police started to try and enforce the law". I mean what on earth?
Then you have 500,000 people heading to the beaches in Dorset and once there complaining that people are idiots for crowding the beach whilst totally ignoring the fact they themselves were there to crowd the beach. They then leave tonnes of litter and it looks like they will force the closure of beaches.
Depressing.
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:23 - Jun 26 with 850 views | OhDavidMcgoldrick |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:09 - Jun 26 by Garv |
Humans tend to specialise in sh*tty behaviour. |
Is this just limited to the UK as a culture though or are other areas experiencing the same sort of stupidity?
I imagine countries such as France enforced far tougher protocols/punishments as this is reflected in their compliance. |  |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:26 - Jun 26 with 846 views | giant_stow |
I can't really blame thousands of people having the same idea on getting out to somewhere nice. It's been really tough obviously, but attacking police, leaving rubbish, fighting and crapping/pissing everywhere suggests we're a bunch of savages. |  |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:27 - Jun 26 with 834 views | footers |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:23 - Jun 26 by homer_123 |
So, a nanny state is needed then?
People need to take ownership and responsibility for their actions and consequences. I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of the population know full well what an illegal music festival might be.....
EDIT: spotted Bloots reply - you maybe referring to the beach bums.... [Post edited 26 Jun 2020 10:23]
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Yeah, was more concerned at the half a million building sandcastles than the kicking off at police. Although that is still a big problem.
As above, I do think people need to take responsibility, but what chance is there of that? Time and again people are proven to be selfish and beyond stupid. Maybe stricter measures and messaging would have helped. Who knows, but the genie's been out of the bottle for some time now and I think a second wave is just a matter of time. |  |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:29 - Jun 26 with 824 views | Mullet |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:15 - Jun 26 by StokieBlue |
Morning Footers.
Whilst the government messaging has been poor as you cite I don't recall them ever saying that illegal parties and attacking the police were the way to go.
Not everything can be pinned on the government, people need to take some responsibility for their actions as well and shouldn't be given an easy "out".
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I agree with you both to some extent. The type of people who were always going to take advantage of the government's ineptitude and corruption are the type that will have illegal parties.
It's a shame in these extraordinary times that we can't use extraordinary means to punish people breaking such rules. But the problem is it's become clear the government won't police themselves so how can it logically be applied to the rest of us?
People have seen we've had the piss taken out of us through people like Cummings et al. and that is always going to cause the most selfish and worst of behaviours.
I wonder if they could have used things like ANPR to issue fixed penalties for out of town cars had the government been clear an consistent. I believe they did that earlier in lockdown when you had people travelling hundreds of miles "to buy bread" etc.
Boris has dithered on health, dithered on the economy and it's allowed this big chasm where scummy behaviour just manifests itself all over.
The shootings in Moss Side were due to inter city gang problems (although that hasn't been widely reported yet). The young lad was coached football by my mate and the older bloke was there trying to calm the situation down after being called to go down there. Absolute tragedies, but you have to wonder why Police don't have the manpower to disperse the illegal raves that have been happening.
Unless you're aware of all the cuts the Tories made previously.
It's wrong that people have been stabbed, shot, raped and overdosed in Manchester alone in the past fortnight. It's wrong they attended these things too. Certainly personal responsibility plays a huge part, but when that doesn't come from the top and in fact the opposite does, how else are people going to react?
This feels like a disaster which has exposed just how much damage the Tories have done in government for years now. COVID was unavoidable but the level of deaths and civil unrest isn't in my opinion. |  |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:30 - Jun 26 with 818 views | homer_123 |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:27 - Jun 26 by footers |
Yeah, was more concerned at the half a million building sandcastles than the kicking off at police. Although that is still a big problem.
As above, I do think people need to take responsibility, but what chance is there of that? Time and again people are proven to be selfish and beyond stupid. Maybe stricter measures and messaging would have helped. Who knows, but the genie's been out of the bottle for some time now and I think a second wave is just a matter of time. |
Second wave was always inevitable. |  |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:32 - Jun 26 with 819 views | homer_123 |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:23 - Jun 26 by OhDavidMcgoldrick |
Is this just limited to the UK as a culture though or are other areas experiencing the same sort of stupidity?
