Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio 18:34 - Mar 25 with 17250 views | Mullet | I genuinely think this will be a moment that condemns our club to long term suffering, even more so than removing MM for Hurst. The more I've thought about it, the more I feel like Evans' fortunes have picked up more than he anticipated and getting in Cook made him optimistic he could turn it around. Only days ago someone messaged me to say it was back on and only weeks away, but I wonder if they've got old news and mixed it up with a development. When I spoke to them more there were no details to refute that it's dead. Hope is probably keeping rumours alive now isn't it? |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:07 - Mar 25 with 1012 views | LankHenners |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 19:32 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | Like others have said it's ok to disagree I didn't like the look of the potential investors, so i'm not that fussed tbh I think Evans is an ok owner who has his faults, but there are many worse out there and I think he's been burnt by trusting the wrong people, rather than overall poor ownership. But that's my view. One day we may have a take over, and hopefully it will go well and you all will be happy. But until then, i'll just keep supporting the club as it is, |
Even if it was the case that Evans has been Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, which he hasn’t, it’s his own fault for not having an idea of how to run the club other than ‘appoint a manager and hope they can sort something out’. Everyone supports the club you doughnut, but it’s plain to see to most that it’s not going anywhere major anytime soon under Evans. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:22 - Mar 25 with 964 views | chrismakin |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:06 - Mar 25 by Guthrum | Maybe the approach to the EFL was more by way of a preliminary enquiry or testing the water than a formal request for approval. |
Looking at it, you can' get preliminary assistance, IF it went as far as EFL ratification, then an agreement was made between Evans and the potential new investors. The EFL either accepts it, requests more info or rejects it. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:22 - Mar 25 with 968 views | Mullet |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 19:20 - Mar 25 by Lord_Lucan | What's been said? Kind regards Mr Lazy |
Basically it's petered out and they'll probably buy another club. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:24 - Mar 25 with 955 views | chrismakin |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:22 - Mar 25 by Mullet | Basically it's petered out and they'll probably buy another club. |
or they won't as it's a dodgy set up.... which is a possibility ** Must add, this isn't a reply PHIL gave on air, it is not a quote ** must also add, this is my thoughts on the potential new owners, not to be taken serious as not allowed ones own opinion on such matters [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:33]
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:26 - Mar 25 with 949 views | Mullet |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:24 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | or they won't as it's a dodgy set up.... which is a possibility ** Must add, this isn't a reply PHIL gave on air, it is not a quote ** must also add, this is my thoughts on the potential new owners, not to be taken serious as not allowed ones own opinion on such matters [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:33]
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Not sure that's fair on Phil, as he didn't say that. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:31 - Mar 25 with 931 views | hype313 |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:24 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | or they won't as it's a dodgy set up.... which is a possibility ** Must add, this isn't a reply PHIL gave on air, it is not a quote ** must also add, this is my thoughts on the potential new owners, not to be taken serious as not allowed ones own opinion on such matters [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:33]
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Well that's one way of looking at the Marcus Evans Group. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:42 - Mar 25 with 890 views | chrismakin |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:26 - Mar 25 by Mullet | Not sure that's fair on Phil, as he didn't say that. |
No I know But people thinking Evans just changed his mind or wanted to add some extra £ to the fee, no chance. It wouldn't have been a 5 minute discussion about owning the club it would have been taking place for a while and for it to go as far as EFL ratification AND for the potential investors to go on the land registry thing, it would have all been provisionally signed sealed awaiting EFL confirmation. For it to fall at that point just says to me, something clearly not right with the potential new set up, and for that we have to be grateful it's fallen down at this point and the EFL have done their job. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:48 - Mar 25 with 872 views | Mullet |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:42 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | No I know But people thinking Evans just changed his mind or wanted to add some extra £ to the fee, no chance. It wouldn't have been a 5 minute discussion about owning the club it would have been taking place for a while and for it to go as far as EFL ratification AND for the potential investors to go on the land registry thing, it would have all been provisionally signed sealed awaiting EFL confirmation. For it to fall at that point just says to me, something clearly not right with the potential new set up, and for that we have to be grateful it's fallen down at this point and the EFL have done their job. |
