| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:33 - Oct 2 with 4508 views | brazil1982 |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:21 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
HAs to be sacked, it's utterly ludicrous (as Cummings should have been). Him not being sacked is no excuse for her not to be.
Could be a very interesting Labour v SNP by election too if she does go |
I'm pretty sure you cant be sacked as an MP. Constituents can call for a by election, or the MP can resign. |  | |  |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:38 - Oct 2 with 4499 views | Swansea_Blue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:33 - Oct 2 by brazil1982 |
I'm pretty sure you cant be sacked as an MP. Constituents can call for a by election, or the MP can resign. |
Yes, I think having the whip removed is as far as the party can go for now. Resignation or an effective sacking by contituents by recalling her would be the only 2 options (I think?). |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:53 - Oct 2 with 4488 views | 26_Paz |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:21 - Oct 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Sturgeon has very strongly condemned her (it's in the article you linked).
And the clamour for resignation has been pretty loud from all corners.
This isn't going the way you hoped is it? That's the trouble with trying to play this tribal game, rather than looking at each event on it's own merits. |
What are you talking about? I posted a link for discussion. What have I said on here that’s ‘tribal’? |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 09:05 - Oct 2 with 4475 views | Pinewoodblue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:38 - Oct 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Yes, I think having the whip removed is as far as the party can go for now. Resignation or an effective sacking by contituents by recalling her would be the only 2 options (I think?). |
Think you can only be recalled if you are convicted and receive a custodial sentence. She could b3 suspended by the speaker I suppose. |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 09:07 - Oct 2 with 4471 views | Swansea_Blue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 08:53 - Oct 2 by 26_Paz |
What are you talking about? I posted a link for discussion. What have I said on here that’s ‘tribal’? |
I thought you were being sarcastic in that post and your OP. Apologies if not. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 09:50 - Oct 2 with 4456 views | 26_Paz |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 09:07 - Oct 2 by Swansea_Blue |
I thought you were being sarcastic in that post and your OP. Apologies if not. |
No, I was just highlighting how stupid the individual MP was. I’m sure if she phoned up sturgeon and told her she was in London, had tested positive and needed to get home to isolate Sturgeon would have sanctioned the costs of a private vehicle on the SNP credit card to avoid the negative publicity! | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 10:18 - Oct 2 with 4440 views | Swansea_Blue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 09:50 - Oct 2 by 26_Paz |
No, I was just highlighting how stupid the individual MP was. I’m sure if she phoned up sturgeon and told her she was in London, had tested positive and needed to get home to isolate Sturgeon would have sanctioned the costs of a private vehicle on the SNP credit card to avoid the negative publicity! |
Ah yes, agreed. And yep, very stupid.
I'm not sure the one defence I've seen helps her much either 
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 10:19 - Oct 2 with 4440 views | Darth_Koont |
The SNP can’t make her resign but she’s had the whip removed, been suspended from the party and they are pushing for her to stand down as an MP.
We’ll have to see what Ferrier does. But she’s broken public trust in a time of crisis as well as being criminally negligent. So don’t see that she’s got a future as an MP or in the SNP itself if she doesn’t stand down. |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 10:38 - Oct 2 with 4415 views | Pinewoodblue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 10:19 - Oct 2 by Darth_Koont |
The SNP can’t make her resign but she’s had the whip removed, been suspended from the party and they are pushing for her to stand down as an MP.
We’ll have to see what Ferrier does. But she’s broken public trust in a time of crisis as well as being criminally negligent. So don’t see that she’s got a future as an MP or in the SNP itself if she doesn’t stand down. |
I hope she does resign her seat she is of no use to SNP now. Any resignation would put Pressure in Johnson, and to a lesser extent Starmer, to take action when the next idiot advisor, or front bencher , breaks the rules.
Starmer needs to ask Johnson at next PMQs to give an undertaking to sack anyone in his cabinet, or advisor, breaks the rules. The chances of anyone mistakenly breaking the main rules are minimal. Any such action would be wanton. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:02 - Oct 2 with 4403 views | Darth_Koont |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 10:38 - Oct 2 by Pinewoodblue |
I hope she does resign her seat she is of no use to SNP now. Any resignation would put Pressure in Johnson, and to a lesser extent Starmer, to take action when the next idiot advisor, or front bencher , breaks the rules.
Starmer needs to ask Johnson at next PMQs to give an undertaking to sack anyone in his cabinet, or advisor, breaks the rules. The chances of anyone mistakenly breaking the main rules are minimal. Any such action would be wanton. |
Yeah, I think that looks entirely the SNP’s position after Sturgeon, Blackford and others are saying she should resign.
Ferrier doesn’t have a leg to stand on but her standing down now would probably allow her some future involvement in politics and the SNP.