I imagine countries such as France enforced far tougher protocols/punishments as this is reflected in their compliance. |
No - Italy saw mass protests, riots etc. during their much more severe lockdown.
Punishments were severe as well.
France similar(ish). | |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:33 - Jun 26 with 813 views | giant_stow |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:30 - Jun 26 by homer_123 |
Second wave was always inevitable. |
I think that's partly why people are getitng out now while they can. The thought's definately entered my mind that there's a probably limited window for a break | |
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| FFS, I agree with you..... on 10:34 - Jun 26 with 815 views | Bloots |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:26 - Jun 26 by giant_stow |
I can't really blame thousands of people having the same idea on getting out to somewhere nice. It's been really tough obviously, but attacking police, leaving rubbish, fighting and crapping/pissing everywhere suggests we're a bunch of savages. |
….I think that's twice now.
You appear to be saying that attacking the police is a bigger issue than people going on a beach!
Seems obvious to me, but not to others. |  |
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| Illegal parties in Liverpool last night too... (n/t) on 10:34 - Jun 26 with 807 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
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| FFS, I agree with you..... on 10:35 - Jun 26 with 805 views | giant_stow |
| FFS, I agree with you..... on 10:34 - Jun 26 by Bloots |
….I think that's twice now.
You appear to be saying that attacking the police is a bigger issue than people going on a beach!
Seems obvious to me, but not to others. |
So sorry mr - this must be very uncomfortable for you!
Seems clear enough to me too. | |
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| FFS, I agree with you..... on 10:37 - Jun 26 with 801 views | Mullet |
| FFS, I agree with you..... on 10:34 - Jun 26 by Bloots |
….I think that's twice now.
You appear to be saying that attacking the police is a bigger issue than people going on a beach!
Seems obvious to me, but not to others. |
There was widespread condemnation of the far right types attacking police the other weekend in fairness. I'm not sure anyone would be able to defend it in Brixton either would they?
The problem is the beach pictures are very compelling and show a massive potential for a huge rise in infection as well as the sight of litter and debris everywhere. A stark reminder of how bad things can be/might get. | |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:42 - Jun 26 with 788 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 10:14 - Jun 26 by footers |
Was always going to happen. And to think at the start of this there were people in the Prem talking about how football would change forever. You've got more chance of getting a blowjob from the Pope. [Post edited 26 Jun 2020 10:15]
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A bj from a (glorified) Catholic priest? You write as if that were a rarity. |  |
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| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:47 - Jun 26 with 781 views | Bloots |
| FFS, I agree with you..... on 10:37 - Jun 26 by Mullet |
There was widespread condemnation of the far right types attacking police the other weekend in fairness. I'm not sure anyone would be able to defend it in Brixton either would they?
The problem is the beach pictures are very compelling and show a massive potential for a huge rise in infection as well as the sight of litter and debris everywhere. A stark reminder of how bad things can be/might get. |
….it's plainly indefensible.
In my opinion, which is obviously of little or no value, people aren't going to beaches with the intent to break the law or purposely harming other people.
They are just stupid, inconsiderate turds that are fed up with it all, undoubtedly this feeling has been exacerbated by the incompetence of those in power.
But there is a very obvious reluctance to talk about the issues we've seen for the last two nights in Brixton.
The issue with beaches is one thing, civil unrest is another. | |
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| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:51 - Jun 26 with 771 views | footers |
| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:47 - Jun 26 by Bloots |
….it's plainly indefensible.
In my opinion, which is obviously of little or no value, people aren't going to beaches with the intent to break the law or purposely harming other people.
They are just stupid, inconsiderate turds that are fed up with it all, undoubtedly this feeling has been exacerbated by the incompetence of those in power.
But there is a very obvious reluctance to talk about the issues we've seen for the last two nights in Brixton.
The issue with beaches is one thing, civil unrest is another. |
I can't speak on the Brixton events as I haven't read enough to comment really, but what I can say is that a lot of the free party rave events that have been popping up around the country have a certain element of anti-government/anti-vax/NWO types who simply don't believe in covid anyway.
