| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls 08:55 - Mar 25 with 19905 views | gtsb1966 |
I wasn't too disappointed last year but this year i feel a bit deflated by the whole thing if I'm being honest. Usually go with a few mates for a week and then have another quiet week away to relax. Obviously needs must and all that but for some reason it has really peed me off. Anyway else feel the same. |  | | |  |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:45 - Mar 25 with 1589 views | Guthrum |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 10:13 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
Right so why is it different to holiday here than somewhere else if the country is deemed safe? Hotels and restaurants in England have people in them too |
However, the way things are currently, the variation of rates within the UK is considerably less than between this country and parts of Europe. As are the levels of vaccination.
Also, the further afield you go (i.e. to different countries, let alone continents), the more chance you have of picking up an exotic mutation/variant and bringing it back here. After all, it was people going on holiday to northern Italy and Austria over the winter of 2019-20 who unwittingly imported Covid-19 into Britain in the first place. |  |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:50 - Mar 25 with 1576 views | Swansea_Blue |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:10 - Mar 25 by jaykay |
to think as a kid in the 50s one day out, at gt.yarmouth circus was the highlight of our summer holidays. |
It still is! We had a lovely holiday in Norfolk/Suffolk a couple of Easters ago. Ok it was a week not a day, but then I'm flash like that. |  |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:52 - Mar 25 with 1570 views | IP4_Blue |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 09:15 - Mar 25 by bluelagos |
Can't say I'm happy, but if the govt are following the scientist's advice, then so be it.
What I am not looking forward to is the localism gone mad we'll get all summer. People constantly moaning about visitors to the various UK spots/beaches. Holiday overseas, you're irresponsible. Holiday at home, you're unwelcome.
One of the bright spots of last summer was people using local(ish) outdoors - like the river down an Dedham. But boy did the locals get upset at the idea that other people were spoiling "their" beauty spot. |
Ha i read about the locals not happy in Dedham! |  | | |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:55 - Mar 25 with 1566 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:01 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
When you say facts are you discounting the results of scientific research communicated by experts in the field?
The risk will be brought to a level that can be lived with and we will carry on, just like with flu
And then we will get on with great holidays and having fun |
and this says what exactly, I asked for missing facts and you supplied me words which mean nothing about facts | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:57 - Mar 25 with 1549 views | Bluefish |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:45 - Mar 25 by Guthrum |
However, the way things are currently, the variation of rates within the UK is considerably less than between this country and parts of Europe. As are the levels of vaccination.
Also, the further afield you go (i.e. to different countries, let alone continents), the more chance you have of picking up an exotic mutation/variant and bringing it back here. After all, it was people going on holiday to northern Italy and Austria over the winter of 2019-20 who unwittingly imported Covid-19 into Britain in the first place. |
My initial post talked about a list of countries with red Amber green
Red no visiting
Amber test and quarantine
Green crack on pal
The picture you paint is closed borders forever
I really don't buy the whole mutation thing, don't forget the worst mutation we have seen supposedly started here. If it van mutate elsewhere it can mutate here, especially as it started off the same |  |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:58 - Mar 25 with 1544 views | Bluefish |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:55 - Mar 25 by itfcpaul |
and this says what exactly, I asked for missing facts and you supplied me words which mean nothing about facts |
It says bore off and be miserable. I'll send a postcard | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:59 - Mar 25 with 1553 views | judespiveyg |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:55 - Mar 25 by itfcpaul |
and this says what exactly, I asked for missing facts and you supplied me words which mean nothing about facts |
Dude you're accusing Fishers of not using facts while simultaneously ignoring my post where I presented data suggesting your 30% was wrong. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 12:59]
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:01 - Mar 25 with 1545 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:57 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
My initial post talked about a list of countries with red Amber green
Red no visiting
Amber test and quarantine
Green crack on pal
The picture you paint is closed borders forever
I really don't buy the whole mutation thing, don't forget the worst mutation we have seen supposedly started here. If it van mutate elsewhere it can mutate here, especially as it started off the same |
ss you say you don't get the mutation thing, which says a lot, funnily enough the scientists believe it, the Brazilian one is so much worse than ours, but then again you will come back with a random statement that you use as a fact in your sentences, nothing to back it up just your opinion yet when I ask for something to back up what you say you provide nothing apart from your opinion | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:17 - Mar 25 with 1504 views | Bluefish |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:01 - Mar 25 by itfcpaul |
ss you say you don't get the mutation thing, which says a lot, funnily enough the scientists believe it, the Brazilian one is so much worse than ours, but then again you will come back with a random statement that you use as a fact in your sentences, nothing to back it up just your opinion yet when I ask for something to back up what you say you provide nothing apart from your opinion |
You are a very callis like
Take from that what you want | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:19 - Mar 25 with 1512 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:17 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
You are a very callis like
Take from that what you want |
Ok to make sure you are clear what I am asking for, here we go again:
Have you any evidence to back up what you are saying in relation to transmission etc? | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:25 - Mar 25 with 1496 views | WeWereZombies |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:17 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
You are a very callis like
Take from that what you want |
Rather unfair - callis uses capitals and sufficient punctuation. |  |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:35 - Mar 25 with 1471 views | Bluefish |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:19 - Mar 25 by itfcpaul |
Ok to make sure you are clear what I am asking for, here we go again:
Have you any evidence to back up what you are saying in relation to transmission etc? |
Gone a bit bully like now. Top stuff | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:35 - Mar 25 with 1479 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:45 - Mar 25 by Guthrum |
However, the way things are currently, the variation of rates within the UK is considerably less than between this country and parts of Europe. As are the levels of vaccination.
