| I think we need the Cowleys 19:03 - Jan 27 with 3788 views | BryanPlug |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:06 - Jan 27 with 3101 views | NthQldITFC |
I agree, not that I know a massive amount about them, but they seem to be energetic, positive and enthusiastic about the bigger picture. Think that's just what the club needs right through it. |  |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:16 - Jan 27 with 3044 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Your right, but its the infrastructure that is the problem. The Cowleys like to build a club from the inside out. That means changes to general operations, and Evans has his own structure.
Our Chief Scout is Director of Football!!!
I can see the Cowleys refusing us because they will be too restricted in what they might do. |  |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:18 - Jan 27 with 3016 views | WD19 |
Paul Cook would probably be allowed to hire an assistant who is not a relative. Just saying. |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:25 - Jan 27 with 2973 views | BelsteadCav |
They would be my pick, would be a nice fit |  |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:27 - Jan 27 with 2949 views | moscow2000 |
Not happy with those 2 as an appointment
If they were any good surely they would have a job already, perhaps because they haven’t played at a high level they possibly don’t get the respect from the players that a higher profile manager would get.
Just asking |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:32 - Jan 27 with 2919 views | Vic |
That the Cowleys are being touted as our best option it’s another example of how we’ve fallen.
When Mick was on his way out some were suggesting the Cowleys should be appointed here. IIRC this suggestion was roundly condemned - style of play, one trick ponies, etc were cited. Now most seem to think they are just what we need.
Maybe they are - but how sad have we become! |  |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:37 - Jan 27 with 2887 views | BryanPlug |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:27 - Jan 27 by moscow2000 |
Not happy with those 2 as an appointment
If they were any good surely they would have a job already, perhaps because they haven’t played at a high level they possibly don’t get the respect from the players that a higher profile manager would get.
Just asking |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:39 - Jan 27 with 2876 views | BryanPlug |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:32 - Jan 27 by Vic |
That the Cowleys are being touted as our best option it’s another example of how we’ve fallen.
When Mick was on his way out some were suggesting the Cowleys should be appointed here. IIRC this suggestion was roundly condemned - style of play, one trick ponies, etc were cited. Now most seem to think they are just what we need.
Maybe they are - but how sad have we become! |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:15 - Jan 27 with 2782 views | Moriarty |
Imho, we shouldn’t go for the Cowleys.
Long ball at Lincoln and Huddersfield parted company with them because goals became hard to come by. We’ve been there, done that. Their video clips do nothing for me. My belief is if they come, “they’ll get us”, the reality will settle in and things will go stale. Their credentials are no better than Lambert when he arrived, or Hurst for that matter.
Go Dyer. One of our own. Doing great with the under 23s and, genuine club man, and as Phil said in another thread, he’s bright, sharp and will do very well when he gets his own club. Phil has heard very good reports from players who have worked with him in the academy. A path to continuity and renewal. Supporters will back him to the hilt and everyone, including players, will see what the club means to him. Don’t underestimate that.
Put faith in our own stock. Let’s back our own. A young bright manager with a future who’s doing great at our club and loves it? Dyer for me. All the way. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:19 - Jan 27 with 2742 views | NthQldITFC |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:15 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
Imho, we shouldn’t go for the Cowleys.
Long ball at Lincoln and Huddersfield parted company with them because goals became hard to come by. We’ve been there, done that. Their video clips do nothing for me. My belief is if they come, “they’ll get us”, the reality will settle in and things will go stale. Their credentials are no better than Lambert when he arrived, or Hurst for that matter.
Go Dyer. One of our own. Doing great with the under 23s and, genuine club man, and as Phil said in another thread, he’s bright, sharp and will do very well when he gets his own club. Phil has heard very good reports from players who have worked with him in the academy. A path to continuity and renewal. Supporters will back him to the hilt and everyone, including players, will see what the club means to him. Don’t underestimate that.
Put faith in our own stock. Let’s back our own. A young bright manager with a future who’s doing great at our club and loves it? Dyer for me. All the way. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:19 - Jan 27 with 2743 views | TractorCam |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:15 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
Imho, we shouldn’t go for the Cowleys.
