| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game 16:40 - Sep 13 with 64888 views | carlisleaway |
Yes BLM but come on this was months ago |  | | |  |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 11:09 - Sep 14 with 2687 views | leitrimblue |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 22:17 - Sep 13 by eireblue |
Yes, as an example I apologised to a poster, for using the term "Brits", about british people.
They didn't like it, they thought it was a derogatory term.
I apologised, and don't use it to describe British people anymore.
This is really very simple stuff.
People can make mistakes, and realise that maybe, they should think a little bit more deeply about matters.
As others have said, there isn't a neutral stance, you are anti-racist, or racist.
What is the optimal frequency that BLM or Kick Racism out campaigns should be held.
Clearly, there is still racism, there have been anti-racism campaigns, so they have as yet, not been effective.
So, tomorrow is fine, when you are up and fresh.
What is the optimal frequency, that you as a white privileged person, suggest would work, you know, based on evidence? |
Come on, which one of these dry balled Brit snowflakes was offended? Name an shame |  | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 11:15 - Sep 14 with 2654 views | J2BLUE |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 11:03 - Sep 14 by 26_Paz |
Ok mate, no worries. Have a good day |
You too. |  |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 11:45 - Sep 14 with 2590 views | Ryorry |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 10:18 - Sep 14 by pointofblue |
26Paz - I can’t find the original post where you stayed you feel the impact will be reduced if the players keep kneeling to state that Black Lives Matter. I do agree with you that that is a possibility but the crucial thing for me is kneeling is no longer about impact; it’s about keeping the issue front and centre, not allowing it to go away as it did before, that it shouldn’t be a case of hand wringing for three months and then wait for the next needless death to start the cycle all over again.
There was a tongue on cheek thread started about the minute’s silence on November 11th, which is about remembrance. I’d argue kneeling is now taking on a similar tone - remember Black Lives Matter, remember what members of our so called equal society are still being subjected to on a day to day basis, remember change has been promised so many times yet had not been fulfilled, remember the lives so needlessly lost. Yes, as a nation, we could be much worse but that does not mean we shouldn’t strive to be better. |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:35 - Sep 14 with 2528 views | DecageBruce |
Some of the views on this thread have astounded me.
Paraphrasing from (I think) a comment on the ITFC Facebook page on the subject of the knee and BLM:
( If the original author is on here then let me know and I will happily assign credit.)
- All football league teams beginning with "I" have an automatic 10 point deduction at the beginning of each season. No one is quite sure of the reason but it is ingrained into the league structure and is the way it is. Teams beginning with "I" begin to protest about the unfairness of this as they are a team like every other in the league, not done any differently or wrong yet have an automatically penalty. They have to work 10 points harder each and every year to be treated as fairly as the other teams in the league. Some teams support the requested change as they agree that teams beginning with "I" should be on an even footing as all of the others whilst some teams think 'it's alright Jack' as i doesn't effect them directly. Why should teams beginning with "I" stop protesting until all teams in the league agree that this starting point is not correct and that all teams should start the season on a level playing field.
As a husband and father to people of mixed race I can tell first hand that there is still racism in England. I have mentioned before but these tend to fall into 3 categories.
1) Racist arseholes who are the scum of the earth and truly believe what they think
2) Misguided/unintelligent people who make comments not truly understanding what they mean or the impact. These people are usually 'one of the lads' who say something to keep in with their (class 1) mates or trying to get a laugh. When pulled up they tend to feel rather embarrassed
3) People who are uneducated in the PC world and what is and isn't acceptable to say.*
* I have fallen into this myself within the last 5 years. I was talking to a younger team mate who is mixed race and used the term 'halfcast'. It was a term I used as (totally incorrectly/ignorantly) I was under the impression that was the 'correct' term. Needless to say, on correction I profusely apologised for my ignorance and have not used that phrase again.
Regardless of whether the impact of the 'knee' does diminish is irrelevant for me as what it is highlighting is that some people are moaning about it. To feel the need to moan about it highlights an effect it is having on you personally and making you feel uncomfortable. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, good. If you don't see the need for it then it truly is a reflection on yourself, your view of the work and the lack of empathy held for your fellow human beings. |  | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:45 - Sep 14 with 2501 views | Swailsey |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:35 - Sep 14 by DecageBruce |
Some of the views on this thread have astounded me.
Paraphrasing from (I think) a comment on the ITFC Facebook page on the subject of the knee and BLM:
( If the original author is on here then let me know and I will happily assign credit.)
