| Free speech 23:36 - Nov 1 with 11536 views | airliner |
It’s obvious from all the people against me on here, hate Paul Lambert, the Tory government, and any differing opinion other than their own. It’s full of rabid socialists , who won’t allow anybody their own opinions. I have been called so many names I can’t count.
I respect your right to express but to be totally really rude and aggressively opposed to debate is wrong.
I respect your right to say what you want , being called a see you next Tuesday is wrong, even if you disagree and told to go forth and multiply. Get a grip. We live in a democracy, not a Stalinist state, where we are told to just shut up and be shot. I take your views on board and understand. |  | | |  |
| Free speech on 08:09 - Nov 2 with 1533 views | StokieBlue |
| Free speech on 00:45 - Nov 2 by airliner |
Not all and sundry just scientists who make whopping predictions and shut the country dow. They made one in March saying half a million would die? What happened there. Now it’s even more worrying . As most hospitality and airports and airlines will now fail . I have lost my job and many other colleagues. |
I'm sorry to hear that you've lost you job and I hope the you find something suitable as quickly as possible.
I don't however think that means you can post things which are totally untrue. You are taking figures totally out of context. If there was no shutdown then that could have happened.
You might not agree at this time but it's important to be truthful and present evidence for your opinions.
How would you have felt if I had posted a year ago that people shouldn't fly as because you are going so fast it reduces your lifespan? It's total nonsense but it's an opinion and one that you should have challenged me on had it happened because it's false and without evidence.
Good luck with your job search and hopefully you'll get something soon.
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| Free speech on 11:29 - Nov 2 with 1448 views | jaykay |
you beginning to sound like hampstead. you could always stick news comments you got a good score on your uppies there |  |
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| Free speech on 11:44 - Nov 2 with 1430 views | pointofblue |
I think it is natural that you, along with others who have lost their jobs, are going to be feel quite resentful towards the restrictions which have been put in place and feel like they’re having an unnecessarily large impact on your life, especially if you do not know of anyone who has suffered badly with, or passed away due to, Covid. However, that doesn’t mean that the data modelling is incorrect or that the threat is being over-exaggerated. One issue is the approach from those in power is so dismissive at times to the regulations that have been put in place that it is understandable that some may wonder whether it is serious as being presented (see Dominic Cummings and Margaret Ferrier) plus the regulations themselves can be unclear and, in some cases, non-sensical.
The sooner this can be controlled the sooner a sense of normality will return; unfortunately that does mean tough decisions will be made and the socialisation aspect of human behaviour will be put on the back burner. The government does need to do more to assist those who are struggling financially due to the restrictions, including the loss of their job, and I hope you are able to find employment again very soon. | |
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| Free speech on 11:47 - Nov 2 with 1432 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
No-one's stopped your free speech, as evidenced by the fact you're still posting this utter nonsense.
When everyone's disagreeing with your view, might it be pertinent to wonder if it's not because this board is full of Stalinist rabid socialists, but rather because you've got something wrong? |  |
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| Free speech on 11:48 - Nov 2 with 1425 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Free speech on 08:09 - Nov 2 by StokieBlue |
I'm sorry to hear that you've lost you job and I hope the you find something suitable as quickly as possible.
I don't however think that means you can post things which are totally untrue. You are taking figures totally out of context. If there was no shutdown then that could have happened.
You might not agree at this time but it's important to be truthful and present evidence for your opinions.
How would you have felt if I had posted a year ago that people shouldn't fly as because you are going so fast it reduces your lifespan? It's total nonsense but it's an opinion and one that you should have challenged me on had it happened because it's false and without evidence.
Good luck with your job search and hopefully you'll get something soon.
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That is a brilliant analogy and I'd love to see airliner's response. | |
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| Free speech on 11:49 - Nov 2 with 1424 views | J2BLUE |
| Free speech on 11:47 - Nov 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No-one's stopped your free speech, as evidenced by the fact you're still posting this utter nonsense.
When everyone's disagreeing with your view, might it be pertinent to wonder if it's not because this board is full of Stalinist rabid socialists, but rather because you've got something wrong? |
Many could do with taking that second paragraph on board...
I completely agree with your verbiage. |  |
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| Free speech on 11:51 - Nov 2 with 1418 views | monytowbray |
It’s not a matter of telling people to shut up if they disagree. It’s more a matter of debating fact and being able to argue a point with evidence.
Right wing populism has infected the world through the rise of misinformation, so it’s no surprise you’ve struggled to get your point across based on, ya know, political lies from Dear Leader.
The Stalinist state nonsense is pure projection. I’m technically a criminal in the eyes of the government just for supporting and attending eco protests - Another battle the right seem to think is about culture wars and oppressing their right to live rather than basing it on the fact if we don’t change how society works we won’t have one anymore in the next half century.
Your right to hate immigrants ain’t gonna save you from crop shortages.
O’ Brian nailed it.
