| Cancel culture 08:25 - Jul 8 with 20156 views | hampstead_blue |
Interesting and good that people with a voice are standing up to this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53330105
A lawyer on Today even floated the idea of cancelling ALL historical statues, paintings, and physical memorials because 'standards change and people whom today seem great may be hiding dark secrets'
Bonkers.
Am all for free speech. Owen Jones and his cabal can scream "offence" until their lungs turn inside out. Makes my blood boil if you hadn't guessed. |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
| | Poll: | Best Blackpool goal |
| |  |
| Cancel culture on 14:29 - Jul 8 with 724 views | LankHenners |
| Cancel culture on 14:21 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
what you're failing to grasp is that biological women don't exist any more, at least not as a category that matters. any one can now be a woman. it is the ultimate culmination of misogyny - define away biological women as an irrelevance and tell them to shut up. just another way in which people with penises get to set the rules. hurrah. |
Do you think there'll be a day when you won't make something up to get cross and/or sneer at? |  |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:30 - Jul 8 with 709 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:27 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
defining biological women away as a significant category - i can't think of anything more misogynist to be honest. |
What Lowhouseblue is able to think of isn't, luckily, the standard by which we can judge what is and isn't misogyny.
I'm not sure it's the standard by which we can judge anything to be honest. |  |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:31 - Jul 8 with 709 views | footers |
| Cancel culture on 14:29 - Jul 8 by LankHenners |
Do you think there'll be a day when you won't make something up to get cross and/or sneer at? |
Lowhouse will only be happy if nothing ever changes, ever.
Thankfully change is afoot without him and his ilk.
Choo choo :) |  |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:32 - Jul 8 with 692 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:31 - Jul 8 by footers |
Lowhouse will only be happy if nothing ever changes, ever.
Thankfully change is afoot without him and his ilk.
Choo choo :) |
He's still rebelling against the invention of the Caps Lock button, give him a few millennia and he will be all caught up with civil rights eventually. | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:34 - Jul 8 with 673 views | lowhouseblue |
| Cancel culture on 14:23 - Jul 8 by SpruceMoose |
Stick to your village hall echo chamber as you clearly have no insight into matters like this.
You've massively embarrassed yourself with that last post but no doubt you'll be too arrogant see it. |
you're really not the brightest are you. did the nasty scarey man say something too complicated for you? quick run back to face book and see if you can copy and paste an answer. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 with 651 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:34 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
you're really not the brightest are you. did the nasty scarey man say something too complicated for you? quick run back to face book and see if you can copy and paste an answer. |
Desperate. You're not a nasty man. You're an insignificant lightweight.
Luckily, assuming people can read, I'm happy to have my posts judged alongside yours for intelligent insight on this subject.
Oh and Facebook is where your age group goes for their news pops, not mine. Yet another thing you're clueless about. | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 with 649 views | lowhouseblue |
| Cancel culture on 14:31 - Jul 8 by footers |
Lowhouse will only be happy if nothing ever changes, ever.
Thankfully change is afoot without him and his ilk.
Choo choo :) |
and not one of you cool dudes can respond to the point made. quick we don't know the answer to that one so just shout him down and be a bit abusive. if we all say he's wrong then that must mean we're right - no need to think cos that's too scarey. oh and someone say something about caps lock.
i'll leave you all to telling each other you're right. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:39 - Jul 8 with 634 views | Libero |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
and not one of you cool dudes can respond to the point made. quick we don't know the answer to that one so just shout him down and be a bit abusive. if we all say he's wrong then that must mean we're right - no need to think cos that's too scarey. oh and someone say something about caps lock.
i'll leave you all to telling each other you're right. |
Before the thread plunges to silly depths, I'm more interested in someone explaining to me how or why I'm wrong, care to have a go lowie?
Are you one of those in favour of separate toilets for transgender people? Seems somewhat dehumanising to me. |  | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Cancel culture on 14:39 - Jul 8 with 635 views | giant_stow |
| Cancel culture on 14:21 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
what you're failing to grasp is that biological women don't exist any more, at least not as a category that matters. any one can now be a woman. it is the ultimate culmination of misogyny - define away biological women as an irrelevance and tell them to shut up. just another way in which people with penises get to set the rules. hurrah. |
'the ultimate culmination of misogyny'
I'm definately feeling uncomfortble watching a group of men tell a woman how she should feel about these issues.
Think there's truth in what you say, but have no idea how this one gets cleared up. 4th toilets aren't going to make trans people feel 'normal' or accepted, but why shouldn't a woman express her doubts about letting people with willies into their facilities, especially given the history of violence against women.
so difficult. |  |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:40 - Jul 8 with 632 views | lowhouseblue |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 by SpruceMoose |
Desperate. You're not a nasty man. You're an insignificant lightweight.
Luckily, assuming people can read, I'm happy to have my posts judged alongside yours for intelligent insight on this subject.