- All football league teams beginning with "I" have an automatic 10 point deduction at the beginning of each season. No one is quite sure of the reason but it is ingrained into the league structure and is the way it is. Teams beginning with "I" begin to protest about the unfairness of this as they are a team like every other in the league, not done any differently or wrong yet have an automatically penalty. They have to work 10 points harder each and every year to be treated as fairly as the other teams in the league. Some teams support the requested change as they agree that teams beginning with "I" should be on an even footing as all of the others whilst some teams think 'it's alright Jack' as i doesn't effect them directly. Why should teams beginning with "I" stop protesting until all teams in the league agree that this starting point is not correct and that all teams should start the season on a level playing field.
As a husband and father to people of mixed race I can tell first hand that there is still racism in England. I have mentioned before but these tend to fall into 3 categories.
1) Racist arseholes who are the scum of the earth and truly believe what they think
2) Misguided/unintelligent people who make comments not truly understanding what they mean or the impact. These people are usually 'one of the lads' who say something to keep in with their (class 1) mates or trying to get a laugh. When pulled up they tend to feel rather embarrassed
3) People who are uneducated in the PC world and what is and isn't acceptable to say.*
* I have fallen into this myself within the last 5 years. I was talking to a younger team mate who is mixed race and used the term 'halfcast'. It was a term I used as (totally incorrectly/ignorantly) I was under the impression that was the 'correct' term. Needless to say, on correction I profusely apologised for my ignorance and have not used that phrase again.
Regardless of whether the impact of the 'knee' does diminish is irrelevant for me as what it is highlighting is that some people are moaning about it. To feel the need to moan about it highlights an effect it is having on you personally and making you feel uncomfortable. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, good. If you don't see the need for it then it truly is a reflection on yourself, your view of the work and the lack of empathy held for your fellow human beings. |
I think this should just be the stock answer for this.
Along with this video: https://www.buzzfeed.com/kristatorres/burning-house-black-lives-matter |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:50 - Sep 14 with 2478 views | jaseitfc2015 |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:35 - Sep 14 by DecageBruce |
Some of the views on this thread have astounded me.
Paraphrasing from (I think) a comment on the ITFC Facebook page on the subject of the knee and BLM:
( If the original author is on here then let me know and I will happily assign credit.)
- All football league teams beginning with "I" have an automatic 10 point deduction at the beginning of each season. No one is quite sure of the reason but it is ingrained into the league structure and is the way it is. Teams beginning with "I" begin to protest about the unfairness of this as they are a team like every other in the league, not done any differently or wrong yet have an automatically penalty. They have to work 10 points harder each and every year to be treated as fairly as the other teams in the league. Some teams support the requested change as they agree that teams beginning with "I" should be on an even footing as all of the others whilst some teams think 'it's alright Jack' as i doesn't effect them directly. Why should teams beginning with "I" stop protesting until all teams in the league agree that this starting point is not correct and that all teams should start the season on a level playing field.
As a husband and father to people of mixed race I can tell first hand that there is still racism in England. I have mentioned before but these tend to fall into 3 categories.
1) Racist arseholes who are the scum of the earth and truly believe what they think
2) Misguided/unintelligent people who make comments not truly understanding what they mean or the impact. These people are usually 'one of the lads' who say something to keep in with their (class 1) mates or trying to get a laugh. When pulled up they tend to feel rather embarrassed
3) People who are uneducated in the PC world and what is and isn't acceptable to say.*
* I have fallen into this myself within the last 5 years. I was talking to a younger team mate who is mixed race and used the term 'halfcast'. It was a term I used as (totally incorrectly/ignorantly) I was under the impression that was the 'correct' term. Needless to say, on correction I profusely apologised for my ignorance and have not used that phrase again.
Regardless of whether the impact of the 'knee' does diminish is irrelevant for me as what it is highlighting is that some people are moaning about it. To feel the need to moan about it highlights an effect it is having on you personally and making you feel uncomfortable. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, good. If you don't see the need for it then it truly is a reflection on yourself, your view of the work and the lack of empathy held for your fellow human beings. |
Great post
Really well put. |  | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:52 - Sep 14 with 2469 views | eireblue |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 11:09 - Sep 14 by leitrimblue |
Come on, which one of these dry balled Brit snowflakes was offended? Name an shame |
It is alleged the human is still here, but posts under a different name now.
If true they may well be more relaxed about the use of the B-word. |  | | |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:14 - Sep 14 with 2417 views | GaryCooper |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:35 - Sep 14 by DecageBruce |
Some of the views on this thread have astounded me.
Paraphrasing from (I think) a comment on the ITFC Facebook page on the subject of the knee and BLM:
( If the original author is on here then let me know and I will happily assign credit.)