Obviously I'm not excusing their behaviour, but a lot of those nutters have been involved. I was even called a "liberal fascist" by these people the other day because I believe in wearing masks/social distancing. It's nuts! | |
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| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:55 - Jun 26 with 762 views | giant_stow |
| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:51 - Jun 26 by footers |
I can't speak on the Brixton events as I haven't read enough to comment really, but what I can say is that a lot of the free party rave events that have been popping up around the country have a certain element of anti-government/anti-vax/NWO types who simply don't believe in covid anyway.
Obviously I'm not excusing their behaviour, but a lot of those nutters have been involved. I was even called a "liberal fascist" by these people the other day because I believe in wearing masks/social distancing. It's nuts! |
liberal fascist?!
They got you wrong innit! | |
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| That doesn't surprise me..... on 10:55 - Jun 26 with 763 views | Bloots |
| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:51 - Jun 26 by footers |
I can't speak on the Brixton events as I haven't read enough to comment really, but what I can say is that a lot of the free party rave events that have been popping up around the country have a certain element of anti-government/anti-vax/NWO types who simply don't believe in covid anyway.
Obviously I'm not excusing their behaviour, but a lot of those nutters have been involved. I was even called a "liberal fascist" by these people the other day because I believe in wearing masks/social distancing. It's nuts! |
….and it's a shame that it won't only be them that suffer.
Maybe they'll have a "light bulb" moment like Novak Dickovic has just had.
But I'm pretty sure the issue in Brixton aren't down to anti vaxxers! | |
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| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:59 - Jun 26 with 755 views | footers |
| I'm sure nobody would defend it..... on 10:55 - Jun 26 by giant_stow |
liberal fascist?!
They got you wrong innit! |
Indeed. Loire Valley communist, me. | |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:17 - Jun 26 with 721 views | Illinoisblue |
Again, drone strikes are the answer. Give people one last chance to not be a litter-dropping thoughtless piece of s5it and then unleash hell. And televise it live so others get the message. |  |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:22 - Jun 26 with 723 views | monytowbray |
it's almost as if you undermine a whole section of society and throw them into poverty stuff gets a big restless.
We need to get angry at the cause and not the symptoms. In case anyone's not noticed, the world is falling apart in its current format. Populist right wing figures, corrupt government dealings on a global scale, international treaties and agreements breaking down, unstable global relations, mass misinformation campaigns by both the news and against the news.
In case you were wondering where your anger should be directed... by monytowbray 26 Jun 2020 11:21...you need to start punching up, for the sake of the planet's survival. Unless you want you and everyone you know to, ya know, die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXf6ygotBZ4
(8 minutes in for start).
100 SECONDS TO MIDNIGHT.
Summary: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51213185
I mean, you could also throw the Epstein stuff in too if you want to take it to an insane extra dimension. |  |
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| Sometimes people are solely responsible.... on 11:29 - Jun 26 with 705 views | Bloots |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:22 - Jun 26 by monytowbray |
it's almost as if you undermine a whole section of society and throw them into poverty stuff gets a big restless.
We need to get angry at the cause and not the symptoms. In case anyone's not noticed, the world is falling apart in its current format. Populist right wing figures, corrupt government dealings on a global scale, international treaties and agreements breaking down, unstable global relations, mass misinformation campaigns by both the news and against the news.
In case you were wondering where your anger should be directed... by monytowbray 26 Jun 2020 11:21...you need to start punching up, for the sake of the planet's survival. Unless you want you and everyone you know to, ya know, die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXf6ygotBZ4
(8 minutes in for start).
100 SECONDS TO MIDNIGHT.
Summary: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51213185
I mean, you could also throw the Epstein stuff in too if you want to take it to an insane extra dimension. |
….for their own actions.
You need to accept that, it'll be better for you in the long run.
I'm not going to get into this with you, it's a nice day.
Relax and enjoy it matey. | |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:31 - Jun 26 with 695 views | Illinoisblue |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:22 - Jun 26 by monytowbray |
it's almost as if you undermine a whole section of society and throw them into poverty stuff gets a big restless.
We need to get angry at the cause and not the symptoms. In case anyone's not noticed, the world is falling apart in its current format. Populist right wing figures, corrupt government dealings on a global scale, international treaties and agreements breaking down, unstable global relations, mass misinformation campaigns by both the news and against the news.
