| Been reading "The Mavericks" 10:58 - Oct 2 with 899 views | Radlett_blue |
and old book about some of the talented but rarely capped players on the 1970s. A couple of Town related titbits which I hadn't heard before:
1. Town director Eric Steel resigned not long after Ramsey had won the League on the basis of what he considered his negligent disinclination to bother with the youth team.
2. A bizarre allegation, supposedly made by Malcolm Allison, that Don Revie gave his old player Rod Belfitt £15k to throw a game against Leeds during the 1971-72 season. The big problem with this one is that Belfitt didn't join Town until after we'd played Leeds twice that season, in fact just after we'd drawn 2-2 at Elland Road. |  |
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I've been checking up in "The Men Who Made the Town" & it's true about Mr Steel's resignation & Tony Moyse said it was about our failure to refresh the squad. It was also noted that there wasn't much prospective talent coming through the Reserve & "A" teams - a classic Ramsey weakness given his later stubbornness about replacing some of his England favourites with younger players. |
I wasn't aware of that and makes interesting reading
Town have usually been thought of as a club that brings young players through even perhaps if they werent thought of a 'ready' ...... |  |
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I wasn't aware of that and makes interesting reading
Town have usually been thought of as a club that brings young players through even perhaps if they werent thought of a 'ready' ...... |
I'm sure this rings true and supports the notion that while Jackie Milburn had a truly abysmal record as Town manager & wasn't cut out for the job, he did introduce a better youth system, which bore huge fruit several years later. | |
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| Been reading "The Mavericks" on 11:45 - Oct 2 with 839 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Does it try and make out that the likes of Tony Currie, Stan Bowles and Alan Hudson were 'mavericks', rather then supremely talented players rather shamefully ignored by the England manager(s) of the day?
I hope there was a chapter on Robin Friday.... who was perhaps to mavericks what Hendrix was to guitar playing. |  |
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| Been reading "The Mavericks" on 11:45 - Oct 2 by ElephantintheRoom |
Does it try and make out that the likes of Tony Currie, Stan Bowles and Alan Hudson were 'mavericks', rather then supremely talented players rather shamefully ignored by the England manager(s) of the day?
I hope there was a chapter on Robin Friday.... who was perhaps to mavericks what Hendrix was to guitar playing. |
I've only read the first few chapters so only just starting the sections on specific players. The writer was critical of both Ramsey & Revie for their tendency to ignore the "flair" players & preferring workhorses. While Ramsey deserves a free pass for 1966, certainly his post 1970 England teams were often poor & I remember being unhappy when he kept picking players like Peter Storey & Norman Hunter in midfield. Revie actually wasn't much better, playing the likes of Trevor Cherry & Brian Greenhoff in midfield & had forgotten that he changed players almost as frequently as the derided Graham Taylor, who capped 60 different players in 38 games. In 29 games in charge, Revie fielded the same starting XI twice. [Post edited 2 Oct 2020 12:16]
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I've only read the first few chapters so only just starting the sections on specific players. The writer was critical of both Ramsey & Revie for their tendency to ignore the "flair" players & preferring workhorses. While Ramsey deserves a free pass for 1966, certainly his post 1970 England teams were often poor & I remember being unhappy when he kept picking players like Peter Storey & Norman Hunter in midfield. Revie actually wasn't much better, playing the likes of Trevor Cherry & Brian Greenhoff in midfield & had forgotten that he changed players almost as frequently as the derided Graham Taylor, who capped 60 different players in 38 games. In 29 games in charge, Revie fielded the same starting XI twice. [Post edited 2 Oct 2020 12:16]
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Yes indeed... I tended to have a bit more sympathy with Ramsey because he believed caps had to be earned, rather than tossed out like confetti... Revie was just odd.
I can still remember Hudson making his debut in spectacular fashion against by running the show and scoring against world cup winning West Germany. I think he got one more cap.
Currie too was sensational on his debut. My brother became a Sheff U fan after going to uni in Sheffield in the era when Currie, Woodward etc were in their pomp. I saw one game against Arsenal at Bramhall Lane where Currie paused mid-dribble to blow kisses to the crowd and even sat on the ball at one time as they cruised to vistory. I guess that showmanship qulifies him as a maverick, on reflection! | |
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| Been reading on 12:45 - Oct 2 by ElephantintheRoom |
Yes indeed... I tended to have a bit more sympathy with Ramsey because he believed caps had to be earned, rather than tossed out like confetti... Revie was just odd.
I can still remember Hudson making his debut in spectacular fashion against by running the show and scoring against world cup winning West Germany. I think he got one more cap.
Currie too was sensational on his debut. My brother became a Sheff U fan after going to uni in Sheffield in the era when Currie, Woodward etc were in their pomp. I saw one game against Arsenal at Bramhall Lane where Currie paused mid-dribble to blow kisses to the crowd and even sat on the ball at one time as they cruised to vistory. I guess that showmanship qulifies him as a maverick, on reflection! |
Geoff Hurst: 'See you next match, Alf'.
Alf Ramsey: 'If you're selected Geoffrey, if you're selected'. |  |
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Yes indeed... I tended to have a bit more sympathy with Ramsey because he believed caps had to be earned, rather than tossed out like confetti... Revie was just odd.
I can still remember Hudson making his debut in spectacular fashion against by running the show and scoring against world cup winning West Germany. I think he got one more cap.
Currie too was sensational on his debut. My brother became a Sheff U fan after going to uni in Sheffield in the era when Currie, Woodward etc were in their pomp. I saw one game against Arsenal at Bramhall Lane where Currie paused mid-dribble to blow kisses to the crowd and even sat on the ball at one time as they cruised to vistory. I guess that showmanship qulifies him as a maverick, on reflection! |
If a player did that now you’ll have the board blushing that that wouldn’t have been tolerated back-in-the-day and yet another example of the modern game being morally bankrupt. |  | | |
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Does it try and make out that the likes of Tony Currie, Stan Bowles and Alan Hudson were 'mavericks', rather then supremely talented players rather shamefully ignored by the England manager(s) of the day?
I hope there was a chapter on Robin Friday.... who was perhaps to mavericks what Hendrix was to guitar playing. |
Was it Stan Bowles who wore odd boots when he got his first cap so that he picked up sponsorship money from bots boot companies | |
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| Been reading on 15:11 - Oct 2 with 718 views | Radlett_blue |
| Been reading "The Mavericks" on 14:29 - Oct 2 by Keno |
Was it Stan Bowles who wore odd boots when he got his first cap so that he picked up sponsorship money from bots boot companies |
Yes, Stanley Bowles was contracted to Gola & was paid an extra £200 every time he played for his country where a sales rep simply turned up at the team hotel with a briefcase full of money for certain players.
“As an incentive, you used to get an extra fifty quid if a picture of you in a Gola t-shirt appeared in the paper, so I was always keen for a bit of that,” Bowles wrote in his autobiography.
So what was he supposed to do when someone from Adidas visited and began touting for business? Apparently they were offering players £250.
“Christmas has come early, thinks me,” the Loftus Road favourite said.
But his team-mates, who by this time were in hysterics, wanted to know what he was going to do when it was time to walk onto the pitch.
“For £450, I’ll wear one boot on each foot,” he told them.
“Nobody knew what I had done until a few days later, but it obviously didn’t go down too well when they found out.”
I'm sure the bookmakers were the ultimate beneficiaries of Stan's chicanery. [Post edited 2 Oct 2020 15:16]
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