Long ball at Lincoln and Huddersfield parted company with them because goals became hard to come by. We’ve been there, done that. Their video clips do nothing for me. My belief is if they come, “they’ll get us”, the reality will settle in and things will go stale. Their credentials are no better than Lambert when he arrived, or Hurst for that matter.
Go Dyer. One of our own. Doing great with the under 23s and, genuine club man, and as Phil said in another thread, he’s bright, sharp and will do very well when he gets his own club. Phil has heard very good reports from players who have worked with him in the academy. A path to continuity and renewal. Supporters will back him to the hilt and everyone, including players, will see what the club means to him. Don’t underestimate that.
Put faith in our own stock. Let’s back our own. A young bright manager with a future who’s doing great at our club and loves it? Dyer for me. All the way. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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They totally outplayed us in both FA cup games as a non league side, I don't recall much hoofing. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:41 - Jan 27 with 2655 views | Moriarty |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:19 - Jan 27 by TractorCam |
They totally outplayed us in both FA cup games as a non league side, I don't recall much hoofing. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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We were dire against them. Our record in the cup is atrocious. They had Matt Rhead. And an air raid siren. They were long ball, grafters.
I’m pretty sure our under 23s don’t play long ball.
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:55 - Jan 27 with 2610 views | Devereuxxx |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:15 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
Imho, we shouldn’t go for the Cowleys.
Long ball at Lincoln and Huddersfield parted company with them because goals became hard to come by. We’ve been there, done that. Their video clips do nothing for me. My belief is if they come, “they’ll get us”, the reality will settle in and things will go stale. Their credentials are no better than Lambert when he arrived, or Hurst for that matter.
Go Dyer. One of our own. Doing great with the under 23s and, genuine club man, and as Phil said in another thread, he’s bright, sharp and will do very well when he gets his own club. Phil has heard very good reports from players who have worked with him in the academy. A path to continuity and renewal. Supporters will back him to the hilt and everyone, including players, will see what the club means to him. Don’t underestimate that.
Put faith in our own stock. Let’s back our own. A young bright manager with a future who’s doing great at our club and loves it? Dyer for me. All the way. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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I don't think they were long ball merchants, more that they played a style of pragmatic football which was suited to the players they had. Which is surely what we are crying out for, playing a system and style which is suited to the 11 players on the pitch.
They also actually scout opponents and amend their tactics to nullify their strengths. Actual tactical preparation is what we need, and I'd be more than happy to see them at the helm. |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:01 - Jan 27 with 2448 views | Moriarty |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:55 - Jan 27 by Devereuxxx |
I don't think they were long ball merchants, more that they played a style of pragmatic football which was suited to the players they had. Which is surely what we are crying out for, playing a system and style which is suited to the 11 players on the pitch.
They also actually scout opponents and amend their tactics to nullify their strengths. Actual tactical preparation is what we need, and I'd be more than happy to see them at the helm. |
Mick was pragmatic. And a coach players respected and bought into. He had credentials. A playing career. A management career at a high level. Not perfect or a roaring success everywhere. You think the Cowleys are at his level?
Imho, the Cowley crush is a mix of exuberance and revisionism. I understand it. I don’t buy it. It’s got to the point of early Lambert “he gets us”. Myopia, imho.
I’m fed up of outsiders coming in to tell us who we are and where we should be. Why don’t we show them who and what we are? With one of our own at the helm? I refer again to Phil’s observations mentioned above.
Lambert is the antiBobby. It’s very understandable why we want him gone. Think back. What some said when Hurst arrived. And when the anti Bobby arrived. It’s on repeat, imho, if we go with Cook or the Cowleys.
Our club is bruised. I don’t think these long ball merchants (or pragmatists if you prefer) are what we need. Dyer played under Bobby. I think he’ll be a great tonic after the antiBobby is gone. He has a future. Let it be here. | |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:06 - Jan 27 with 2415 views | itfcjoe |
Either Cook or Cowley would be a real coup and are standout candidates, I’d go DC personally for the reasons you’ve suggested - we need someone to get us back on our feet |  |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:52 - Jan 27 with 2278 views | patrickswell |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:01 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
Mick was pragmatic. And a coach players respected and bought into. He had credentials. A playing career. A management career at a high level. Not perfect or a roaring success everywhere. You think the Cowleys are at his level?
