| Free speech 23:36 - Nov 1 with 11544 views | airliner |
It’s obvious from all the people against me on here, hate Paul Lambert, the Tory government, and any differing opinion other than their own. It’s full of rabid socialists , who won’t allow anybody their own opinions. I have been called so many names I can’t count.
I respect your right to express but to be totally really rude and aggressively opposed to debate is wrong.
I respect your right to say what you want , being called a see you next Tuesday is wrong, even if you disagree and told to go forth and multiply. Get a grip. We live in a democracy, not a Stalinist state, where we are told to just shut up and be shot. I take your views on board and understand. |  | | |  |
| Free speech on 17:21 - Nov 2 with 1624 views | DanTheMan |
| Free speech on 17:15 - Nov 2 by footers |
Whoever the OP is gets to nominate one combatant per side, plus a wildcard centrist. It could be fun, like Celebrity Deathmatch.
We could even run argument leagues, or do something like the US and Europe do in golf. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 17:16]
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The Lambert Out threads are going to get really boring soon, it'll just be Fishers posting it then one random person saying "maybe just one more game". |  |
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| Free speech on 17:23 - Nov 2 with 1606 views | jaykay |
| Free speech on 16:57 - Nov 2 by 26_Paz |
No, people have just had enough of your abuse |
what the people who answer their posts, as if they forgot what user name they logged in under. you all beginning to sound like the poster who was going to report ipswich town as people were correcting his opinions on here, which he tried use as facts. |  |
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| I don't think that can be my decision. (n/t) on 17:23 - Nov 2 with 1602 views | Bloots |
| Are you Captain material? (n/t) on 17:20 - Nov 2 by footers |
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| Free speech on 17:28 - Nov 2 with 1576 views | Blue12345 |
| Free speech on 17:14 - Nov 2 by DanTheMan |
Probably shouldn't get dragged into this, but how do you solve that?
Have a limit on people disagreeing per thread? The whole point of a forum is that anyone can reply. |
Disagreement isn’t the issue. For me it’s the way people go about it and whilst I respect a certain group on here have strong feelings towards things, trying to make other posters feel stupid for having a difference of opinion is not ok.
I have also seen time and time again this group of posters I have in mind discuss other posters by name who’s views disagree with theirs in a derogatory way which I do not like.
Whilst it may seem insignificant to some, we don’t know what each poster and fan is going through outside of the forum and so I think we should all be more respectful to one another on here. | | | |
| Free speech on 18:03 - Nov 2 with 1533 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Free speech on 17:28 - Nov 2 by Blue12345 |
Disagreement isn’t the issue. For me it’s the way people go about it and whilst I respect a certain group on here have strong feelings towards things, trying to make other posters feel stupid for having a difference of opinion is not ok.
I have also seen time and time again this group of posters I have in mind discuss other posters by name who’s views disagree with theirs in a derogatory way which I do not like.
Whilst it may seem insignificant to some, we don’t know what each poster and fan is going through outside of the forum and so I think we should all be more respectful to one another on here. |
It isn't usually a difference of opinion though, it's usually facts vs beliefs. If those relying on the latter are unable to accept facts because it doesn't suit their political viewpoint, it shouldn't be a surprise that they come in for criticism.
This forum is not Facebook where you can post any random sh1te; if you do that here, you get challenged, and the site is all the better for it. |  | | |
| Free speech on 18:07 - Nov 2 with 1521 views | jeera |
| Free speech on 16:36 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
You are being a little silly now, I would take a step back from responding to anymore of my threads.
You are clearly getting yourself worked up over something where it is not needed. |
Excuse me?
No, what's actually happened is you've popped by to do a bit of stirring where it wasn't needed.
And it's not your thread mate.
There you go. All fixed for you. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 18:09]
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| Free speech on 18:14 - Nov 2 with 1507 views | Trequartista |
Lots of fair answers saying that opinions should be challenged. Not many replies attempting to justify abusive replies though, which is in essence what this op is complaining about. |  |
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| Free speech on 18:17 - Nov 2 with 1505 views | jeera |
| Free speech on 18:14 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
Lots of fair answers saying that opinions should be challenged. Not many replies attempting to justify abusive replies though, which is in essence what this op is complaining about. |
The OP has offered his 'opinions' on this, spread over a number of threads.
Each time ignoring all polite reasoning coming his way in favour of blundering on regardless.
He then starts an actual thread calling out other posters.
How about criticising that instead?
Always the same, people dropping by after the event offering their own take. | |
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| Free speech on 18:22 - Nov 2 with 1493 views | Trequartista |
| Free speech on 18:17 - Nov 2 by jeera |
The OP has offered his 'opinions' on this, spread over a number of threads.
Each time ignoring all polite reasoning coming his way in favour of blundering on regardless.
He then starts an actual thread calling out other posters.
How about criticising that instead?
Always the same, people dropping by after the event offering their own take. |
When a new thread is started and a point is made, i think it becomes a general point, rather than a requirement for everyone to examine the posting history of the op.
