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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... 09:22 - Nov 26 with 702 viewsitfcjoe

..... “the vast majority” of areas previously in Tier 1 will be upgraded to Tier 2, with only some rural parts of eastern England, Cornwall and Cumbria getting away with the lightest restrictions


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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:26 - Nov 26 with 661 viewshype313

Think Hadleigh's recent outbreak has put pay to us going into Tier 1

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I was looking at the infection rate.... on 09:27 - Nov 26 with 665 viewsBloots

....a couple of days ago.

Pretty sure the last 7 day average data released shows Ipswich itself rising at 44%.

Albeit from a lowpoint in terms of numbers, but from what I gather they are taking the rate of increase/decrease as a more relevant indicator than the actual numbers.

Tier 2 is beckoning, but not in the way we'd like.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:46 - Nov 26 with 623 viewsSteve_M

Some data in the thread here, I think London is going to be Tier 2 because boroughs in the east are high and rising:


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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:49 - Nov 26 with 611 viewsStokieBlue

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:46 - Nov 26 by Steve_M

Some data in the thread here, I think London is going to be Tier 2 because boroughs in the east are high and rising:



I pretty much expect most of the country to be tier 2, London almost certainly.

Listened to Damian Green on Radio 4 this morning and he wanted tiering by boroughs which seems far too complicated to me. People would be crossing tiers all over the place.

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[Post edited 26 Nov 2020 9:49]

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:52 - Nov 26 with 589 viewsFtnfwest

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:46 - Nov 26 by Steve_M

Some data in the thread here, I think London is going to be Tier 2 because boroughs in the east are high and rising:



quite a bit of scotland still on the increase as well
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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:52 - Nov 26 with 592 viewswkj

No fingers crossed for anything, its all just a fiasco to dress up how far from in control of the situation the government are.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:04 - Nov 26 with 559 viewsBlueBadger

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:46 - Nov 26 by Steve_M

Some data in the thread here, I think London is going to be Tier 2 because boroughs in the east are high and rising:



It's felt a bit better 'on the ground' this week at [redacted] but I don't tend to pay attention to any numbers of cases other than what I'm directly dealing with.

We actually had more than one ITU bed available over my nights shifts this week, for starters.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:05 - Nov 26 with 550 viewshomer_123

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 09:46 - Nov 26 by Steve_M

Some data in the thread here, I think London is going to be Tier 2 because boroughs in the east are high and rising:



Damian Greene calling for Kent to allow different Tiering on a per per borough basis......on R4 this morning.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/mps-plea-for-district-tier-system-2379

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:06 - Nov 26 with 541 viewshomer_123

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:04 - Nov 26 by BlueBadger

It's felt a bit better 'on the ground' this week at [redacted] but I don't tend to pay attention to any numbers of cases other than what I'm directly dealing with.

We actually had more than one ITU bed available over my nights shifts this week, for starters.


Liverpool's numbers have dropped dramatically.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:07 - Nov 26 with 532 viewsBlueBadger

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:06 - Nov 26 by homer_123

Liverpool's numbers have dropped dramatically.


I don't tend to look at numbers any more, because there's always a natural 'lag' behind what the number of cases is doing compared to what's going on in hospitals.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:08 - Nov 26 with 526 viewshomer_123

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:07 - Nov 26 by BlueBadger

I don't tend to look at numbers any more, because there's always a natural 'lag' behind what the number of cases is doing compared to what's going on in hospitals.


Prison rate cases of Covid are sky rocketing.

Indeed re. the lag. Though they have gone from over 700 cases per 100,000 to around 70......

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:08 - Nov 26 with 524 viewsStokieBlue

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:06 - Nov 26 by homer_123

Liverpool's numbers have dropped dramatically.


As they should given tier 3 and the a lockdown.

I guess the worry would be an easing to tier 1 and then a quick rise again before the Xmas free-for-all.

The mayor of Liverpool was on the radio this morning saying that he felt Liverpool should probably be tier 1.

Interesting Germany are having none of it and have extended their "lockdown light" which seems to be essentially tier 3 until 20th December.

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[Post edited 26 Nov 2020 10:09]

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:10 - Nov 26 with 511 viewshomer_123

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:08 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue

As they should given tier 3 and the a lockdown.

I guess the worry would be an easing to tier 1 and then a quick rise again before the Xmas free-for-all.

The mayor of Liverpool was on the radio this morning saying that he felt Liverpool should probably be tier 1.

Interesting Germany are having none of it and have extended their "lockdown light" which seems to be essentially tier 3 until 20th December.