Imho, the Cowley crush is a mix of exuberance and revisionism. I understand it. I don’t buy it. It’s got to the point of early Lambert “he gets us”. Myopia, imho.
I’m fed up of outsiders coming in to tell us who we are and where we should be. Why don’t we show them who and what we are? With one of our own at the helm? I refer again to Phil’s observations mentioned above.
Lambert is the antiBobby. It’s very understandable why we want him gone. Think back. What some said when Hurst arrived. And when the anti Bobby arrived. It’s on repeat, imho, if we go with Cook or the Cowleys.
Our club is bruised. I don’t think these long ball merchants (or pragmatists if you prefer) are what we need. Dyer played under Bobby. I think he’ll be a great tonic after the antiBobby is gone. He has a future. Let it be here. |
The Cowleys beat our best manager of the last decade in a cup tie. And when they got their opportunity to manage in the Championship a side that was struggling, they kept them up unlike the utter car crash of the Hurst era or the more experienced Paul Lambert.
They could do a good job based on their record so far, but it feels like no one can succeed here. |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:54 - Jan 27 with 2273 views | Parky |
This is just a personal opinion. - I would never appoint a manager on the back of a failure or a sacking. Whilst I fully appreciate the job the Cowley’s done at Lincoln, I don’t think I can class their work at Huddersfield as a success and it worries me that they were just suited to Lincoln.
Paul Cook would be my number one choice (I don’t think he’d come here) his last involvement in management, his Wigan team were playing excellent football and climbing up the Championship before the points deduction. He won promotion from League 2 and has won the League 1 title, so knows what it’s all about.
To be honest, I’d be grateful for a manager who can improve our players and get us competing and winning games consistently.
All this and Lambert isn’t going anywhere, is he? |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:01 - Jan 28 with 2101 views | tractorboy1978 |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:54 - Jan 27 by Parky |
This is just a personal opinion. - I would never appoint a manager on the back of a failure or a sacking. Whilst I fully appreciate the job the Cowley’s done at Lincoln, I don’t think I can class their work at Huddersfield as a success and it worries me that they were just suited to Lincoln.
Paul Cook would be my number one choice (I don’t think he’d come here) his last involvement in management, his Wigan team were playing excellent football and climbing up the Championship before the points deduction. He won promotion from League 2 and has won the League 1 title, so knows what it’s all about.
To be honest, I’d be grateful for a manager who can improve our players and get us competing and winning games consistently.
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I think you underestimate how poor Huddersfield were - they had 1 point from their first 8 games when the Cowleys went in off the back of a season getting pummelled in the Prem. They'd forgotten how to win and the Cowleys turned them around quickly.
It probably wouldn't be champagne football but they are pragmatic and get the best out of the components they have. They are tactically astute and know how to organise and communicate what they want from the players. | | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:15 - Jan 28 with 2064 views | GeoffSentence |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:37 - Jan 27 by BryanPlug |
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Lambert has played at a high level?
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:37 - Jan 28 with 2025 views | BryanPlug |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:41 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
We were dire against them. Our record in the cup is atrocious. They had Matt Rhead. And an air raid siren. They were long ball, grafters.
I’m pretty sure our under 23s don’t play long ball.
My natural loyalty is to our own. |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:45 - Jan 28 with 2008 views | MonkeyAlan |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 19:27 - Jan 27 by moscow2000 |
Not happy with those 2 as an appointment
If they were any good surely they would have a job already, perhaps because they haven’t played at a high level they possibly don’t get the respect from the players that a higher profile manager would get.
Just asking |
Agreed. I'm not a fan. Don't think they are the answer. But who is? With Evans pulling the strings no one can be successful. |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:49 - Jan 28 with 1981 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 22:54 - Jan 27 by Parky |
This is just a personal opinion. - I would never appoint a manager on the back of a failure or a sacking. Whilst I fully appreciate the job the Cowley’s done at Lincoln, I don’t think I can class their work at Huddersfield as a success and it worries me that they were just suited to Lincoln.