Oh and Facebook is where your age group goes for their news pops, not mine. Yet another thing you're clueless about. |
as i say, a $14.99 plus vat brain in a million dollar world. hey ho. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:41 - Jul 8 with 621 views | Herbivore |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
and not one of you cool dudes can respond to the point made. quick we don't know the answer to that one so just shout him down and be a bit abusive. if we all say he's wrong then that must mean we're right - no need to think cos that's too scarey. oh and someone say something about caps lock.
i'll leave you all to telling each other you're right. |
Your entire premise was based on you being a flouncey bellend rather than on reality. It's not worthy of anything more than ridicule and derision. |  |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:41 - Jul 8 with 620 views | footers |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
and not one of you cool dudes can respond to the point made. quick we don't know the answer to that one so just shout him down and be a bit abusive. if we all say he's wrong then that must mean we're right - no need to think cos that's too scarey. oh and someone say something about caps lock.
i'll leave you all to telling each other you're right. |
You can't even spell scary properly, so I'll leave you to brush up on five-letter words.
Choo choo :) | |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:43 - Jul 8 with 611 views | Libero |
| Cancel culture on 14:39 - Jul 8 by giant_stow |
'the ultimate culmination of misogyny'
I'm definately feeling uncomfortble watching a group of men tell a woman how she should feel about these issues.
Think there's truth in what you say, but have no idea how this one gets cleared up. 4th toilets aren't going to make trans people feel 'normal' or accepted, but why shouldn't a woman express her doubts about letting people with willies into their facilities, especially given the history of violence against women.
so difficult. |
I think you're very right, expressing your concerns regardless of their validity is your right as an individual, but implying an otherness in transgender women is out of order and suggesting they have their own bathroom is absolutely dehumanising in my opinion.
Many moons ago I had a piece of work that crossed over with Suffolk Rape Crisis, it was eye opening, I think maybe those who are concerned about random transgender men assaulting women in public bathrooms need educating not only about transgender issues but about rape/violence towards women. [Post edited 8 Jul 2020 14:48]
| | | |
| Cancel culture on 14:44 - Jul 8 with 609 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
and not one of you cool dudes can respond to the point made. quick we don't know the answer to that one so just shout him down and be a bit abusive. if we all say he's wrong then that must mean we're right - no need to think cos that's too scarey. oh and someone say something about caps lock.
i'll leave you all to telling each other you're right. |
Bully klaxon!
Nobody ever responds to your points because your points are always either incredibly stupid or nonsensical, and treating them with respect would be below any semi-sentient being.
The village marrow growers club might nod in all the right places while you drone on over tea and Battenburg, albeit with dead eyes and a desperate desire to be anywhere else rather than listening to you, but one can only imagine what they say about you after you've gone.
So, my advice to you would be to stick to your echo chamber mate, you'll be much happier there than out here in the real world. | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:45 - Jul 8 with 604 views | LankHenners |
| Cancel culture on 14:38 - Jul 8 by lowhouseblue |
and not one of you cool dudes can respond to the point made. quick we don't know the answer to that one so just shout him down and be a bit abusive. if we all say he's wrong then that must mean we're right - no need to think cos that's too scarey. oh and someone say something about caps lock.
i'll leave you all to telling each other you're right. |
There were pages of back and forth discussion between several posters on the subject before you jumped in late with a typically ill-informed comment.
Always laughable when someone who never engages or takes anyone else's points on board cries about other people not taking things seriously. | |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:46 - Jul 8 with 601 views | Libero |
| Cancel culture on 14:44 - Jul 8 by SpruceMoose |
Bully klaxon!
Nobody ever responds to your points because your points are always either incredibly stupid or nonsensical, and treating them with respect would be below any semi-sentient being.
The village marrow growers club might nod in all the right places while you drone on over tea and Battenburg, albeit with dead eyes and a desperate desire to be anywhere else rather than listening to you, but one can only imagine what they say about you after you've gone.
So, my advice to you would be to stick to your echo chamber mate, you'll be much happier there than out here in the real world. |
**TWTD BULLY CLAIM KLAXON FALSE ALARM**
You may only sound the klaxon if the words "bully" "bullied" or "bullying"are used. | | | |
| Cancel culture on 14:47 - Jul 8 with 591 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:45 - Jul 8 by LankHenners |
There were pages of back and forth discussion between several posters on the subject before you jumped in late with a typically ill-informed comment.
Always laughable when someone who never engages or takes anyone else's points on board cries about other people not taking things seriously. |
I think enough time has probably been spent on Steptoe now. I agree with Libby, the thread and the topic would be better served by ignoring his damp panted witterings and getting back to the subject at hand. | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:48 - Jul 8 with 584 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:46 - Jul 8 by Libero |
**TWTD BULLY CLAIM KLAXON FALSE ALARM**
You may only sound the klaxon if the words "bully" "bullied" or "bullying"are used. |
I feel we need to discuss this at the next AGM as once this rule is widely known people will be able to swerve round it quite easily. | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:48 - Jul 8 with 577 views | footers |
| Cancel culture on 14:43 - Jul 8 by Libero |
I think you're very right, expressing your concerns regardless of their validity is your right as an individual, but implying an otherness in transgender women is out of order and suggesting they have their own bathroom is absolutely dehumanising in my opinion.