Rather than getting upset perhaps read what’s being said, factor it into your own views and assess them? |  |
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| Agreed, continually arguing..... on 11:53 - Nov 2 with 1415 views | Bloots |
| Free speech on 11:49 - Nov 2 by J2BLUE |
Many could do with taking that second paragraph on board...
I completely agree with your verbiage. |
.....to the Nth degree does no good whatsoever.
People need to accept that they aren't always correct.
Some posters just bicker incessantly, leading to mammoth threads that just go round and round in circles.
There's often 5 a day. |  |
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| Free speech on 11:54 - Nov 2 with 1409 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Free speech on 11:44 - Nov 2 by pointofblue |
I think it is natural that you, along with others who have lost their jobs, are going to be feel quite resentful towards the restrictions which have been put in place and feel like they’re having an unnecessarily large impact on your life, especially if you do not know of anyone who has suffered badly with, or passed away due to, Covid. However, that doesn’t mean that the data modelling is incorrect or that the threat is being over-exaggerated. One issue is the approach from those in power is so dismissive at times to the regulations that have been put in place that it is understandable that some may wonder whether it is serious as being presented (see Dominic Cummings and Margaret Ferrier) plus the regulations themselves can be unclear and, in some cases, non-sensical.
The sooner this can be controlled the sooner a sense of normality will return; unfortunately that does mean tough decisions will be made and the socialisation aspect of human behaviour will be put on the back burner. The government does need to do more to assist those who are struggling financially due to the restrictions, including the loss of their job, and I hope you are able to find employment again very soon. |
I'm about to lose my job, and I don't personally know anyone who's suffered with or died from Covid, but I still respect the science, and thus the restrictions.
It's the people who aren't taking this seriously who piss me off the most and who I blame for me losing my job, because their idiocy and flippancy is what's prolonging this and ultimately crippling the economy. | |
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| Free speech on 12:25 - Nov 2 with 1376 views | StokieBlue |
| Free speech on 11:54 - Nov 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm about to lose my job, and I don't personally know anyone who's suffered with or died from Covid, but I still respect the science, and thus the restrictions.
It's the people who aren't taking this seriously who piss me off the most and who I blame for me losing my job, because their idiocy and flippancy is what's prolonging this and ultimately crippling the economy. |
Exactly and the Welsh First Minister agrees with you:
"My main message to people in Wales will be that, whatever the rules are after November 9, please don’t spend your time obsessing about the rules and asking how far you can stretch them. We will only get through this if each one of us asks not what can I do, but what should I do? If we do that, avoid company, travel as little as we can, work from home wherever possible, then we have a path out of this together."
Sorry to here about your job Dollers, I hope you find something soon and welcome back :).
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| Free speech on 13:14 - Nov 2 with 1317 views | pointofblue |
| Free speech on 11:54 - Nov 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm about to lose my job, and I don't personally know anyone who's suffered with or died from Covid, but I still respect the science, and thus the restrictions.
It's the people who aren't taking this seriously who piss me off the most and who I blame for me losing my job, because their idiocy and flippancy is what's prolonging this and ultimately crippling the economy. |
Apologies, I should have said ‘might be feeling resentful’ instead and I’m sorry to hear about your job. | |
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| Free speech on 13:17 - Nov 2 with 1306 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Free speech on 11:54 - Nov 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm about to lose my job, and I don't personally know anyone who's suffered with or died from Covid, but I still respect the science, and thus the restrictions.
It's the people who aren't taking this seriously who piss me off the most and who I blame for me losing my job, because their idiocy and flippancy is what's prolonging this and ultimately crippling the economy. |
Sorry to hear about your job Dolly, same to you as with airliner earlier in the thread, hope you sort something quickly |  |
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| Free speech on 13:18 - Nov 2 with 1308 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Free speech on 13:14 - Nov 2 by pointofblue |
Apologies, I should have said ‘might be feeling resentful’ instead and I’m sorry to hear about your job. |
I think you were probably right first time, going by his posting. | |
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| Free speech on 13:28 - Nov 2 with 1296 views | DanTheMan |
| Free speech on 06:03 - Nov 2 by BryanPlug |
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I've never understood this, how do you shout someone down on a forum? The idea of shouting someone down is that they can't respond. They can't shout you down when you can reply.
Often times people will respond negatively to ideas they disagree with. The more controversial the viewpoint, the more people will respond in the community you're in. I'd argue that (barring a few personal issues) people like Glassers and Bully despite being right wing didn't get these reactions because they were sensible in what they were saying.
I'd agree that this forum probably swings vaguely left, but I'd hardly call it "strong leftist" outside of a few posters.