Also, the further afield you go (i.e. to different countries, let alone continents), the more chance you have of picking up an exotic mutation/variant and bringing it back here. After all, it was people going on holiday to northern Italy and Austria over the winter of 2019-20 who unwittingly imported Covid-19 into Britain in the first place. |
Indeed. But it's not fair, Blubfish wants to top up his tan!
Interesting how he keeps avoiding mentioning how he's getting to Crete. Pogo stick? |  |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:36 - Mar 25 with 1476 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:35 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Indeed. But it's not fair, Blubfish wants to top up his tan!
Interesting how he keeps avoiding mentioning how he's getting to Crete. Pogo stick? |
Apparently that doesn't matter, it's just about what happens when you get there!!! | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:39 - Mar 25 with 1471 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:01 - Mar 25 by itfcpaul |
ss you say you don't get the mutation thing, which says a lot, funnily enough the scientists believe it, the Brazilian one is so much worse than ours, but then again you will come back with a random statement that you use as a fact in your sentences, nothing to back it up just your opinion yet when I ask for something to back up what you say you provide nothing apart from your opinion |
Blubbers just wants to have his holiday and doesn't care about anyone else. That's the long and short of it. | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:40 - Mar 25 with 1466 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:39 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Blubbers just wants to have his holiday and doesn't care about anyone else. That's the long and short of it. |
yep definitely selfish | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:43 - Mar 25 with 1460 views | Swansea_Blue |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:39 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Blubbers just wants to have his holiday and doesn't care about anyone else. That's the long and short of it. |
A bit harsh. Wouldn't we all like the opportunity to escape for a week or two in the sun or a completely different experience for a while? I know I would. | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:45 - Mar 25 with 1455 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:43 - Mar 25 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh. Wouldn't we all like the opportunity to escape for a week or two in the sun or a completely different experience for a while? I know I would. |
Selfish all the same | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:50 - Mar 25 with 1446 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:43 - Mar 25 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh. Wouldn't we all like the opportunity to escape for a week or two in the sun or a completely different experience for a while? I know I would. |
Of course we would. But we don't, because there's a global pandemic going on. It's not difficult!
We've all had to make sacrifices. I lost my job because of the pandemic. I still have my parents' Christmas presents wrapped on top of the wardrobe. I'm sick of people bleating on the news (and social media, such as here) about the things that have personally affected them. We're all in it.
You tie yourself to the mast and wait for the storm to end. You don't bleat because you fancy a swim. | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:53 - Mar 25 with 1439 views | itfcpaul |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:50 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Of course we would. But we don't, because there's a global pandemic going on. It's not difficult!
We've all had to make sacrifices. I lost my job because of the pandemic. I still have my parents' Christmas presents wrapped on top of the wardrobe. I'm sick of people bleating on the news (and social media, such as here) about the things that have personally affected them. We're all in it.
You tie yourself to the mast and wait for the storm to end. You don't bleat because you fancy a swim. |
Well said
I am sure that the people who are saying these things will be the first to whinge about it when it goes wrong again, I am guessing that none of them have lost anyone through Covid, I am sure if they had they would think differently... | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:07 - Mar 25 with 1427 views | Swansea_Blue |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 13:50 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Of course we would. But we don't, because there's a global pandemic going on. It's not difficult!