Having said that, i did stumble across the op on a previous thread ...
"There should not even be a lockdown, it’s a complete over reaction"
to which the reply received was simply ...
"C***!" | |
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| Free speech on 18:28 - Nov 2 with 1469 views | SpruceMoose |
| Free speech on 18:22 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
When a new thread is started and a point is made, i think it becomes a general point, rather than a requirement for everyone to examine the posting history of the op.
Having said that, i did stumble across the op on a previous thread ...
"There should not even be a lockdown, it’s a complete over reaction"
to which the reply received was simply ...
"C***!" |
Think I deservedly upvoted that one... |  |
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| Free speech on 18:32 - Nov 2 with 1467 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Free speech on 18:22 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
When a new thread is started and a point is made, i think it becomes a general point, rather than a requirement for everyone to examine the posting history of the op.
Having said that, i did stumble across the op on a previous thread ...
"There should not even be a lockdown, it’s a complete over reaction"
to which the reply received was simply ...
"C***!" |
Based on the arguement that the OPs reaction being understandable based on losing his job maybe that response was understandable if someone had lost a loved one. |  | | |
| Free speech on 18:32 - Nov 2 with 1462 views | wkj |
Sounds to me like free speech is working well, you've aired your views, and others have replied in accordance to their own principles. If someone calls upon the government to arrest you for your views, let us know and we will stand with you against your freedom of speech and expression being repressed. |  |
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| Free speech on 19:00 - Nov 2 with 1419 views | N2_Blue |
| Free speech on 18:22 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
When a new thread is started and a point is made, i think it becomes a general point, rather than a requirement for everyone to examine the posting history of the op.
Having said that, i did stumble across the op on a previous thread ...
"There should not even be a lockdown, it’s a complete over reaction"
to which the reply received was simply ...
"C***!" |
And I do think he is a c**k because it was a horribly insensitive comment and his subsequent posts show a distinct lack of understanding.
The fact he can't understand why predicted numbers of deaths did not happen because action was taken to prevent them is so frustrating. It is why we have another pending lockdown, to control the virus and save lives. This action is potentially saving members of my family because if they contract COVID they will be seriously at risk. |  |
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| Bleedin' Centrists. (n/t) on 19:04 - Nov 2 with 1407 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Bleedin' Centrists. (n/t) on 17:19 - Nov 2 by Bloots |
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Centrists have dogs as well you know....... |  |
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| Free speech on 19:07 - Nov 2 with 1406 views | jeera |
| Free speech on 18:22 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
When a new thread is started and a point is made, i think it becomes a general point, rather than a requirement for everyone to examine the posting history of the op.
Having said that, i did stumble across the op on a previous thread ...
"There should not even be a lockdown, it’s a complete over reaction"
to which the reply received was simply ...
"C***!" |
Except the posting history you refer to was a cluster of posts throughout the same evening.
You cannot expect to behave like a knob and then start a thread complaining about the people you've pissed off.
It's ridiculous and even more stupid that some people have decided to stand up for it.
Look at matey there wading in telling everyone how to behave before then announcing that I should "step back from his thread".
Cos that's not at all controlling behaviour.
That was a weird insight. | |
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| Free speech on 19:08 - Nov 2 with 1408 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
You and everybody else are free to say what they like, within reason. No need to start a thread about it. |  | | |
| Free speech on 19:14 - Nov 2 with 1386 views | Ryorry |
| Free speech on 16:35 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
"I don't care what ****** said" - what I meant by that is I don't know what he said, it's nothing to do with me, I didn't mean that as he can say what he likes at it's ok, I just didn't know what was said.
If he has said the things you have suggested, I think they aren't needed, disturbing, insensitve, and very poor from airliner if true.
I've had work a work colleague who's mother passed from Covid, another in hospital for a period of time, I wouldn't dream of being insensitive to them.
I think my point is being misconstrued a little, I'm not defending this OP in particular, merely stating there is a problem with certain posters on here who don't like it when someone's opinion is different to their own, and often turn to personal insults. It's a shame really, should be a friendly place where ITFC fans come together.
Have a look at Bloots' previous post, summed up what my point was trying to be perfectly. No need for you to get angry or worked up. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 16:38]
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I think you rather summed it up there when you said
"Have a look at Bloots' previous post, summed up what my point was trying to be perfectly" -
- if you consider that nobody's arguing with him (and btw I agree with his post entirely, upped it).
You were saying something similar to him in several of your posts on this thread - but with one big differerence. That is, you may have thought you were making a point generally about posting in the forum, like a kind of philosophical abstract, but actually, without you apparently realising it, you were incorporating Airliner and his views into what you were saying simply by saying "I know nor care nothing about Airliner & his views". Which seemed to some like you were wilfully ignoring the context of the thread (even if it was accidental). |  |
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| Free speech on 20:47 - Nov 2 with 1311 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Free speech on 16:39 - Nov 2 by jeera |
"It's a shame really, should be a friendly place where ITFC fans come together."
Agree, they should. And they could start by not making insulting comments about people dying not mattering, because it doesn't affect them directly.
