| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:09 - Jan 29 with 551 views | footers |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:03 - Jan 29 by GlasgowBlue |
Blimey. Your finger must have been hovering over the keyboard for hours waiting for me to post.
Funny that you think it’s only a “Tory” trait when somebody wants what’s best for their own country.
Invited Brexit. I regret that, as I think let the negatives outweigh the positives. When it really should have been the other way around.
Eurosceptisim has featured very prominently in the Tory media for decades and I’m happy to admit that it seeped into my thinking. I was wrong. I would prefer we were still in the EU.
But at least I can now see things form both sides and, unlike certain people, will not slavishly follow one side. [Post edited 29 Jan 2021 22:04]
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You've changed your mind over whether you'd like to eat sh1t or chocolate. Well done, have a biscuit. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:10 - Jan 29 with 544 views | m14_blue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 21:54 - Jan 29 by GlasgowBlue |
I understand where J2 is coming from.
From the morning the referendum result was announced, a small group of promEU posters have framed every argument as the UK government always being in the wrong and the EU always being in the right.
During the negotiations there were a small group of posters who appeared to want the UK to fail and the EU to get the upper hand, so to speak.
Every bit of bad news regarding Brexit was posted with relish. Any good news was dismissed. I got the feeling that there were some “remainers” on here who were praying the next few years would turn out badly for the country.
When I suggested a few moths ago that it would be in everyone’s interest for both sides to compromise in order to reach an amicable settlement, the pro EU consensus in here was why should the EU compromise in anything? We were the bad guys for leaving their club.
Now, just a few weeks after concluding the deal everyone is asking for compromise. It’s a funny old world. |
Except from what I’ve seen there has been universal condemnation of the EU’s actions here, which rather disproves the whole premise. |  | | |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:12 - Jan 29 with 534 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:09 - Jan 29 by footers |
You've changed your mind over whether you'd like to eat sh1t or chocolate. Well done, have a biscuit. |
The inability of you and some of your bedfellows to understand alternative views to your own is a weakness that if addressed, would lead to much better discourse on here. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:12 - Jan 29 with 534 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 20:34 - Jan 29 by Steve_M |
Amazing:
Total feck up and sense of panic from the Commission. Any government should pause for breath before taking drastic action, it’s a chance to avoid doing something so counter-productively stupid. |
That is priceless....made my evening! |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:12 - Jan 29 with 529 views | jeera |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:04 - Jan 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Nope, the fundamentally depressing thing here is that 'liberals' are so keen to hang their coats on the EU hook. Ffs, people on here have even tried to claim membership as some sort of act of the Internationale spirit! F#kkin' owned! |
That is not only simplistic it also verges on being a blatant lie.
Why use this 'moment' to leap onto something like this whilst completely ignoring the effing mess that has been created so far by this attitude some of you are suddenly willing to showcase?
It's not just these perceived 'liberals' who go quiet when it suits them. The back-tracking has been clear until now, when suddenly some are feeling empowered again.
Right now, countries are worried about getting screwed over for what they consider to be their fair share of vaccines. People are afraid. It's not a joke.
It [the 'B' word] has so far been a mess and it's completely dishonest to pretend otherwise. Businesses are losing a fortune and you think it's funny?
Fecking 'owned'. Ffs. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:14 - Jan 29 with 522 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:10 - Jan 29 by m14_blue |
Except from what I’ve seen there has been universal condemnation of the EU’s actions here, which rather disproves the whole premise. |
And silence from some of the more vocal “blue passports and thick racists” posters who would have been all over this had the roles been reversed.
Edit. Yiu have never been in that camp btw. [Post edited 29 Jan 2021 22:15]
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:14 - Jan 29 with 517 views | jeera |
Surely that reinforces what he said. | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:17 - Jan 29 with 496 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:14 - Jan 29 by jeera |
Surely that reinforces what he said. |
No.
“ So far, U.K. limits on exports are focused on middlemen or wholesalers who buy medicines intended for patients in one country in order to sell it on for a higher price abroad. Some EU member countries have had similar controls. This means that drugmakers with the right marketing authorization for a drug are still able to export it. | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:17 - Jan 29 with 493 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 21:53 - Jan 29 by BloomBlue |
Technically not correct. If the UK was in the EU we could still have done deals on vaccines independently of the EU program as Germany has done. The AZ supply chain would still have suffered the same delays but the irony is the EU can stop exports to the UK now of the pfizer vaccine to help with their shortfall as we're outside of EU but if we had been in the EU they couldn't stop the supply even if we had independent deals. So technically in this situation they would have been in a worse situation if the UK was in the EU |
Unless I’m missing something, that’s irrelevant to my point. The thread is about NI being treated differently than the rest of the UK. That wouldn’t have happened without Brexit and specifically Boris’s ‘deal’ aligning NI to the EU.
Sorry, but I’m not really following the logic of your post. It seems to imply that NI would have been better off before we left the EU, which was my point. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:18 - Jan 29 with 484 views | J2BLUE |
The EU have reversed their decision to impose controls on exports to NI
Source: Sky |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:19 - Jan 29 with 475 views | m14_blue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:04 - Jan 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Nope, the fundamentally depressing thing here is that 'liberals' are so keen to hang their coats on the EU hook. Ffs, people on here have even tried to claim membership as some sort of act of the Internationale spirit! F#kkin' owned! |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:21 - Jan 29 with 460 views | pointofblue |
To get back on topic, the board's favourite BBC journalist is now saying that EU sources are describing the decision as an 'oversight'.
