| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:53 - Dec 2 with 1379 views | Herbivore |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 22:50 - Dec 1 by Simonds92 |
It's literally exactly the same thing that McCarthy did. Blaming fans for negativity and saying how difficult it is for the young kids to play in that atmosphere. Saying we were booing the young players at the end of the game when it was only when he came over. Creating a clear them vs us mentality, and im not sure why so many people are happy to overlook that and say he did such a good job. I wouldn't say that the current position between club and fans is as bad as it was then. Possibly because there's a lot more apathy around (which obviously is a very bad thing for the club). |
People say he did a good job because he did a good job. When fans are booing - and plenty on here confirmed some very negative noises being made when youngsters made errors - you can't just say that the boos were specifically aimed at the manager. Everyone hears them. And when you chant that the football is sh!te then even if you are saying it is the manager's footy that's sh!te it is still sending out a message to the players that you think they're playing sh!te. People still won't own that.
The big difference here of course is that nobody is booing at the ground or chanting that the football is sh!t and yet he is still trying to blame the fans. If he and the players are indeed reading social media they can clearly see that the ire is being directed primarily at the manager and owner. You can make that clear on a message board in a way that you can't by just going BOOOOOOOOOO. |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:54 - Dec 2 with 1379 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:53 - Dec 2 by Dubtractor |
Almost certainly this. |
I very much doubt it. Marcus is a very successful business owner, he'll know all about employment law.
Also, I give you exhibit A: our injury list. |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:59 - Dec 2 with 1355 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:50 - Dec 2 by Bluefish |
Or perhaps the legal basis for his sacking is very shaky and don't know how to deal with it |
It looks a lot like a compromise agreement. Within that will be an obligation on both sides (Henry and ITFC/Lambert) not to criticise the other. |  | | |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:01 - Dec 2 with 1337 views | Bluefish |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:54 - Dec 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I very much doubt it. Marcus is a very successful business owner, he'll know all about employment law.
Also, I give you exhibit A: our injury list. |
But you still have to follow a process, this isn't America where you can fire at will |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:02 - Dec 2 with 1337 views | Dubtractor |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:54 - Dec 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I very much doubt it. Marcus is a very successful business owner, he'll know all about employment law.
Also, I give you exhibit A: our injury list. |
Yes, he will know about employment law, which is exactly why he is on gardening leave and not sacked. |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:14 - Dec 2 with 1292 views | MrTown |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 23:17 - Dec 1 by MrTown |
Looks like he’s been down this road before... |
Some of the responses to that from Villa fans by the way:
"Thin skin has Paul. Talks a great progressive game. Delivers dour stodge."
""I thought we were excellent today" after every defeat!"
"Evidently little has changed"
"My least favourite Villa manager in my 40 years as a fan." |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:30 - Dec 2 with 1243 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I’m most concerned that he doesn’t seem to know what position in the table we are, thinks we’ve only lost 2 games and is clinging onto us being ‘4 points off top’ whilst conveniently ignoring that Hull have 2 games in hand on us
Just hurry up and f*ck off Paul |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:33 - Dec 2 with 1239 views | jeera |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:30 - Dec 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I’m most concerned that he doesn’t seem to know what position in the table we are, thinks we’ve only lost 2 games and is clinging onto us being ‘4 points off top’ whilst conveniently ignoring that Hull have 2 games in hand on us
Just hurry up and f*ck off Paul |
I know! Played more games than anyone else in the division.