SB
[Post edited 26 Nov 2020 10:09]


I think he stated they should be Tier 1 if you took away the asymptomatic test results though?

And Merkel wants Ski Resorts to stay shut...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55081476
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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:12 - Nov 26 with 502 viewsfactual_blue

Rural Suffolk - tier one. Ipswich - tier two.


Absolutely def info.





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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:16 - Nov 26 with 488 viewsStokieBlue

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:10 - Nov 26 by homer_123

I think he stated they should be Tier 1 if you took away the asymptomatic test results though?

And Merkel wants Ski Resorts to stay shut...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55081476
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Why would you take away asymptomatic results? That makes no sense given those people are still contagious.

Obviously I understand why he would like tier 1 if possible but it doesn't seem particularly sensible, it'll be tier 2 for Liverpool.

Merkel is probably right isn't she? The ski resorts were basically the first mass vectors of spread. Lots of people from all over Europe spending a lot of time indoors isn't a great idea.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:16 - Nov 26 with 489 viewshype313

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:12 - Nov 26 by factual_blue

Rural Suffolk - tier one. Ipswich - tier two.


Absolutely def info.






Everyone will just descend on Ixworth, or will you all be standing at the entrance with pitch forks?

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:29 - Nov 26 with 443 viewshomer_123

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:16 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue

Why would you take away asymptomatic results? That makes no sense given those people are still contagious.

Obviously I understand why he would like tier 1 if possible but it doesn't seem particularly sensible, it'll be tier 2 for Liverpool.

Merkel is probably right isn't she? The ski resorts were basically the first mass vectors of spread. Lots of people from all over Europe spending a lot of time indoors isn't a great idea.

SB


That's literally what Joe Anderson said this morning on R4. Madness I know!

And yes, Merkel is right.....as usual.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:33 - Nov 26 with 427 viewsm14_blue

Where is that quote from Joe?

I thought they were reluctant to do anything more localised than at county level, although there may be some exceptions.

Debate up here is whether Cumbria is in 2 or 3 (high cases in Carlisle), barely anyone is expecting 1.
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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:35 - Nov 26 with 420 viewsEastTownBlue

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:16 - Nov 26 by hype313

Everyone will just descend on Ixworth, or will you all be standing at the entrance with pitch forks?


I believe that is reserved for their MP.
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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:48 - Nov 26 with 388 viewsSaleAway

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:16 - Nov 26 by StokieBlue

Why would you take away asymptomatic results? That makes no sense given those people are still contagious.

Obviously I understand why he would like tier 1 if possible but it doesn't seem particularly sensible, it'll be tier 2 for Liverpool.

Merkel is probably right isn't she? The ski resorts were basically the first mass vectors of spread. Lots of people from all over Europe spending a lot of time indoors isn't a great idea.

SB


The reason being - that it skews the figures compared to every other district.

Because liverpool has the lateral flow tests, which anyone can walk up and have, they will obviously have higher measured rates ( test more, know more)...

Essentially, if they have 100 cases per 100,000 including lateral flow tests, but if you took them out and it was 70, then the argument is that they should go into the same tier as another region with 70, as its likely their actual community rates will be the same

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:53 - Nov 26 with 373 viewsfactual_blue

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:16 - Nov 26 by hype313

Everyone will just descend on Ixworth, or will you all be standing at the entrance with pitch forks?


You've spelt 'with Browning Machine Guns' wrongly.


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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 11:13 - Nov 26 with 324 viewsJ2BLUE

Sky listed the lowest 10 areas in the country the other day and west, central and east Suffolk were all listed.

With that said, I wouldn't mind tier 2. We are nearing the end of this nightmare and if we can drive cases down a little more before Christmas then it would be good.

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 11:15 - Nov 26 with 311 viewsclive_baker

I knew this lockdown was going to end in tiers

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Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 11:31 - Nov 26 with 281 viewsStokieBlue

Fingers crossed for Tier 1... on 10:48 - Nov 26 by SaleAway

The reason being - that it skews the figures compared to every other district.

Because liverpool has the lateral flow tests, which anyone can walk up and have, they will obviously have higher measured rates ( test more, know more)...

Essentially, if they have 100 cases per 100,000 including lateral flow tests, but if you took them out and it was 70, then the argument is that they should go into the same tier as another region with 70, as its likely their actual community rates will be the same


That's not a good argument though.

A better argument would be that testing in Liverpool has proven we are missing loads of asymptomatic cases which will spread the infection and thus everyone should probably be bumped up a tier or at the very least there should be no tier 1 because their numbers aren't understating the reality of the situation.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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