| Demise 20:27 - Feb 10 with 5743 views | bristolblue |
Has there ever been a more embarrassing time to be a town fan? Largely considered irrelevant by national media, our reputation as a well-run and welcoming club with clear values and ethos are completely in tatters. Kills me to see us being pitied and ridiculed in the press. |  | | |  |
| Demise on 02:39 - Feb 11 with 1352 views | BlueBadger |
| Demise on 21:31 - Feb 10 by bristolblue |
The way McCarthy’s relationship with the fans deteriorated was yet another example of the vacuum Evans leaves. For him to be captured telling our fans to f off and nothing to come from the club/owner was appalling. |
Anyone who was upset by that, deserved to be upset by it, |  |
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| Demise on 03:04 - Feb 11 with 1338 views | jeera |
| Demise on 22:04 - Feb 10 by PhilTWTD |
Not many clubs where the manager wouldn't have been sacked for that. |
Sometimes a bit of anger directed in the right place is justified.
Rooney got away with it on national TV.
We then criticise the same people for not caring enough, for lacking passion. |  |
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| Demise on 03:28 - Feb 11 with 1306 views | chrismakin |
| Demise on 03:04 - Feb 11 by jeera |
Sometimes a bit of anger directed in the right place is justified.
Rooney got away with it on national TV.
We then criticise the same people for not caring enough, for lacking passion. |
You wouldn't expect an Asda cashier to tell a customer to FK off
That's exactly what Mick did. |  |
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| Demise on 03:35 - Feb 11 with 1298 views | jeera |
| Demise on 03:28 - Feb 11 by chrismakin |
You wouldn't expect an Asda cashier to tell a customer to FK off
That's exactly what Mick did. |
Did you seriously just post that? | |
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| Demise on 03:40 - Feb 11 with 1293 views | chrismakin |
| Demise on 03:35 - Feb 11 by jeera |
Did you seriously just post that? |
Yes
Regardless of songs being sung etc, Mick was a paid member of staff of ITFC, he conducted himself poorly towards the paying customers of ITFC, whilst on national TV too
Regardless of my personal thoughts over it, I agree with Phil, not many clubs would have been able to accept that sort of behaviour | |
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| Demise on 04:51 - Feb 11 with 1283 views | shamboy |
| Demise on 03:40 - Feb 11 by chrismakin |
Yes
Regardless of songs being sung etc, Mick was a paid member of staff of ITFC, he conducted himself poorly towards the paying customers of ITFC, whilst on national TV too
Regardless of my personal thoughts over it, I agree with Phil, not many clubs would have been able to accept that sort of behaviour |
So where does that leave the rest of us, the good fans who were feeling exactly as Mick was feeling. Mick spoke for us. Mick against a rabble of beered-up numbsculls, half of whom were singing without engaging their brains?
Mick's problem was that his playing budget was inadequate. He told Evans what could be expected each season within the parameters of the playing budget. He delivered what he told Evans he should expect. So the insults at Norwich were directed at the wrong target. That's why Mick was justifiably so angry to be shown such a lack of respect. |  | | |
| Demise on 05:13 - Feb 11 with 1267 views | chrismakin |
| Demise on 04:51 - Feb 11 by shamboy |
So where does that leave the rest of us, the good fans who were feeling exactly as Mick was feeling. Mick spoke for us. Mick against a rabble of beered-up numbsculls, half of whom were singing without engaging their brains?
Mick's problem was that his playing budget was inadequate. He told Evans what could be expected each season within the parameters of the playing budget. He delivered what he told Evans he should expect. So the insults at Norwich were directed at the wrong target. That's why Mick was justifiably so angry to be shown such a lack of respect. |
Incorrect
Evans offered mick additional finances, Mick turned that opportunity down, he didn't want to upset the squad by bringing in anyone extra
Mick started doing in press conferences what Lambert has been doing for weeks now, the difference is no one is allowed to go games, if they were, you can count on the same treatment being aimed at Lambert, it's just how it is ( sadly ) in football when things aren't going well.
