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The fall of the EU is close 12:48 - Jan 30 with 8852 viewsThe_Last_Baron

Not long to go in the life of this dismal construct. People all over Europe are waking up and it's entering its final stage, the collapse will be quicker than you could ever possibly imagine. Much like the Soviet Union, it will fall like a game of Kerplunk.


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The fall of the EU is close on 15:59 - Jan 30 with 1365 viewsJ2BLUE

The fall of the EU is close on 15:56 - Jan 30 by StirlingArcher



Bit early for that. The EU is going to have to defend against Le Pen and the likes using this crisis against them.

Just to be clear I am not wishing for that, but it's obviously going to happen.

Truly impaired.
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The fall of the EU is close on 16:03 - Jan 30 with 1356 viewsbluefunk

The fall of the EU is close on 14:39 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue

Good luck on that Glassers, and I hope you're right. But it's been nearly 5 years since the referendum and we're still waiting for the first 'Brexit dividend'. Meanwhile we've lost influence with the largest trading block on our doorstep, seen a glut of organisations leaving the UK and disinvesting and on a personal level many of us have lost colleagues who've abandoned the UK and lost jobs/opportunities that we were enjoying before.

I'll forever be bitter about the last bit (hopefully mellow over time) but do hope that we see some improvements in the not too distant future. It would be nice to salvage something out of this.


I voted remain but I do think the current vaccine debacle in the EU and the UK avoiding it might be seen as a Brexit dividend by some, and with justification
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The fall of the EU is close on 17:11 - Jan 30 with 1302 viewsMonkeyAlan

The fall of the EU is close on 14:33 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

That’s not abusive


Not when you think of the abuse they dish out to vote leavers it's not Paz.
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The fall of the EU is close on 17:12 - Jan 30 with 1304 viewsfooters

The fall of the EU is close on 17:11 - Jan 30 by MonkeyAlan

Not when you think of the abuse they dish out to vote leavers it's not Paz.


Ursula Van der Leyen's a good egg really.

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:15 - Jan 30 with 1292 viewsManchesterblue

Who would have thunk it.....

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:17 - Jan 30 with 1285 viewsManchesterblue

The fall of the EU is close on 12:57 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

Indeed. But Brexiteers never have tried to understand the EU from anything other than their own narrow, parochial perspective. The UK looks far more likely to disintegrate than the EU does.


hilarious

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:19 - Jan 30 with 1270 viewsHerbivore

The fall of the EU is close on 17:17 - Jan 30 by Manchesterblue

hilarious


Entirely accurate.

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:19 - Jan 30 with 1258 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 17:11 - Jan 30 by MonkeyAlan

Not when you think of the abuse they dish out to vote leavers it's not Paz.


I know mate but these hypocrite only see what they want to see

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:28 - Jan 30 with 1257 viewsHerbivore

The fall of the EU is close on 17:19 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

I know mate but these hypocrite only see what they want to see


Wow, more abuse. Unreal.

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:32 - Jan 30 with 1255 viewsBlueBadger

The fall of the EU is close on 14:12 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue

As Tony Blair said, “Brexit is happening, and our attitude now should be to strive to make the best of it; to approach it with determined optimism, not looking over our shoulders in unrequited longing for what was".

I'm quite happy to re visit this thread with you in five years.


'Get behind your country', eh?

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:38 - Jan 30 with 1234 viewsHerbivore

The fall of the EU is close on 17:32 - Jan 30 by BlueBadger

'Get behind your country', eh?


It's the Brexiteers' way of continuing to blame everyone else for their massive mistake(s). When it all goes tits up it'll be the fault of remainers for not believing hard enough.

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:44 - Jan 30 with 1233 viewsGlasgowBlue

The fall of the EU is close on 17:38 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

It's the Brexiteers' way of continuing to blame everyone else for their massive mistake(s). When it all goes tits up it'll be the fault of remainers for not believing hard enough.


Yeah. Tony Blair is definitely a brexiter.

We've left mate. As Blair says, you can wallow in self pity or you can contribute to the country's future success.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to do either. But we are where we are. You don't have to be happy about it but surly you want the UK to succeed?

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:47 - Jan 30 with 1224 viewsHerbivore

The fall of the EU is close on 17:44 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue

Yeah. Tony Blair is definitely a brexiter.

We've left mate. As Blair says, you can wallow in self pity or you can contribute to the country's future success.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to do either. But we are where we are. You don't have to be happy about it but surly you want the UK to succeed?


I'll be backing Scottish independence, I'm not really fussed how England then gets on.

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:52 - Jan 30 with 1220 viewsGlasgowBlue

The fall of the EU is close on 17:47 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

I'll be backing Scottish independence, I'm not really fussed how England then gets on.


So you're advocating for independence from a political union without knowing exactly how they're going to negotiate that independence, whether an independent Scotland would be in the EU, with no idea what currency an independent Scotland would use and what a future deal with it's single biggest trading partner would look like?