Paul Cook would be my number one choice (I don’t think he’d come here) his last involvement in management, his Wigan team were playing excellent football and climbing up the Championship before the points deduction. He won promotion from League 2 and has won the League 1 title, so knows what it’s all about.
To be honest, I’d be grateful for a manager who can improve our players and get us competing and winning games consistently.
All this and Lambert isn’t going anywhere, is he? |
You know McCarthy was sacked by Wolves for pretty much relegating them, before he came to us? Right? | |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:50 - Jan 28 with 1979 views | mikeybloo88 |
Getting in one of your own who loves the club doesn't always work out, does it Frank?
Being in Lincoln, I saw a lot of the games and what the Cowleys did for the club and the community. The enthusiasm they generated around the place was incredible, the football was far from continual hoof ball, tactically they were very good and Lincoln people generally,even those who didn't follow football, were gutted when they left. They created all the foundations of that club which Appleton is now building on.
I'd love to have them at Ipswich and I'd be confident that, given the opportunity to do things their way and clear out the dross, they'd get us back to top half Championship in three years. |  | | |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:53 - Jan 28 with 1958 views | Kieran_Knows |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:15 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
Imho, we shouldn’t go for the Cowleys.
Long ball at Lincoln and Huddersfield parted company with them because goals became hard to come by. We’ve been there, done that. Their video clips do nothing for me. My belief is if they come, “they’ll get us”, the reality will settle in and things will go stale. Their credentials are no better than Lambert when he arrived, or Hurst for that matter.
Go Dyer. One of our own. Doing great with the under 23s and, genuine club man, and as Phil said in another thread, he’s bright, sharp and will do very well when he gets his own club. Phil has heard very good reports from players who have worked with him in the academy. A path to continuity and renewal. Supporters will back him to the hilt and everyone, including players, will see what the club means to him. Don’t underestimate that.
Put faith in our own stock. Let’s back our own. A young bright manager with a future who’s doing great at our club and loves it? Dyer for me. All the way. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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Unless I'm mistaken, I thought the Cowleys were sacked because they weren't prepared to work under the Sporting Director model that Huddersfield have in place there? Could've sworn I read they wanted to buy more British players, but Huddersfield wanted to go down the data/European route when signing new players with this Sporting Director? |  |
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| I think we need the Cowleys on 08:58 - Jan 28 with 1925 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I think we need the Cowleys on 20:15 - Jan 27 by Moriarty |
Imho, we shouldn’t go for the Cowleys.
Long ball at Lincoln and Huddersfield parted company with them because goals became hard to come by. We’ve been there, done that. Their video clips do nothing for me. My belief is if they come, “they’ll get us”, the reality will settle in and things will go stale. Their credentials are no better than Lambert when he arrived, or Hurst for that matter.
Go Dyer. One of our own. Doing great with the under 23s and, genuine club man, and as Phil said in another thread, he’s bright, sharp and will do very well when he gets his own club. Phil has heard very good reports from players who have worked with him in the academy. A path to continuity and renewal. Supporters will back him to the hilt and everyone, including players, will see what the club means to him. Don’t underestimate that.
Put faith in our own stock. Let’s back our own. A young bright manager with a future who’s doing great at our club and loves it? Dyer for me. All the way. [Post edited 27 Jan 2021 20:19]
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You've sold it to me. Dyer's been talked about for a while now and at the start I wasn't convinced his name was popping up just because of who he was as a player. And this was also back in the Championship when the challenge would have been tougher.
But we've moved on now and he's got more experience in the role. He's shown consistently that he can get a team playing decent football, winning games and importantly looking like they want to be out there. I don't know enough about his managerial traits to know if that's down to his emotional intelligence and relationship with the players or if his backroom staff are also important in this. But he/they are doing something right.
I wouldn't partner him with anyone either as some have suggested. That would just undermine him. He's got some good people in the club he can always turn to for advice (Klugg, Butcher, Warky). If he needs to. There are some decent managers out there who started off with as much or less experience Dyer has. The risk of giving him a chance seems to be getting smaller imo, so why not. [Post edited 28 Jan 2021 9:22]
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