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The fall of the EU is close 12:48 - Jan 30 with 8791 viewsThe_Last_Baron

Not long to go in the life of this dismal construct. People all over Europe are waking up and it's entering its final stage, the collapse will be quicker than you could ever possibly imagine. Much like the Soviet Union, it will fall like a game of Kerplunk.


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The fall of the EU is close on 14:33 - Jan 30 with 661 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:31 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

That wasn't abuse. You've misunderstood the context that means it isn't abusive, understandable given how painfully dim-witted you are.
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You are a deeply unpleasant individual

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:33 - Jan 30 with 659 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:32 - Jan 30 by MattinLondon

You used the term ‘remoaner’ early on in this thread. Being derogatory doesn’t apply to you does it?


That’s not abusive

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:34 - Jan 30 with 659 viewsEireannach_gorm

The fall of the EU is close on 14:24 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

Our Covid recovery will be far quicker and far steeper than the EU’s. Guaranteed.


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The fall of the EU is close on 14:35 - Jan 30 with 650 viewsMattinLondon

The fall of the EU is close on 14:33 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

That’s not abusive


Oh I see I apologise. From now on I will call leavers - Brexsh*tters’. That’s not abuse is it.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:35 - Jan 30 with 650 viewseireblue

The fall of the EU is close on 14:33 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

That’s not abusive


Define abuse.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:36 - Jan 30 with 638 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:31 - Jan 30 by m14_blue

I have no problem with you at all, FWIW I think you get a disproportionate amount of stick.

You’re so wrong about this though.

Of course countries can flourish outside of a trading bloc, but that’s not the same thing at all as being part of a trading bloc which collapses after many decades. That would be absolutely earth shattering for the global economy and we would be first in the firing line, given our geographic and economic ties with the continent.

British businesses are already finding out to their cost how much extra bureaucracy is now required to import/export.


Thank you.
It would be short term turbulence at worst.

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:37 - Jan 30 with 632 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:35 - Jan 30 by MattinLondon

Oh I see I apologise. From now on I will call leavers - Brexsh*tters’. That’s not abuse is it.


No need to be a ‘leaver’ anymore, we’ve left

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:39 - Jan 30 with 627 viewseastangliaisblue

The fall of the EU is close on 14:13 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

How would it be catastrophic for us? Of course it wouldn’t


Of all the idiotic comments you've posted on here, this is easily in the top two.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:39 - Jan 30 with 621 viewsSwansea_Blue

The fall of the EU is close on 14:12 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue

As Tony Blair said, “Brexit is happening, and our attitude now should be to strive to make the best of it; to approach it with determined optimism, not looking over our shoulders in unrequited longing for what was".

I'm quite happy to re visit this thread with you in five years.


Good luck on that Glassers, and I hope you're right. But it's been nearly 5 years since the referendum and we're still waiting for the first 'Brexit dividend'. Meanwhile we've lost influence with the largest trading block on our doorstep, seen a glut of organisations leaving the UK and disinvesting and on a personal level many of us have lost colleagues who've abandoned the UK and lost jobs/opportunities that we were enjoying before.

I'll forever be bitter about the last bit (hopefully mellow over time) but do hope that we see some improvements in the not too distant future. It would be nice to salvage something out of this.

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:40 - Jan 30 with 616 viewsEireannach_gorm

The fall of the EU is close on 14:36 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

Thank you.
It would be short term turbulence at worst.


Where do you get 'short term turbulence' from 'That would be absolutely earth shattering for the global economy and we would be first in the firing line, given our geographic and economic ties with the continent'?
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:41 - Jan 30 with 608 viewsMattinLondon

The fall of the EU is close on 14:35 - Jan 30 by eireblue

Define abuse.


If it hurts Paz’s delicate feelings then it’s abuse. If it doesn’t then it isn’t.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:42 - Jan 30 with 592 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:40 - Jan 30 by Eireannach_gorm

Where do you get 'short term turbulence' from 'That would be absolutely earth shattering for the global economy and we would be first in the firing line, given our geographic and economic ties with the continent'?


You think it would be catastrophic, I don’t

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:47 - Jan 30 with 576 viewsEireannach_gorm

The fall of the EU is close on 14:39 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue

Good luck on that Glassers, and I hope you're right. But it's been nearly 5 years since the referendum and we're still waiting for the first 'Brexit dividend'. Meanwhile we've lost influence with the largest trading block on our doorstep, seen a glut of organisations leaving the UK and disinvesting and on a personal level many of us have lost colleagues who've abandoned the UK and lost jobs/opportunities that we were enjoying before.