Although it wouldn’t surprise me if she tries to brazen it out as an independent. So far, the “right thing to do” doesn’t seem to have stood much chance against her selfish interests. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:05 - Oct 2 with 4397 views | BloomBlue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 10:38 - Oct 2 by Pinewoodblue |
I hope she does resign her seat she is of no use to SNP now. Any resignation would put Pressure in Johnson, and to a lesser extent Starmer, to take action when the next idiot advisor, or front bencher , breaks the rules.
Starmer needs to ask Johnson at next PMQs to give an undertaking to sack anyone in his cabinet, or advisor, breaks the rules. The chances of anyone mistakenly breaking the main rules are minimal. Any such action would be wanton. |
And I assume Boris will quite rightly reply to Starmer 'why didn't you sack Corbyn as he is a MP and broke the rules' |  | | |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 with 4383 views | hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:45 - Oct 2 with 4377 views | m14_blue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 by hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |
You don't think breaking the law and jeopardising public health in the middle of a pandemic should be a sackable offence?
I'm not one for witch-hunts but the response to this seems entirely proportionate to me, it's a pretty big deal.
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:51 - Oct 2 with 4374 views | TractorWood |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 by hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |
You can't hold public office whilst endangering the public. |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:56 - Oct 2 with 4372 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 19:24 - Oct 1 by 26_Paz |
This is worse than Cummings:
1. Cummings was in a car, this individual was on a public train.
2. She travelled the morning after receiving a positive test result. Beyond words stupid.
It’s also illegal now I think ... really don’t see how she can stay ... |
The government broke UK law before the election and nternational law after the election. Of course she has nothing to answer for.
On the other hand posturing SNP will want to do the right thing.... a by election with a hugely increased majority will do them no end of good... and might even produce an MP who has an iota of common sense and repsect for the electorate, let alone the law. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 12:12 - Oct 2 with 4361 views | giant_stow |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:02 - Oct 2 by Darth_Koont |
Yeah, I think that looks entirely the SNP’s position after Sturgeon, Blackford and others are saying she should resign.
Ferrier doesn’t have a leg to stand on but her standing down now would probably allow her some future involvement in politics and the SNP.
Although it wouldn’t surprise me if she tries to brazen it out as an independent. So far, the “right thing to do” doesn’t seem to have stood much chance against her selfish interests. |
I read she's 60 - maybe she's got an eye on being paid until a better retirement age and screw eveeryone else? Agreed this ins't on the SNP (which is a shame - arf!) |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 13:35 - Oct 2 with 4340 views | GeoffSentence |
There should be a clamour about this, and particularly in Scotland because up there the SNP are making the rules. It can't be one rule them and one rule for us. |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:23 - Oct 2 with 4325 views | Pinewoodblue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 by hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |
She did make a mistake. She willfully ignored the rules in several ways. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:27 - Oct 2 with 4319 views | giant_stow |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 by hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |
not sackable?! Her actions might conceivably cause death or serious illness to others on that train, cab/tube or parliment ffs! | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:33 - Oct 2 with 4315 views | Darth_Koont |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 12:12 - Oct 2 by giant_stow |
I read she's 60 - maybe she's got an eye on being paid until a better retirement age and screw eveeryone else? Agreed this ins't on the SNP (which is a shame - arf!) |
Think her retirement is secure as an ex-MP. But yeah, another 4 years until an election would fill the gap.
However, her constituents would undoubtedly force a by-election so it’s academic. Not sure she’s going to get a better result than taking full responsibility and standing down, and maybe getting a party job in return. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:37 - Oct 2 with 4313 views | itfcjoe |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:33 - Oct 2 by Darth_Koont |
Think her retirement is secure as an ex-MP. But yeah, another 4 years until an election would fill the gap.
However, her constituents would undoubtedly force a by-election so it’s academic. Not sure she’s going to get a better result than taking full responsibility and standing down, and maybe getting a party job in return. |
Being in a seat that was closely contested between Labour and SNP you can see why the leadership want her out ASAP - if she clings on and then goes the by election will be much tougher to fight |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:40 - Oct 2 with 4310 views | Darth_Koont |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:37 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
Being in a seat that was closely contested between Labour and SNP you can see why the leadership want her out ASAP - if she clings on and then goes the by election will be much tougher to fight |
Doubtful. Labour are even less likely to bring a candidate home in Scotland now. | |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 14:50 - Oct 2 with 4298 views | SpruceMoose |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 by hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |
Lol.
But Corbyn. |  |
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| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 15:07 - Oct 2 with 4279 views | eireblue |
| SNP MP Travels with Coronavirus on 11:41 - Oct 2 by hampstead_blue |
Can't sack her for that.
Why is every mistake a sackable offence! It's her livelihood for crying out loud. You can't take that away for a mistake.
Whatever happened to proportionate rollokings? |
When trolling, remember, it is other people that you are trying to make look stupid. |  | | |
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