Then, when Lucan asks me what was said, it's best not to make stuff up I reckon. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:49 - Mar 25 with 873 views | Steve_M |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:42 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | No I know But people thinking Evans just changed his mind or wanted to add some extra £ to the fee, no chance. It wouldn't have been a 5 minute discussion about owning the club it would have been taking place for a while and for it to go as far as EFL ratification AND for the potential investors to go on the land registry thing, it would have all been provisionally signed sealed awaiting EFL confirmation. For it to fall at that point just says to me, something clearly not right with the potential new set up, and for that we have to be grateful it's fallen down at this point and the EFL have done their job. |
Which bit of watching Evans unable to sack Lambert for months suggests he is decisive enough to know if he wants to sell the club or not? Is the deal doesn’t go through it will be because he’s changed his mind. Just like he did before. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:51 - Mar 25 with 856 views | chrismakin |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:48 - Mar 25 by Mullet | Then, when Lucan asks me what was said, it's best not to make stuff up I reckon. |
eh? I didnt say he did That was my thoughts on your reply about them buying another club |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:55 - Mar 25 with 851 views | chrismakin |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:49 - Mar 25 by Steve_M | Which bit of watching Evans unable to sack Lambert for months suggests he is decisive enough to know if he wants to sell the club or not? Is the deal doesn’t go through it will be because he’s changed his mind. Just like he did before. |
Timing wise though, the lambert leaving took place at the same time the EFL received the paperwork for the takeover at the same time Cook ( Who the new owners wanted) was employed..... All a bit too 'timely' to be a coincidence and Evans just changing his mind. ** I have to add, this is my thoery, my opinion, it's not FACT' not fact, i repeat not fact' just a theory of coincidental timings. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:32]
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:55 - Mar 25 with 856 views | Hipsterectomy | Would Evans be more or less likely to sell if we were promoted this season or had a third season in League 1? There's not a lot of money to be made even in the Championship and unless you're a Wycombe type team, it's not really self-sustaining unless you sell a player or two every season. You need to spend to get out or get lucky in that things click quickly |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:56 - Mar 25 with 851 views | Churchman |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 18:42 - Mar 25 by Marshalls_Mullet | Lucky escape maybe. |
A lucky escape so that the club can continue to die. 13 years tells you that. |  | |  |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:58 - Mar 25 with 837 views | Parky |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 18:41 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE | Couldn't agree more. I won't be putting a penny into the club until Evans sells. He loses millions per year. It's not going to get any easier to sell. He's either stupid or deluded if he thinks we can reach the Premier League under his ownership. Evens if offers are a few million short of his valuation he should take the loss. We were an investment gamble and he should own it. I will spend the credit on my account from ST refund and I will not put another penny in until he's gone. That includes any 'glamour' cup ties, trips to Wembley and anything else people think they might catch me out with. |
Fair play to you by sticking with it, something you clearly feel strongly about. Just to play devils advocate, if you were running a business with multi million pound losses each year and had a very slight chance of winning promotion which would cut your losses slightly, in literally the matter of a few weeks - would you be in such a rush to sell? FWIW I completely agree that it’s time for Evans to leave, but at the same time, if somebody wanted to buy us, I’m sure they could wait a few weeks. |  | |  |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:07 - Mar 25 with 809 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:58 - Mar 25 by Parky | Fair play to you by sticking with it, something you clearly feel strongly about. Just to play devils advocate, if you were running a business with multi million pound losses each year and had a very slight chance of winning promotion which would cut your losses slightly, in literally the matter of a few weeks - would you be in such a rush to sell? FWIW I completely agree that it’s time for Evans to leave, but at the same time, if somebody wanted to buy us, I’m sure they could wait a few weeks. |
Key word there is slightly. We're never getting to the Premier League under Evans so you are spot on, it could cut his losses slightly. Nothing more than that. He should own his failed gamble and sell. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:09 - Mar 25 with 804 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:55 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | Timing wise though, the lambert leaving took place at the same time the EFL received the paperwork for the takeover at the same time Cook ( Who the new owners wanted) was employed..... All a bit too 'timely' to be a coincidence and Evans just changing his mind. ** I have to add, this is my thoery, my opinion, it's not FACT' not fact, i repeat not fact' just a theory of coincidental timings. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:32]
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You're so close to my div list. Stop just making things up. Even Phil said more chance of promotion could well have been a factor. Stop making out Evans is some bloody saint and not a well intentioned dithering fool which he has proven time and time again. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:13 - Mar 25 with 791 views | Parky |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:07 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE | Key word there is slightly. We're never getting to the Premier League under Evans so you are spot on, it could cut his losses slightly. Nothing more than that. He should own his failed gamble and sell. |