- All football league teams beginning with "I" have an automatic 10 point deduction at the beginning of each season. No one is quite sure of the reason but it is ingrained into the league structure and is the way it is. Teams beginning with "I" begin to protest about the unfairness of this as they are a team like every other in the league, not done any differently or wrong yet have an automatically penalty. They have to work 10 points harder each and every year to be treated as fairly as the other teams in the league. Some teams support the requested change as they agree that teams beginning with "I" should be on an even footing as all of the others whilst some teams think 'it's alright Jack' as i doesn't effect them directly. Why should teams beginning with "I" stop protesting until all teams in the league agree that this starting point is not correct and that all teams should start the season on a level playing field.
As a husband and father to people of mixed race I can tell first hand that there is still racism in England. I have mentioned before but these tend to fall into 3 categories.
1) Racist arseholes who are the scum of the earth and truly believe what they think
2) Misguided/unintelligent people who make comments not truly understanding what they mean or the impact. These people are usually 'one of the lads' who say something to keep in with their (class 1) mates or trying to get a laugh. When pulled up they tend to feel rather embarrassed
3) People who are uneducated in the PC world and what is and isn't acceptable to say.*
* I have fallen into this myself within the last 5 years. I was talking to a younger team mate who is mixed race and used the term 'halfcast'. It was a term I used as (totally incorrectly/ignorantly) I was under the impression that was the 'correct' term. Needless to say, on correction I profusely apologised for my ignorance and have not used that phrase again.
Regardless of whether the impact of the 'knee' does diminish is irrelevant for me as what it is highlighting is that some people are moaning about it. To feel the need to moan about it highlights an effect it is having on you personally and making you feel uncomfortable. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, good. If you don't see the need for it then it truly is a reflection on yourself, your view of the work and the lack of empathy held for your fellow human beings. |
Have you no comprehension how utterly offensive the term 'mixed race' is? |  | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:15 - Sep 14 with 2418 views | DecageBruce |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:14 - Sep 14 by GaryCooper |
Have you no comprehension how utterly offensive the term 'mixed race' is? |
Nope, feel free to enlighten me please | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:32 - Sep 14 with 2357 views | ROKERITE |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:14 - Sep 14 by GaryCooper |
Have you no comprehension how utterly offensive the term 'mixed race' is? |
So offensive that a fortnight ago Kick It Out's Troy Townsend referred to himself as mixed race and said it was perfectly acceptable and accurate. | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:32 - Sep 14 with 2362 views | MattinLondon |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:35 - Sep 14 by DecageBruce |
Some of the views on this thread have astounded me.
Paraphrasing from (I think) a comment on the ITFC Facebook page on the subject of the knee and BLM:
( If the original author is on here then let me know and I will happily assign credit.)
- All football league teams beginning with "I" have an automatic 10 point deduction at the beginning of each season. No one is quite sure of the reason but it is ingrained into the league structure and is the way it is. Teams beginning with "I" begin to protest about the unfairness of this as they are a team like every other in the league, not done any differently or wrong yet have an automatically penalty. They have to work 10 points harder each and every year to be treated as fairly as the other teams in the league. Some teams support the requested change as they agree that teams beginning with "I" should be on an even footing as all of the others whilst some teams think 'it's alright Jack' as i doesn't effect them directly. Why should teams beginning with "I" stop protesting until all teams in the league agree that this starting point is not correct and that all teams should start the season on a level playing field.
As a husband and father to people of mixed race I can tell first hand that there is still racism in England. I have mentioned before but these tend to fall into 3 categories.
1) Racist arseholes who are the scum of the earth and truly believe what they think
2) Misguided/unintelligent people who make comments not truly understanding what they mean or the impact. These people are usually 'one of the lads' who say something to keep in with their (class 1) mates or trying to get a laugh. When pulled up they tend to feel rather embarrassed
3) People who are uneducated in the PC world and what is and isn't acceptable to say.*
* I have fallen into this myself within the last 5 years. I was talking to a younger team mate who is mixed race and used the term 'halfcast'. It was a term I used as (totally incorrectly/ignorantly) I was under the impression that was the 'correct' term. Needless to say, on correction I profusely apologised for my ignorance and have not used that phrase again.
Regardless of whether the impact of the 'knee' does diminish is irrelevant for me as what it is highlighting is that some people are moaning about it. To feel the need to moan about it highlights an effect it is having on you personally and making you feel uncomfortable. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, good. If you don't see the need for it then it truly is a reflection on yourself, your view of the work and the lack of empathy held for your fellow human beings. |
A truly excellent post. Thank you. |  | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:02 - Sep 14 with 2300 views | leitrimblue |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 12:52 - Sep 14 by eireblue |
It is alleged the human is still here, but posts under a different name now.