We also have a sudden large gap in GD from the top that seems to have alarmly appeared too! |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:38 - Dec 2 with 1215 views | Herbivore |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:30 - Dec 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I’m most concerned that he doesn’t seem to know what position in the table we are, thinks we’ve only lost 2 games and is clinging onto us being ‘4 points off top’ whilst conveniently ignoring that Hull have 2 games in hand on us
Just hurry up and f*ck off Paul |
If the sides below us win their games in hand we'll be 10th and if the sides above us win there's then there will be a quite significant gap starting to open up. We're 18th in the form table, we've taken 10 points from our last 9 games. It is last season all over again with the difference being our good run of results has lasted half as long. He's utterly delusional and a complete prick to boot. [Post edited 2 Dec 2020 9:40]
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:43 - Dec 2 with 1185 views | footers |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 09:38 - Dec 2 by Herbivore |
If the sides below us win their games in hand we'll be 10th and if the sides above us win there's then there will be a quite significant gap starting to open up. We're 18th in the form table, we've taken 10 points from our last 9 games. It is last season all over again with the difference being our good run of results has lasted half as long. He's utterly delusional and a complete prick to boot. [Post edited 2 Dec 2020 9:40]
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Stop being negative. Look on the bright side.
You can prove anything with facts, everyone knows that. |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 10:04 - Dec 2 with 1141 views | jeera |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 00:02 - Dec 2 by Matt_Netherlands |
His line about how he’d hate to be married to Brenner, another Premier League manager said something similar recently about feeling sorry for the journalists wife.... but I can’t remember who?! It’s bugging me.
“Brenner, everything you say to me is negative. I’d hate to be married to you. Honestly.” |
The personal comments like that are bang out of order.
Just like the "Have you been drinking?" type shots he's taken before.
Very cowardly and unprofessional. | |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 10:10 - Dec 2 with 1121 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:53 - Dec 2 by Herbivore |
People say he did a good job because he did a good job. When fans are booing - and plenty on here confirmed some very negative noises being made when youngsters made errors - you can't just say that the boos were specifically aimed at the manager. Everyone hears them. And when you chant that the football is sh!te then even if you are saying it is the manager's footy that's sh!te it is still sending out a message to the players that you think they're playing sh!te. People still won't own that.
The big difference here of course is that nobody is booing at the ground or chanting that the football is sh!t and yet he is still trying to blame the fans. If he and the players are indeed reading social media they can clearly see that the ire is being directed primarily at the manager and owner. You can make that clear on a message board in a way that you can't by just going BOOOOOOOOOO. |
Not just that, but *they actively have to search it out*. It's not even the case that p!ssed up people are berating them at 2am in nightclubs in Town. People are social distancing, contact is minimal, there are no crowds booing, and they are not being accosted by drunk randoms.
Any criticism that is getting through to them is because they have gone looking for it. | | | |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 11:33 - Dec 2 with 1027 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 10:10 - Dec 2 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Not just that, but *they actively have to search it out*. It's not even the case that p!ssed up people are berating them at 2am in nightclubs in Town. People are social distancing, contact is minimal, there are no crowds booing, and they are not being accosted by drunk randoms.
Any criticism that is getting through to them is because they have gone looking for it. |
Maybe he thinks the cardboard cutouts are looking at him in a funny way. | |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 11:48 - Dec 2 with 981 views | Ryorry |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:47 - Dec 2 by Plums |
Perhaps. Just perhaps, Henry won’t be replaced because ME knows a new manager will bring his own team in so there’s no point in allowing PL to make an appointment? |
I wish - if only! |  |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 11:55 - Dec 2 with 962 views | Ryorry |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 08:54 - Dec 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I very much doubt it. Marcus is a very successful business owner, he'll know all about employment law.
Also, I give you exhibit A: our injury list. |
The "successful business owner" tag about ME has always puzzled me, because in his 13 years of running ITFC he's shown nothing but cluelessness, incompetence, lack of leadership of the right kind, and lack of imagination.
Leads me to think his building of his original empire may have been down to luck more than judgement; and that he's run out of luck. | |
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| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 13:54 - Dec 2 with 876 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| You though the Brennar stuff was bad, it gets worse to Stu Watson on 11:55 - Dec 2 by Ryorry |
The "successful business owner" tag about ME has always puzzled me, because in his 13 years of running ITFC he's shown nothing but cluelessness, incompetence, lack of leadership of the right kind, and lack of imagination.
Leads me to think his building of his original empire may have been down to luck more than judgement; and that he's run out of luck. |
Or maybe he's just good at corporate event hosting and rubbish at football club owning? | |
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