I'll forever be bitter about the last bit (hopefully mellow over time) but do hope that we see some improvements in the not too distant future. It would be nice to salvage something out of this.


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The fall of the EU is close on 14:48 - Jan 30 with 570 viewsSwansea_Blue

The fall of the EU is close on 14:18 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

Countries are not going to stop buying from us just because they are no longer part of the failed trading block. If anything trade will be far easier without the bureaucracy


There's more bureaucracy. Either you're on a wind up or you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

You keep crying abuse despite trolling the board all the time. Yet I think most people are pretty restrained considering the level of your contributions.

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:48 - Jan 30 with 570 viewsMattinLondon

The fall of the EU is close on 14:42 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

You think it would be catastrophic, I don’t


You would if it were business being ruined.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:50 - Jan 30 with 556 viewsBlueLikeJazz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:42 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

You think it would be catastrophic, I don’t


Are we near the the point in the thread where you admit you don't know what you're talking about but it's jolly mean of us to point it out in response to your Speak You're Branez witterings? You've claimed 'remoaners' isn't an insult - neither is 'painfully dimwitted' for someone who proves they are every time they post on here.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:50 - Jan 30 with 547 views26_Paz

The fall of the EU is close on 14:48 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue

There's more bureaucracy. Either you're on a wind up or you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

You keep crying abuse despite trolling the board all the time. Yet I think most people are pretty restrained considering the level of your contributions.


I’m not crying about the abuse, simply pointing it out

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:52 - Jan 30 with 540 viewsHerbivore

The fall of the EU is close on 14:33 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

You are a deeply unpleasant individual


No need to be abusive.

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:53 - Jan 30 with 535 viewsSwansea_Blue

The fall of the EU is close on 14:48 - Jan 30 by MattinLondon

You would if it were business being ruined.


I suspect Paz is an armchair Brexiteer who's got all his misinformation second hand from the likes of Farage. I've certainly seen nothing to suggest he has any personal experience or had invested anything in the relationship with the EU. He just regurgitates the same old tired and wrong arguments of the one-eyed Brexiteers, almost verbatim.

I don't know why people bother engaging. He's got no insights to offer.

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:54 - Jan 30 with 527 viewsHerbivore

The fall of the EU is close on 14:42 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

You think it would be catastrophic, I don’t


Yeah, but your opinion on this is literally worthless. It's based on nothing at all, you've shown time and again that you don't understand any of this stuff.

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:55 - Jan 30 with 516 views26_Paz

Enjoy the game gentlemen.

The Paz Man

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The fall of the EU is close on 14:56 - Jan 30 with 517 viewsMattinLondon

The fall of the EU is close on 14:53 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue

I suspect Paz is an armchair Brexiteer who's got all his misinformation second hand from the likes of Farage. I've certainly seen nothing to suggest he has any personal experience or had invested anything in the relationship with the EU. He just regurgitates the same old tired and wrong arguments of the one-eyed Brexiteers, almost verbatim.

I don't know why people bother engaging. He's got no insights to offer.


Just passing time until the football starts

Paz’s arguments are like Lamberts football. Slow, lacking teeth and totally bizarre.
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The fall of the EU is close on 14:56 - Jan 30 with 515 viewsEireannach_gorm

The fall of the EU is close on 14:42 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

You think it would be catastrophic, I don’t


Personally I don't think it will be catastrophic. I do not believe in the sunnier uplands either. I believe the UK have lost more than they gained and will take years to get back to the place the were when they left. Very much a case of voting for a bird in the bush rather than in the hand. That aside why have you such venom for an entity you are no longer a member of? You will have to change your tack of blaming UK ills on the EU.
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The fall of the EU is close on 15:08 - Jan 30 with 479 viewsDurovigutum

The fall of the EU is close on 14:24 - Jan 30 by J2BLUE

I am not a leftie.

You will see seems an odd response to what I posted. You cannot get less bureaucracy than free trade. This is a fact.


I hate to be picky but it's the customs union that removes the bureaucracy not a free trade agreement - that just removes/controls tariffs.

It's part of the reason the argument gets simplified and remain lost - the boring but important detail that is going to dog us for the next ten years.....
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The fall of the EU is close on 15:56 - Jan 30 with 442 viewsStirlingArcher

The fall of the EU is close on 15:08 - Jan 30 by Durovigutum

I hate to be picky but it's the customs union that removes the bureaucracy not a free trade agreement - that just removes/controls tariffs.

It's part of the reason the argument gets simplified and remain lost - the boring but important detail that is going to dog us for the next ten years.....


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