Nor making sanctimonious posts about other posters when they clearly no idea what has been said or taken place because they haven't bothered to look and just need felt the need to tag along at the end to have their say.
"I don't know what this is about, but I'm going to have my say anyway."
If there was ever an example of someone's opinion not being valid. |
I think you’ve got yourself so worked up here you’ve lost the plot a little.
I think if you read my posts, you will recognise that I’m in fact talking about TWTD as a wider community, and the way it is approached by certain posters when someone differs in opinion to them.
I wasn’t specifically talking about this OP, merely a sentence within their post which does have some truth to it.
Unfortunately for you, I’m well within my rights to post my “say” on any thread I choose, and there’s not a thing that you can do to prevent me doing so, and it’s no worse nor no better than your “say” on any given matter, just equal.
Crack a beer, enjoy your night. |  |
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| Free speech on 20:52 - Nov 2 with 1301 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Free speech on 20:47 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I think you’ve got yourself so worked up here you’ve lost the plot a little.
I think if you read my posts, you will recognise that I’m in fact talking about TWTD as a wider community, and the way it is approached by certain posters when someone differs in opinion to them.
I wasn’t specifically talking about this OP, merely a sentence within their post which does have some truth to it.
Unfortunately for you, I’m well within my rights to post my “say” on any thread I choose, and there’s not a thing that you can do to prevent me doing so, and it’s no worse nor no better than your “say” on any given matter, just equal.
Crack a beer, enjoy your night. |
What do you mean by "equal"? | |
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| Free speech on 20:53 - Nov 2 with 1299 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Free speech on 19:14 - Nov 2 by Ryorry |
I think you rather summed it up there when you said
"Have a look at Bloots' previous post, summed up what my point was trying to be perfectly" -
- if you consider that nobody's arguing with him (and btw I agree with his post entirely, upped it).
You were saying something similar to him in several of your posts on this thread - but with one big differerence. That is, you may have thought you were making a point generally about posting in the forum, like a kind of philosophical abstract, but actually, without you apparently realising it, you were incorporating Airliner and his views into what you were saying simply by saying "I know nor care nothing about Airliner & his views". Which seemed to some like you were wilfully ignoring the context of the thread (even if it was accidental). |
But I do not particularly care on a personal level about what he said (he’s clearly said something to upset some) because that is nothing to do with me, but by the same token I’ve certainly not associated myself with them apparent comments, which is what some are unfortunately missing.
I was merely referring to a small segment within his post, that certain people do not like it on here when someone differs with there opinion, unfortunately that is a reality of this board, and it’s a real shame.
An Ipswich Town forum that’s become more of a political playground full of shouting and abuse.
Not the way it should be in my opinion. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 21:00]
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| Free speech on 20:54 - Nov 2 with 1295 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Free speech on 20:52 - Nov 2 by Ewan_Oozami |
What do you mean by "equal"? |
Being the same in value. | |
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| Free speech on 20:55 - Nov 2 with 1291 views | SpruceMoose |
| Free speech on 20:53 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
But I do not particularly care on a personal level about what he said (he’s clearly said something to upset some) because that is nothing to do with me, but by the same token I’ve certainly not associated myself with them apparent comments, which is what some are unfortunately missing.
I was merely referring to a small segment within his post, that certain people do not like it on here when someone differs with there opinion, unfortunately that is a reality of this board, and it’s a real shame.
An Ipswich Town forum that’s become more of a political playground full of shouting and abuse.
Not the way it should be in my opinion. [Post edited 2 Nov 2020 21:00]
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You've not been here very long if that's what you think. It's always been this way. | |
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| Free speech on 20:57 - Nov 2 with 1279 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Free speech on 20:55 - Nov 2 by SpruceMoose |
You've not been here very long if that's what you think. It's always been this way. |
I’ve been posting since 2018, but reading for many year before, although predominately on the news section. Good bunch over that side of the fence. | |
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| Free speech on 21:01 - Nov 2 with 1271 views | 26_Paz |
| Free speech on 17:04 - Nov 2 by SpruceMoose |
No it's just you.
It's obvious what the new play is.
Step one) Post something that the vast majority of people object to. This could be because it is offensive, lacks any basis in reality, can't be backed up with evidence.
Step two) Ignore any replies that challenge your post. Refuse to engage with any questions or evidence presented.
Step three) Reassert original point enough times so that people begin to lose their rag with you.
Step four) Make the claim that the forum is an echo chamber and that it's full of intolerance.
Step five) Reassert original point even more times so that people really lose their rag with you.
Step six) Flounce off complaining that there was no need to be rude.
Repeat, For weeks and weeks and weeks. |
Having read this thread it sounds like it’s not just me |  |
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| Free speech on 21:03 - Nov 2 with 1266 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Free speech on 20:57 - Nov 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I’ve been posting since 2018, but reading for many year before, although predominately on the news section. Good bunch over that side of the fence. |
News posters?! 
I've always thought you were decent. That goes and ruins it  |  |
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