Regarding your first point, Mick wasn't speaking for you, me or anyone he was reacting for himself, he spent weeks goading the supporters, he felt he was doing nothing wrong despite negative performances, results etc, Don't forget he kept coming out with " The more you moan the least likely it will be that I will make changes" etc etc, | |
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| Demise on 06:33 - Feb 11 with 1236 views | BlueBadger |
| Demise on 03:28 - Feb 11 by chrismakin |
You wouldn't expect an Asda cashier to tell a customer to FK off
That's exactly what Mick did. |
If I'd been telling an Asda cashier that they were sh1t at their job, etc, etc in the foulest terms possible, I could expect to be removed from the premises, not see the cashier removed from post. | |
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| Demise on 06:36 - Feb 11 with 1243 views | chrismakin |
| Demise on 06:33 - Feb 11 by BlueBadger |
If I'd been telling an Asda cashier that they were sh1t at their job, etc, etc in the foulest terms possible, I could expect to be removed from the premises, not see the cashier removed from post. |
If the cashier had spent the hours before that goading you, I'd expect the cashier to be removed before it escalated further | |
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| Demise on 08:16 - Feb 11 with 1197 views | 44_not_out |
| Demise on 06:36 - Feb 11 by chrismakin |
If the cashier had spent the hours before that goading you, I'd expect the cashier to be removed before it escalated further |
As posted previously in regard to the ‘f£&& off’ incident , he wasn’t goading me as I liked him. If there was any ‘goading’ it was towards the numbskulls.
If that’s your perception of goading, I think there is an element of ‘snowflakiness’ to you.
Next thing, you’ll be saying you thought that relegation would be a good thing and allow us to ‘regroup’ | | | |
| Demise on 08:17 - Feb 11 with 1192 views | Churchman |
| Demise on 04:51 - Feb 11 by shamboy |
So where does that leave the rest of us, the good fans who were feeling exactly as Mick was feeling. Mick spoke for us. Mick against a rabble of beered-up numbsculls, half of whom were singing without engaging their brains?
Mick's problem was that his playing budget was inadequate. He told Evans what could be expected each season within the parameters of the playing budget. He delivered what he told Evans he should expect. So the insults at Norwich were directed at the wrong target. That's why Mick was justifiably so angry to be shown such a lack of respect. |
He didn’t speak for me and I didn’t abuse him. He’d been having a go at people who were unhappy with his Stone Age football for months. He was nettled about being challenged, I suspect because he felt we were lucky to have him. His abuse was in my view to all ITFC supporters.
I don’t have a problem with individuals being challenged such as Keegan chasing somebody up the stands who slapped the Perspex against his head. But what MM did was disgraceful. |  | | |
| Demise on 08:23 - Feb 11 with 1183 views | 44_not_out |
| Demise on 08:17 - Feb 11 by Churchman |
He didn’t speak for me and I didn’t abuse him. He’d been having a go at people who were unhappy with his Stone Age football for months. He was nettled about being challenged, I suspect because he felt we were lucky to have him. His abuse was in my view to all ITFC supporters.
I don’t have a problem with individuals being challenged such as Keegan chasing somebody up the stands who slapped the Perspex against his head. But what MM did was disgraceful. |
I don’t think, in hindsight, it would be unfair to suggest we were lucky to have him given where we are now.
Just saying | | | |
| Demise on 08:25 - Feb 11 with 1181 views | chrismakin |
| Demise on 08:16 - Feb 11 by 44_not_out |
As posted previously in regard to the ‘f£&& off’ incident , he wasn’t goading me as I liked him. If there was any ‘goading’ it was towards the numbskulls.
If that’s your perception of goading, I think there is an element of ‘snowflakiness’ to you.
Next thing, you’ll be saying you thought that relegation would be a good thing and allow us to ‘regroup’ |
Quite an interesting take, and presumption regarding snowlakiness
I was neither here or there regarding Mick being sacked, but felt he'd lost the vocal support of many which once lost is very difficult to get back again.
He unfortunately spent many weeks doing what Lambert is doing now, however Lambert is aiming his thoughts at the press whereas Micks was directly towards the vocal groups regarding his tactics, subs, results etc and he got worse and more angry as the weeks passed by and this resulted in his time at ipswich coming to an end | |
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| Demise on 08:27 - Feb 11 with 1176 views | chrismakin |
| Demise on 08:23 - Feb 11 by 44_not_out |
I don’t think, in hindsight, it would be unfair to suggest we were lucky to have him given where we are now.
Just saying |
But that's down to Evans and who he hired next, not just because it was Mick | |
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| Demise on 08:50 - Feb 11 with 1145 views | Vaughan8 |
My embarassment started with being absolutely outplayed by a non league team on TV when we were a championship team (yes that Lincoln game) and it's been downhill since then.
It's almost to the point where I don't want to even talk about our games anymore.