We've all had to make sacrifices. I lost my job because of the pandemic. I still have my parents' Christmas presents wrapped on top of the wardrobe. I'm sick of people bleating on the news (and social media, such as here) about the things that have personally affected them. We're all in it.
You tie yourself to the mast and wait for the storm to end. You don't bleat because you fancy a swim. |
I know, but isn't it possible to simultaneously miss holidays and reluctantly accept that we can't have them yet? Sorry, maybe that's not what's going on as I'm jumping in late on the thread.
Have you managed to sort out another job? I lost mine (largely) because of Brexit - I'm struggling to not be even more bitter than usual about that! Luckily I've got another role in the same organisation. | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:28 - Mar 25 with 1404 views | ElderGrizzly |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:57 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
My initial post talked about a list of countries with red Amber green
Red no visiting
Amber test and quarantine
Green crack on pal
The picture you paint is closed borders forever
I really don't buy the whole mutation thing, don't forget the worst mutation we have seen supposedly started here. If it van mutate elsewhere it can mutate here, especially as it started off the same |
Late to this, but from someone on the inside of it all:
There won't be closed borders forever, but this summer you will require a vaccine and/or negative test to leave (and return) to the UK. That last bit is important. It will add about £200 per person to any holiday.
Traffic light system in any kind of useful form won't be in place until very late summer.
The May 17th date will see very little change from now on what is allowed for foreign travel. It was always a Boris 'promise' he was told not to make.
Some airlines won't accept you without a vaccine.
Good news is America last week told us it would bring forward border opening by 6 weeks from September to mid-July for UK (not EU) travellers. Although you will need pre and post flight tests.
So, yes you will be able to go away. Somewhere. At some point.
But countries will be protectionist of their own population. We can have all the vaccines we like in the UK, but if their population is at risk they won't open up 'as normal'. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 14:30]
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:30 - Mar 25 with 1402 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:07 - Mar 25 by Swansea_Blue |
I know, but isn't it possible to simultaneously miss holidays and reluctantly accept that we can't have them yet? Sorry, maybe that's not what's going on as I'm jumping in late on the thread.
Have you managed to sort out another job? I lost mine (largely) because of Brexit - I'm struggling to not be even more bitter than usual about that! Luckily I've got another role in the same organisation. |
Yeah, Blubbers isn't reluctantly accepting we can't have them, he's having them. Whilst claiming foreign holidays are no less safe than domestic ones. And then mocking others for having a more sensible approach.
No, haven't sorted a job but at least got a new (in fact better) creative partner and have built a joint website which we've been sending out to agencies and recruiters over the last week and a half. So fingers crossed. Thanks for asking!
Brexit was partially the reason I lost my last perm job! | |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:31 - Mar 25 with 1399 views | Ryorry |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:07 - Mar 25 by Swansea_Blue |
I know, but isn't it possible to simultaneously miss holidays and reluctantly accept that we can't have them yet? Sorry, maybe that's not what's going on as I'm jumping in late on the thread.
Have you managed to sort out another job? I lost mine (largely) because of Brexit - I'm struggling to not be even more bitter than usual about that! Luckily I've got another role in the same organisation. |
"isn't it possible to simultaneously miss holidays and reluctantly accept that we can't have them yet?"
It is, and is what most people on the thread bar two, plus, I imagine a few more like myself who hadn't yet contributed thus far, have said/were thinking. |  |
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| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 14:39 - Mar 25 with 1387 views | StokieBlue |
| No holidays abroad really is a kick in the balls on 12:57 - Mar 25 by Bluefish |
My initial post talked about a list of countries with red Amber green
Red no visiting
Amber test and quarantine
Green crack on pal
The picture you paint is closed borders forever
I really don't buy the whole mutation thing, don't forget the worst mutation we have seen supposedly started here. If it van mutate elsewhere it can mutate here, especially as it started off the same |
Just around the mutations, that last paragraph is both correct and incorrect.
The UK variant isn't the "worst" mutation we have seen (although it depends how you define worst), presently it looks like the Brazilian variant is the "worst" one with a very similar infectiousness but with what looks like greater resistance to the vaccine.
You are right that mutations can happen anywhere but they are more likely to happen where the virus has more scope to infect and mutate. If the UK has vaccinated all adults it's far less likely (but still possible) that a mutation will occur here as opposed to somewhere where the virus is free to infect and replicate. In this scenario going abroad does increase the chances of bringing a harmful mutation back to the UK.
The sensible thing to do is to wait until other countries have vaccinated and then have travel corridors to those locations but I suspect holidays will be on in a large way far before then.
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