I agree, but we will know for certain what league we will be in next year, in the matter of weeks. I wouldn’t blame him for wanting to establish that before making a decision. |  | |  |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:15 - Mar 25 with 786 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:13 - Mar 25 by Parky | I agree, but we will know for certain what league we will be in next year, in the matter of weeks. I wouldn’t blame him for wanting to establish that before making a decision. |
If we were battling for the Championship play offs I would understand that argument but this is league one. If we go up we'll be a bottom half Championship club if we're lucky battling to just stay in the league. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:15 - Mar 25 with 781 views | chrismakin |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:09 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE | You're so close to my div list. Stop just making things up. Even Phil said more chance of promotion could well have been a factor. Stop making out Evans is some bloody saint and not a well intentioned dithering fool which he has proven time and time again. |
So you're allowed your theory's, but no one else can have their own? STOP MAKING IT UP that he's changed his mind You and others MAY be right, and if so, fair play, and I acknowledge your belief. I however don't agree with that thought and just as you are within your rights to share your thoughts, I am to doesn't matter if you don't agree with it. I haven't ever made out Evans is saint, and i've always said I back a tackover. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:18 - Mar 25 with 768 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:15 - Mar 25 by chrismakin | So you're allowed your theory's, but no one else can have their own? STOP MAKING IT UP that he's changed his mind You and others MAY be right, and if so, fair play, and I acknowledge your belief. I however don't agree with that thought and just as you are within your rights to share your thoughts, I am to doesn't matter if you don't agree with it. I haven't ever made out Evans is saint, and i've always said I back a tackover. |
It's the presenting it as a fact that is getting on my tits. You also seem to forget that all along we've had people with actual contacts and history of getting things right tell us things which you wilfully ignore to keep up this stupid belief that everything has changed just because Cook is here. It's deluded rubbish. He didn't trust MM with investment even after he has earnt his trust. This idea he's suddenly going to back Cook is delusional. We're standing on the Titanic with water at our ankles and people are saying they don't want to get on the rescue boat in case it sinks. I just don't get it. I'd respect your view if it made any sense at all and didn't go against everything we have seen for the last decade plus or everything those who are really in the know have suggested. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:19 - Mar 25 with 754 views | Parky |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:15 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE | If we were battling for the Championship play offs I would understand that argument but this is league one. If we go up we'll be a bottom half Championship club if we're lucky battling to just stay in the league. |
I was thinking more in regards to the value of the club. A Championship club is going to be worth a bit more than a League One team and we’ll know 100% in a few weeks time. |  | |  |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:22 - Mar 25 with 739 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:19 - Mar 25 by Parky | I was thinking more in regards to the value of the club. A Championship club is going to be worth a bit more than a League One team and we’ll know 100% in a few weeks time. |
Would you price the club up at more than £30m in the Championship? Any serious takeover would get us out of this league in a season. I'm not sure it's going to make that much difference. It might, but I can't see how. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:24 - Mar 25 with 721 views | footers |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:18 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE | It's the presenting it as a fact that is getting on my tits. You also seem to forget that all along we've had people with actual contacts and history of getting things right tell us things which you wilfully ignore to keep up this stupid belief that everything has changed just because Cook is here. It's deluded rubbish. He didn't trust MM with investment even after he has earnt his trust. This idea he's suddenly going to back Cook is delusional. We're standing on the Titanic with water at our ankles and people are saying they don't want to get on the rescue boat in case it sinks. I just don't get it. I'd respect your view if it made any sense at all and didn't go against everything we have seen for the last decade plus or everything those who are really in the know have suggested. |
Savage. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:27 - Mar 25 with 692 views | J2BLUE |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:24 - Mar 25 by footers | Savage. |
I hate that i'm getting wound up on the internet but I feel like we've been condemned to another decade of this. Maybe the owners these guys want will appear in a couple of weeks. Owners who are perfect in every way with billions to spend and who want absolutely nothing in return. I won't hold my breath. |  |
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Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:28 - Mar 25 with 683 views | Steve_M |
Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:19 - Mar 25 by Parky | I was thinking more in regards to the value of the club. A Championship club is going to be worth a bit more than a League One team and we’ll know 100% in a few weeks time. |
That can surely be priced in though, there’s always been a chance of promotion this season even at our absolute worst. I’m not sure the difference between it value as a bottom-end Championship club is much greater than a top League 1 club. Retaining 5% of the club and letting someone competent run it gives ME the greater chance of a return on his money I think. |  |
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