The giving Lambert a 5 year contract when we were on the slide last season was embarrassing and hard to explain to people who asked why we did that! | | | |
| Demise on 08:50 - Feb 11 with 1142 views | Herbivore |
| Demise on 21:21 - Feb 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Or the manager going too early with the "f**k you" ... |
Thought he timed it about right actually. |  |
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| Demise on 09:40 - Feb 11 with 1082 views | longtimefan |
| Demise on 03:28 - Feb 11 by chrismakin |
You wouldn't expect an Asda cashier to tell a customer to FK off
That's exactly what Mick did. |
Mick was an Asda cashier. Never knew that  | | | |
| Demise on 09:48 - Feb 11 with 1060 views | IpswichKnight |
| Demise on 08:50 - Feb 11 by Vaughan8 |
My embarassment started with being absolutely outplayed by a non league team on TV when we were a championship team (yes that Lincoln game) and it's been downhill since then.
It's almost to the point where I don't want to even talk about our games anymore.
The giving Lambert a 5 year contract when we were on the slide last season was embarrassing and hard to explain to people who asked why we did that! |
That game was the start, Lawrence banging one in from 20 yards at QPR going 1-1 and then taking Lawrence off and playing for the draw... QPR score, we lose and Mick looks a tool in a game where we could have won after we scored, then the Rotherham at home with 3 defensive midfielders we were only team that season not to beat them and it was only a 95th minute equaliser that stopped us from being doubled over them, pretty much every one else thrash them and Mick made out we should have been grateful for the point. | | | |
| Demise on 09:50 - Feb 11 with 1067 views | PhilTWTD |
| Demise on 22:11 - Feb 10 by 44_not_out |
He never banned you though Phil, he can’t have been that bad 😉 |
Think we've reached a pretty low point when that's a recommendation! MM was pretty unpleasant to deal with and I would guess was too savvy to start banning people as he would be aware it backfires in the manner it has for PL. |  | | |
| Demise on 09:52 - Feb 11 with 1063 views | PhilTWTD |
| Demise on 03:28 - Feb 11 by chrismakin |
You wouldn't expect an Asda cashier to tell a customer to FK off
That's exactly what Mick did. |
Perhaps more accurate to say the Asda cashier grabbed the in-store PA and told all customers where to go!
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| Demise on 10:23 - Feb 11 with 1005 views | bluelagos |
Obviously it's rubbish now, but rubbishness is relative.
So when Duncan had us playing dirge in the late 80s, the Robson years were fresh in all our memories. So that for me was a real tester of resolve. I think our attendances went under 10k too on a few occasions back then. |  |
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| Demise on 10:38 - Feb 11 with 987 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Demise on 21:38 - Feb 10 by 44_not_out |
Just for the record, he wasn’t telling me to F£&k off, because I wasn’t singing embarrassing songs about him away to our biggest rivals.
If I was him, I’d have done the same, because said fans were pathetic |
At the end of the day, Evans failed to manage/reign in MM and it eventually got to a toxic point. It's got to that point (on steroids) with Lambert again for the same reason. You've got a manager that has no interest in being accountable and treats the local press and in turn the fans with total disdain. If fans were allowed in the stadium or even allowed out at all, the abuse towards Lambert right now would be at unseen levels. | | | |
| Demise on 11:08 - Feb 11 with 958 views | Churchman |
| Demise on 08:23 - Feb 11 by 44_not_out |
I don’t think, in hindsight, it would be unfair to suggest we were lucky to have him given where we are now.
Just saying |
Where we are now is totally irrelevant. And I think MM was very lucky to get the Ipswich job at the time. He’d been fired by Wolves, who’d taken him on after he was fired by Sunderland. He was no Guardiola, Robson or Klopp. He was a bang average championship manager that could get a team hoofing its way into the Premier League, but couldn’t keep it there. He was well paid and there was no pressure on him to succeed after he’d got us away from relegation threat.
He left the club with fractured relationships and a lot of discontent. We were well rid of him in my view.
Better than we’ve had since? Obviously, but that’s not saying much. Next doors cat couldn’t do any worse than Hurst or Lambert. | | | |
| Demise on 11:16 - Feb 11 with 942 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Demise on 09:48 - Feb 11 by IpswichKnight |
That game was the start, Lawrence banging one in from 20 yards at QPR going 1-1 and then taking Lawrence off and playing for the draw... QPR score, we lose and Mick looks a tool in a game where we could have won after we scored, then the Rotherham at home with 3 defensive midfielders we were only team that season not to beat them and it was only a 95th minute equaliser that stopped us from being doubled over them, pretty much every one else thrash them and Mick made out we should have been grateful for the point. |
We lost that game to Rotherham. 3 defensive midfielders at home and Leon Best still scored a winner 😂😂😂
His hysterical breakdown at Burton was hilarious too as it was Celina who scored a winner, the player whom fans wanted to see on the pitch. |  | | |
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