If true they may well be more relaxed about the use of the B-word. |
As Englishman living in the north west of Ireland I absolutely love using the B word. Get the strangest looks whenever I give out about 'feckin Brits' in my pikey Essex accent | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:06 - Sep 14 with 2281 views | SpruceMoose |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:14 - Sep 14 by GaryCooper |
Have you no comprehension how utterly offensive the term 'mixed race' is? |
To white supremacists maybe. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:07 - Sep 14 with 2263 views | DecageBruce |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:14 - Sep 14 by GaryCooper |
Have you no comprehension how utterly offensive the term 'mixed race' is? |
I really thought I was at risk of a Whooosh here. I have PM'd you for my understanding | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:10 - Sep 14 with 2250 views | Herbivore |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 13:14 - Sep 14 by GaryCooper |
Have you no comprehension how utterly offensive the term 'mixed race' is? |
I think a lot of people prefer the term mixed or dual heritage, however I don't think it's right to say that the term 'mixed race' is utterly offensive. But you keep driving that whataboutery train, Gary, rather than positively contributing to the thread. |  |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:14 - Sep 14 with 2227 views | SpruceMoose |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:07 - Sep 14 by DecageBruce |
I really thought I was at risk of a Whooosh here. I have PM'd you for my understanding |
What you've done there is the forum equivalent of giving your phone number to the fella in the high street with the 'The End of the World is Nigh' sandwich board.
I'd look for another source if I were you! | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:43 - Sep 14 with 2170 views | DecageBruce |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:14 - Sep 14 by SpruceMoose |
What you've done there is the forum equivalent of giving your phone number to the fella in the high street with the 'The End of the World is Nigh' sandwich board.
I'd look for another source if I were you! |
Just interested in their take tbh.
Oxford English Dictionary
"mixed-race"
- adjective
- adjective: mixed-race
- denoting or relating to people whose parents or ancestors are from different ethnic backgrounds.
"mixed-race children"
My wife and children are the above by definition so I am happy with my use of the term (at present but will obvioulsy change if my understanding does) | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:51 - Sep 14 with 2136 views | eireblue |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:43 - Sep 14 by DecageBruce |
Just interested in their take tbh.
Oxford English Dictionary
"mixed-race"
- adjective
- adjective: mixed-race
- denoting or relating to people whose parents or ancestors are from different ethnic backgrounds.
"mixed-race children"
My wife and children are the above by definition so I am happy with my use of the term (at present but will obvioulsy change if my understanding does) |
You may find this useful.
http://www.mix-d.org/images/uploads/Glossary_of_Terms.pdf
From the website
http://www.mix-d.org/about/our-mission | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:54 - Sep 14 with 2127 views | Herbivore |
Wait, Gary was talking b0llocks? I for one am staggered. | |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:56 - Sep 14 with 2130 views | lowhouseblue |
great thread. i know the original post has to get a lot of the credit, but well done everyone. |  |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:58 - Sep 14 with 2119 views | DecageBruce |
Thank you for this
"Mixed Race: At the time of this writing, this appears to be the most popular term used by young people of mixed-race to describe themselves"
Glad I have the comprehension to know how utterly relevant the term 'mixed race' is to my family and friends. | | | |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:58 - Sep 14 with 2115 views | SpruceMoose |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:56 - Sep 14 by lowhouseblue |
great thread. i know the original post has to get a lot of the credit, but well done everyone. |
That's your contribution? 9 pages and that's the best you could come up with?
Well done Lowhouse, well done. Get this man a Caps Lock. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 15:00 - Sep 14 with 2101 views | lowhouseblue |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 14:58 - Sep 14 by SpruceMoose |
That's your contribution? 9 pages and that's the best you could come up with?
Well done Lowhouse, well done. Get this man a Caps Lock. |
sometimes not contributing is the most articulate contribution.
wouldn't a caps lock mean i only posted is capital letters. sounds a bit aggressive to me. | |
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| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 15:11 - Sep 14 with 2080 views | SpruceMoose |
| Why oh why do we continue with the knee before each game on 15:00 - Sep 14 by lowhouseblue |
sometimes not contributing is the most articulate contribution.
wouldn't a caps lock mean i only posted is capital letters. sounds a bit aggressive to me. |
If you're worried about your quality control I think you should consider adopting 'not contributing' as your default position moving forward.
Anyway, thanks for your input | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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