In case you were wondering where your anger should be directed... by monytowbray 26 Jun 2020 11:21...you need to start punching up, for the sake of the planet's survival. Unless you want you and everyone you know to, ya know, die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXf6ygotBZ4
(8 minutes in for start).
100 SECONDS TO MIDNIGHT.
Summary: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51213185
I mean, you could also throw the Epstein stuff in too if you want to take it to an insane extra dimension. |
What’s poverty about day trippers taking the train to Bournemouth and leaving food wrappers, drinks cans and human waste on the beach? | |
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| They can't afford bin bags, obviously! (n/t) on 11:34 - Jun 26 with 683 views | Bloots |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:31 - Jun 26 by Illinoisblue |
What’s poverty about day trippers taking the train to Bournemouth and leaving food wrappers, drinks cans and human waste on the beach? |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:36 - Jun 26 with 688 views | StokieBlue |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:22 - Jun 26 by monytowbray |
it's almost as if you undermine a whole section of society and throw them into poverty stuff gets a big restless.
We need to get angry at the cause and not the symptoms. In case anyone's not noticed, the world is falling apart in its current format. Populist right wing figures, corrupt government dealings on a global scale, international treaties and agreements breaking down, unstable global relations, mass misinformation campaigns by both the news and against the news.
In case you were wondering where your anger should be directed... by monytowbray 26 Jun 2020 11:21...you need to start punching up, for the sake of the planet's survival. Unless you want you and everyone you know to, ya know, die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXf6ygotBZ4
(8 minutes in for start).
100 SECONDS TO MIDNIGHT.
Summary: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51213185
I mean, you could also throw the Epstein stuff in too if you want to take it to an insane extra dimension. |
I don't think you can draw that correlation in such a linear way. Not all those doing the stuff outlined in this thread are in poverty. It's convenient to look at it that way especially with a certain world view but in reality it's excusing them from their own behaviour that is clearly not acceptable.
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:48 - Jun 26 with 660 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:22 - Jun 26 by monytowbray |
it's almost as if you undermine a whole section of society and throw them into poverty stuff gets a big restless.
We need to get angry at the cause and not the symptoms. In case anyone's not noticed, the world is falling apart in its current format. Populist right wing figures, corrupt government dealings on a global scale, international treaties and agreements breaking down, unstable global relations, mass misinformation campaigns by both the news and against the news.
In case you were wondering where your anger should be directed... by monytowbray 26 Jun 2020 11:21...you need to start punching up, for the sake of the planet's survival. Unless you want you and everyone you know to, ya know, die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXf6ygotBZ4
(8 minutes in for start).
100 SECONDS TO MIDNIGHT.
Summary: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51213185
I mean, you could also throw the Epstein stuff in too if you want to take it to an insane extra dimension. |
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| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:54 - Jun 26 with 660 views | monytowbray |
| WTF is wrong with people? on 11:36 - Jun 26 by StokieBlue |
I don't think you can draw that correlation in such a linear way. Not all those doing the stuff outlined in this thread are in poverty. It's convenient to look at it that way especially with a certain world view but in reality it's excusing them from their own behaviour that is clearly not acceptable.
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I feel it's pretty straight forward that civil unrest comes from unstable environments, politically and economically. That's what's happening in the USA right now. Although a race matter is leading the charge, it is a symptom of failed democracy, not a cause.
Yeah, there will be people who do stupid stuff, but these issues also distract from the overall issues. We aren't as extreme as the USA but we have our own systematic issues to deal with.
The wider UK reaction to a Bristol statue they'd never heard of until a couple of weeks ago shows a poor understanding of social issues - anyone with half a bit of knowledge of Bristol could tell you that statue was long overdue coming down, with over a decade of petitions and protest against it. Massive Attack have refused to play their hometown for years because of it. But then the story that gets pushed is "OMG ANARCHISTS", which also ironically fails to understand what Anarchy is. What the Sex Pistols defined as Anarchy isn't actually Anarchy. Anarchy is actually democracy in it's purest form (alas also a pipe dream that could never realistically happen overnight without a major shift in human compassion). | |
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