You no better than a brexiter

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The fall of the EU is close on 17:59 - Jan 30 with 1203 viewsMonkeyAlan

The fall of the EU is close on 17:12 - Jan 30 by footers

Ursula Van der Leyen's a good egg really.


You could be right my deary.
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The fall of the EU is close on 18:01 - Jan 30 with 1195 viewsMonkeyAlan

The fall of the EU is close on 17:19 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

I know mate but these hypocrite only see what they want to see


That's been the truth for a long time mate. Very blinkered some of them.
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The fall of the EU is close on 18:01 - Jan 30 with 1184 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 17:47 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

I'll be backing Scottish independence, I'm not really fussed how England then gets on.


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The fall of the EU is close on 18:01 - Jan 30 with 1195 viewsSwansea_Blue

The fall of the EU is close on 16:03 - Jan 30 by bluefunk

I voted remain but I do think the current vaccine debacle in the EU and the UK avoiding it might be seen as a Brexit dividend by some, and with justification


Possibly. We'll have to see how that plays out and how much we 'win' the vaccine race by. And how that fits into the larger picture of our covid management. Does a few weeks ahead on the vaccine offset the largest global death rate, for example? What impact will changing the manufacturer's recommended dosing strategy have? Etc.

We've certainly go off the starting blocks quicker rolling out the vaccines, which is looking like a good thing. They deserve credit for progress so far. (And the NHS - interesting that this has been a success because it's NHS led, but the largely private led Test and trace a disaster).

On the downside, aren't the vaccines costing us more than the price the EU got? And we've also waived our rights of recourse against the manufacturers if anything goes wrong. Giving big pharma immunity from prosecution is something that worries me. Maybe that's something we need to overlook for now as the need is so dire, but it's dangerous precedent to set imo.

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The fall of the EU is close on 18:02 - Jan 30 with 1179 viewsstantheman

Why the hell are you lot still arguing about Brexit. It's like having a spat about why ITFC are not in the Prem when we there once. Pointless, move on for God's sake.
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The fall of the EU is close on 18:03 - Jan 30 with 1184 viewsGlasgowBlue

The fall of the EU is close on 18:01 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

Why does it not surprise me that you hate your own country


Yes. Very much an I'm alright Jack attitude from Herbie.

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The fall of the EU is close on 18:04 - Jan 30 with 1183 viewsfooters

The fall of the EU is close on 17:44 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue

Yeah. Tony Blair is definitely a brexiter.

We've left mate. As Blair says, you can wallow in self pity or you can contribute to the country's future success.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to do either. But we are where we are. You don't have to be happy about it but surly you want the UK to succeed?


You can barely conceal your glee with the Tories in power and your Brexit done. Well done, but please stop cosplaying as anything other than a Tory brexiteer. And you wonder why people find you disingenuous?

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The fall of the EU is close on 18:08 - Jan 30 with 1163 viewsGlasgowBlue

The fall of the EU is close on 18:01 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue

Possibly. We'll have to see how that plays out and how much we 'win' the vaccine race by. And how that fits into the larger picture of our covid management. Does a few weeks ahead on the vaccine offset the largest global death rate, for example? What impact will changing the manufacturer's recommended dosing strategy have? Etc.

We've certainly go off the starting blocks quicker rolling out the vaccines, which is looking like a good thing. They deserve credit for progress so far. (And the NHS - interesting that this has been a success because it's NHS led, but the largely private led Test and trace a disaster).

On the downside, aren't the vaccines costing us more than the price the EU got? And we've also waived our rights of recourse against the manufacturers if anything goes wrong. Giving big pharma immunity from prosecution is something that worries me. Maybe that's something we need to overlook for now as the need is so dire, but it's dangerous precedent to set imo.


The reason we got off the starting blocks so well is down to: Not joining EU scheme, Appointing Kate Bingham, Buying vaccines early, Insisting on UK manufacturing base for Oxford vaccine, Putting in place the roll out infrastructure.

The UK has made many mistakes over the past year. We should congratulate ourselves when we do thing well.

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The fall of the EU is close on 18:08 - Jan 30 with 1152 viewsMonkeyAlan

The fall of the EU is close on 18:04 - Jan 30 by footers

You can barely conceal your glee with the Tories in power and your Brexit done. Well done, but please stop cosplaying as anything other than a Tory brexiteer. And you wonder why people find you disingenuous?


Brexit is a good egg really.
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The fall of the EU is close on 18:10 - Jan 30 with 1140 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 18:08 - Jan 30 by MonkeyAlan

Brexit is a good egg really.


Brilliant

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 18:11 - Jan 30 with 1144 viewsMattinLondon

The fall of the EU is close on 18:01 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

Why does it not surprise me that you hate your own country


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