Many moons ago I had a piece of work that crossed over with Suffolk Rape Crisis, it was eye opening, I think maybe those who are concerned about random transgender men assaulting women in public bathrooms need educating not only about transgender issues but about rape/violence towards women. [Post edited 8 Jul 2020 14:48]
|
It's almost if the point of transitioning is to be identified as your new chosen gender, not singled out for it. | |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:50 - Jul 8 with 566 views | giant_stow |
| Cancel culture on 14:43 - Jul 8 by Libero |
I think you're very right, expressing your concerns regardless of their validity is your right as an individual, but implying an otherness in transgender women is out of order and suggesting they have their own bathroom is absolutely dehumanising in my opinion.
Many moons ago I had a piece of work that crossed over with Suffolk Rape Crisis, it was eye opening, I think maybe those who are concerned about random transgender men assaulting women in public bathrooms need educating not only about transgender issues but about rape/violence towards women. [Post edited 8 Jul 2020 14:48]
|
I can see why Rorory would suggest a 4th toilet in fairness. It seems like sharing the women's is an unstoppable object vs and imovable one - it's a real clash of rights, so bang there's the solution. Except its not really a solution that can work for trans people.
Fcking nightmare.
Re the rape in the chnaging room hypothetical, I think there's a generational issue here which goes way beyond that scenario.
My mum for instance would probably be considered by many as a transphobe, but she fought her way through early life in a world where men controlled everything and she was expected to stay in the kitchen, not work and have babies quicktime. Having fought against that, she fights back against what she sees as men eating into hard-won rights that women like her made possible for following generations.
I don't think this is a simple right/wrong issue, like racism say. | |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:50 - Jul 8 with 566 views | Libero |
| Cancel culture on 14:48 - Jul 8 by footers |
It's almost if the point of transitioning is to be identified as your new chosen gender, not singled out for it. |
On a much more silly and light hearted note, this thread keeps making me think of this line in Step Brothers...
 | | | |
| Cancel culture on 14:53 - Jul 8 with 546 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:50 - Jul 8 by giant_stow |
I can see why Rorory would suggest a 4th toilet in fairness. It seems like sharing the women's is an unstoppable object vs and imovable one - it's a real clash of rights, so bang there's the solution. Except its not really a solution that can work for trans people.
Fcking nightmare.
Re the rape in the chnaging room hypothetical, I think there's a generational issue here which goes way beyond that scenario.
My mum for instance would probably be considered by many as a transphobe, but she fought her way through early life in a world where men controlled everything and she was expected to stay in the kitchen, not work and have babies quicktime. Having fought against that, she fights back against what she sees as men eating into hard-won rights that women like her made possible for following generations.
I don't think this is a simple right/wrong issue, like racism say. |
All I would say is that having lived through the age of both major civil rights suppression and civil rights moments, its a shame many older people can't channel that experience into having empathy for the people who are still fighting that fight rather than pulling up the ladder. | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:56 - Jul 8 with 520 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 14:53 - Jul 8 by SpruceMoose |
All I would say is that having lived through the age of both major civil rights suppression and civil rights moments, its a shame many older people can't channel that experience into having empathy for the people who are still fighting that fight rather than pulling up the ladder. |
Not sure what the downvote was for Ryorry. I didn't feel it too controversial to hope that some people who themselves have suffered discrimination develop a greater mindfulness about the suffering that still continues for others today, | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
| |
| Cancel culture on 14:57 - Jul 8 with 511 views | Libero |
| Cancel culture on 14:50 - Jul 8 by giant_stow |
I can see why Rorory would suggest a 4th toilet in fairness. It seems like sharing the women's is an unstoppable object vs and imovable one - it's a real clash of rights, so bang there's the solution. Except its not really a solution that can work for trans people.
Fcking nightmare.
Re the rape in the chnaging room hypothetical, I think there's a generational issue here which goes way beyond that scenario.
My mum for instance would probably be considered by many as a transphobe, but she fought her way through early life in a world where men controlled everything and she was expected to stay in the kitchen, not work and have babies quicktime. Having fought against that, she fights back against what she sees as men eating into hard-won rights that women like her made possible for following generations.
I don't think this is a simple right/wrong issue, like racism say. |
Do you not see how doing this would be no different to asking homosexual men to go to different toilets? It's dehumanising and a conscious "othering" of a minority.
The action of assuming a transgender woman is going to rape you purely because they (might) have a penis is not only logistically flawed but prejudice.
There's no actual data or facts to back up these irrational fears.
It's a more socially palatable "backs against the wall lads, X is coming in, don't want to get bummed"
Your Mum sounds like a cool woman, strong and determined and focused.
Women like that should be celebrated, that doesn't mean that if they think something that's a bit silly and ignorant we can't challenge it though.
No one should have immunity from having their prejudice checked.
Respect your response and appreciate the sensible debate. [Post edited 8 Jul 2020 15:03]
| | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