Have the script writers for The Thick Of It taken over the EU too? | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:22 - Jan 29 with 454 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 21:15 - Jan 29 by J2BLUE |
The EU blocked it?!?!? Irish lives will be lost because the EU wanted to save face? |
Definitely not a super state. | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:22 - Jan 29 with 453 views | m14_blue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:14 - Jan 29 by GlasgowBlue |
And silence from some of the more vocal “blue passports and thick racists” posters who would have been all over this had the roles been reversed.
Edit. Yiu have never been in that camp btw. [Post edited 29 Jan 2021 22:15]
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Perhaps.
It’s certainly uncomfortable for us passionate remainers to see the EU acting like this and I do accept that the Brexit debate became equally tribal on both sides.
I just think there’s a massive difference between thinking Brexit is preposterous, and largely motivated by xenophobia and ignorance, and thinking the EU is perfect. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anyone eulogising about the EU on here, I’d be happy for you or J2 to point me in the direction of someone doing so. | | | |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:22 - Jan 29 with 455 views | Steve_M |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:18 - Jan 29 by J2BLUE |
The EU have reversed their decision to impose controls on exports to NI
Source: Sky |
As with the UK’s Brexit-related climb downs the right decision but only after a lot of damage has been done. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:22 - Jan 29 with 445 views | jaykay |
panic over, all stand down |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:23 - Jan 29 with 447 views | SpruceMoose |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:12 - Jan 29 by GlasgowBlue |
The inability of you and some of your bedfellows to understand alternative views to your own is a weakness that if addressed, would lead to much better discourse on here. |
Arf!
Oh Gibbers. The Mr Magoo of self evaluation.
I bid you a good evening, thanks for that one though. Hilarious! |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:25 - Jan 29 with 441 views | J2BLUE |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:22 - Jan 29 by Steve_M |
As with the UK’s Brexit-related climb downs the right decision but only after a lot of damage has been done. |
Oh yea, credit to them.
The UK have had more recent u-turns than anything else. | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:27 - Jan 29 with 430 views | quirkie |
I think we should rejoin the EU as soon as possible.
They look mustard. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:28 - Jan 29 with 427 views | Moriarty |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:18 - Jan 29 by J2BLUE |
The EU have reversed their decision to impose controls on exports to NI
Source: Sky |
It’s being reported here that the Irish Taoiseach (PM) gave Ursula a bell and reminded her of the importance of protecting the protocol and expressing our government’s objections to the EU’s approach.
Hopefully now progress can be made to resolve the bigger issue. |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:29 - Jan 29 with 419 views | Lord_Lucan |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:21 - Jan 29 by pointofblue |
To get back on topic, the board's favourite BBC journalist is now saying that EU sources are describing the decision as an 'oversight'.
Have the script writers for The Thick Of It taken over the EU too? |
EU turn if you wan't to!
This whole debacle highlights what an absolute self intersted gravy train bunch of charlatans they really are.
I despise the bloody lot of them. The only thing that i could see as a benefit from The EU was the fact that we have kept peace since WW11 but lo and behold....................................... |  |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:30 - Jan 29 with 412 views | pointofblue |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:28 - Jan 29 by Moriarty |
It’s being reported here that the Irish Taoiseach (PM) gave Ursula a bell and reminded her of the importance of protecting the protocol and expressing our government’s objections to the EU’s approach.
Hopefully now progress can be made to resolve the bigger issue. |
Ursula's been busy; apparently Johnson been's on the phone to her as well.
(Source: Laura Kuenssberg on Twitter) | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:31 - Jan 29 with 406 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:12 - Jan 29 by jeera |
That is not only simplistic it also verges on being a blatant lie.
Why use this 'moment' to leap onto something like this whilst completely ignoring the effing mess that has been created so far by this attitude some of you are suddenly willing to showcase?
It's not just these perceived 'liberals' who go quiet when it suits them. The back-tracking has been clear until now, when suddenly some are feeling empowered again.
Right now, countries are worried about getting screwed over for what they consider to be their fair share of vaccines. People are afraid. It's not a joke.
It [the 'B' word] has so far been a mess and it's completely dishonest to pretend otherwise. Businesses are losing a fortune and you think it's funny?
Fecking 'owned'. Ffs. |
Just speaking as someone not in thrall to the majority Brexit narrative nor the EU is a Liberal nirvana narrative you will have to forgive me making the most of those moments when the leopard reveals its spots. | |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:31 - Jan 29 with 397 views | jaykay |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:29 - Jan 29 by Lord_Lucan |
EU turn if you wan't to!
This whole debacle highlights what an absolute self intersted gravy train bunch of charlatans they really are.
I despise the bloody lot of them. The only thing that i could see as a benefit from The EU was the fact that we have kept peace since WW11 but lo and behold....................................... |
i thought you voted to stay in or have i got that wrong | |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:32 - Jan 29 with 399 views | Lord_Lucan |
| The EU introduces controls to vaccines to Northern Ireland on 22:25 - Jan 29 by J2BLUE |
Oh yea, credit to them.
The UK have had more recent u-turns than anything else. |
Not sure you can call these things U Turns, that' silly. Things are moving by the hour. | |
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