For example, it looks as if the people who the OP is talking to are people like Stokie, who isn't exactly a Commie. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 13:34]
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| Free speech on 13:39 - Nov 2 with 1275 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Free speech on 13:17 - Nov 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Sorry to hear about your job Dolly, same to you as with airliner earlier in the thread, hope you sort something quickly |
The only saving grace is the redundancy package is very good. Not much around in advertising at the moment (even with Brexit, let alone Covid) so I'm gonna need it! | |
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| Free speech on 13:56 - Nov 2 with 1246 views | 26_Paz |
Unfortunately, there are those on here who think this forum is their own private what’s app group for them and their mates. They see anyone with different views as a threat to their monopoly and therefore abuse them to try and get them to leave. It’s a shame, really. |  |
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| Free speech on 13:58 - Nov 2 with 1241 views | StokieBlue |
| Free speech on 13:56 - Nov 2 by 26_Paz |
Unfortunately, there are those on here who think this forum is their own private what’s app group for them and their mates. They see anyone with different views as a threat to their monopoly and therefore abuse them to try and get them to leave. It’s a shame, really. |
You've said this at least 3 times on 3 different threads over the last 24 hours and it remains as untrue now as when you first said it.
If you spent as much time justifying your positions with evidence rather than moaning about other people then perhaps you wouldn't have this viewpoint and you wouldn't get as much stick as you do.
The bullying accusations are wearing a little thin.
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| Free speech on 13:59 - Nov 2 with 1230 views | noggin |
| Free speech on 13:56 - Nov 2 by 26_Paz |
Unfortunately, there are those on here who think this forum is their own private what’s app group for them and their mates. They see anyone with different views as a threat to their monopoly and therefore abuse them to try and get them to leave. It’s a shame, really. |
It's mostly not views but lack of evidence/facts that people have a problem with. |  |
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| Free speech on 14:00 - Nov 2 with 1228 views | jaykay |
| Free speech on 13:56 - Nov 2 by 26_Paz |
Unfortunately, there are those on here who think this forum is their own private what’s app group for them and their mates. They see anyone with different views as a threat to their monopoly and therefore abuse them to try and get them to leave. It’s a shame, really. |
as my old chap you say to me when i was a nipper in the 50s " stop playing the injured soldier" | |
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| Free speech on 14:06 - Nov 2 with 1215 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
I don't know what you have said, what was said in any other thread etc. Nor do I get involved or have any vested interest in politics.
But, in my opinion there is a little group on here who do seem to throw their toys out of the pram when someone is opposed to their opinion, and just instantly revert to hopping on the back foot with needless jibes. Can make it a tedious place at times, it what in reality should be a great place for fellow Town fans to come together.
It's nice to be nice, it's free to be nice. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 14:07]
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| Free speech on 14:13 - Nov 2 with 1202 views | noggin |
| Free speech on 14:06 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I don't know what you have said, what was said in any other thread etc. Nor do I get involved or have any vested interest in politics.
But, in my opinion there is a little group on here who do seem to throw their toys out of the pram when someone is opposed to their opinion, and just instantly revert to hopping on the back foot with needless jibes. Can make it a tedious place at times, it what in reality should be a great place for fellow Town fans to come together.
It's nice to be nice, it's free to be nice. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 14:07]
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Like I said, it's not opinions that cause the conflict but lack of facts/evidence. You can have an opinion that Norwood is better that Messi but you'll get called out on it because the evidence doesn't support it. | |
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| Free speech on 14:33 - Nov 2 with 1166 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Free speech on 13:56 - Nov 2 by 26_Paz |
Unfortunately, there are those on here who think this forum is their own private what’s app group for them and their mates. They see anyone with different views as a threat to their monopoly and therefore abuse them to try and get them to leave. It’s a shame, really. |
My view is that 26_Paz feck's badgers with spoons.* I know it might be a different opinion to some but I hope no-one abuses me for it as I have the right to free speech.
*And when he goes on holiday he does it to wombats as well. | |
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| Free speech on 14:33 - Nov 2 with 1164 views | noggin |
| Free speech on 14:33 - Nov 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
My view is that 26_Paz feck's badgers with spoons.* I know it might be a different opinion to some but I hope no-one abuses me for it as I have the right to free speech.
*And when he goes on holiday he does it to wombats as well. |
I agree. | |
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| Free speech on 14:35 - Nov 2 with 1159 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Free speech on 14:06 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I don't know what you have said, what was said in any other thread etc. Nor do I get involved or have any vested interest in politics.
But, in my opinion there is a little group on here who do seem to throw their toys out of the pram when someone is opposed to their opinion, and just instantly revert to hopping on the back foot with needless jibes. Can make it a tedious place at times, it what in reality should be a great place for fellow Town fans to come together.
It's nice to be nice, it's free to be nice. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 14:07]
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The problem is airliner's views aren't nice. In fact they're often downright offensive. | |
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| Free speech on 14:45 - Nov 2 with 1133 views | 26_Paz |
| Free speech on 14:33 - Nov 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
My view is that 26_Paz feck's badgers with spoons.* I know it might be a different opinion to some but I hope no-one abuses me for it as I have the right to free speech.
*And when he goes on holiday he does it to wombats as well. |
That’s your opinion mate and your welcome to it. Airliner is also welcome to his opinions | |
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