| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio 18:34 - Mar 25 with 17239 views | Mullet |
I genuinely think this will be a moment that condemns our club to long term suffering, even more so than removing MM for Hurst. The more I've thought about it, the more I feel like Evans' fortunes have picked up more than he anticipated and getting in Cook made him optimistic he could turn it around.
Only days ago someone messaged me to say it was back on and only weeks away, but I wonder if they've got old news and mixed it up with a development. When I spoke to them more there were no details to refute that it's dead.
Hope is probably keeping rumours alive now isn't it? |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:28 - Mar 25 with 920 views | Parky |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:22 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
Would you price the club up at more than £30m in the Championship?
Any serious takeover would get us out of this league in a season. I'm not sure it's going to make that much difference. It might, but I can't see how. |
I’m not too sure on the valuations to be honest. My thinking was: Evans sells the club tomorrow for £30M, we go on a run and get promoted and then by getting promoted, with the increased tv money, the club is then worth £40M. - All this will be 100% decided in the matter of a few weeks.
Maybe I’m being optimistic, but if somebody is interested in buying us, why can’t they wait until the end of the season? |  | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:30 - Mar 25 with 908 views | footers |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:27 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
I hate that i'm getting wound up on the internet but I feel like we've been condemned to another decade of this. Maybe the owners these guys want will appear in a couple of weeks. Owners who are perfect in every way with billions to spend and who want absolutely nothing in return.
I won't hold my breath. |
Instant gratification culture and social media, buh. WE WANT IT ALL AND WE WANT IT NOW, DESPITE HOW UNREALISTIC EITHER ARE.
It's been like reasoning with children for some weeks. If the takeover's off, at least it means the news commenters can piss off again and leave the forum in relative peace.
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:30 - Mar 25 with 896 views | chrismakin |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:18 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
It's the presenting it as a fact that is getting on my tits. You also seem to forget that all along we've had people with actual contacts and history of getting things right tell us things which you wilfully ignore to keep up this stupid belief that everything has changed just because Cook is here.
It's deluded rubbish. He didn't trust MM with investment even after he has earnt his trust. This idea he's suddenly going to back Cook is delusional.
We're standing on the Titanic with water at our ankles and people are saying they don't want to get on the rescue boat in case it sinks. I just don't get it.
I'd respect your view if it made any sense at all and didn't go against everything we have seen for the last decade plus or everything those who are really in the know have suggested. |
Where are the facts in anything I have written? I haven't said it's a fact, I haven't quoted anyone or anything.
I don't personally think it's a coincidence all three things happened at the same time, might of course well be, but I personally don't think it was
And yeah people have got contacts, there are people with their own in America singing a different tune, so until an actual statement comes out or something formal we still don't know anything official. And realistically 'confirmation' wise we don't even know if there was ever a takeover on the cards ( Clearly im being sarcastic, but you get where im coming from)
For some reason, you've mentioned Evans and backing PC, i've not made one reference to that in this whole thread, so not sure why you're bringing that up with me,
No i might not scream and shout Evans out, doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see him leave either.
** To add, i'm going back through all my posts to advise that my thoughts are thoughts, there are no quote involved unless you see " and then it is.
there are also no facts, as I have no involvement in the potential take over the club, it is just my belief and thoughts on the matters at hand [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:35]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:30 - Mar 25 with 908 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:28 - Mar 25 by Parky |
I’m not too sure on the valuations to be honest. My thinking was: Evans sells the club tomorrow for £30M, we go on a run and get promoted and then by getting promoted, with the increased tv money, the club is then worth £40M. - All this will be 100% decided in the matter of a few weeks.
Maybe I’m being optimistic, but if somebody is interested in buying us, why can’t they wait until the end of the season? |
You might be right but can't see it making that much difference. Not sure the new owners would like the dithering side of Evans either who was apparently retaining a stake. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:33 - Mar 25 with 883 views | footers |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:30 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
Where are the facts in anything I have written? I haven't said it's a fact, I haven't quoted anyone or anything.
I don't personally think it's a coincidence all three things happened at the same time, might of course well be, but I personally don't think it was
And yeah people have got contacts, there are people with their own in America singing a different tune, so until an actual statement comes out or something formal we still don't know anything official. And realistically 'confirmation' wise we don't even know if there was ever a takeover on the cards ( Clearly im being sarcastic, but you get where im coming from)
For some reason, you've mentioned Evans and backing PC, i've not made one reference to that in this whole thread, so not sure why you're bringing that up with me,
No i might not scream and shout Evans out, doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see him leave either.
** To add, i'm going back through all my posts to advise that my thoughts are thoughts, there are no quote involved unless you see " and then it is.
there are also no facts, as I have no involvement in the potential take over the club, it is just my belief and thoughts on the matters at hand [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:35]
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Are you like this in real life? It must be very tiring for those who know you if so. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:33 - Mar 25 with 882 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:30 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
Where are the facts in anything I have written? I haven't said it's a fact, I haven't quoted anyone or anything.
I don't personally think it's a coincidence all three things happened at the same time, might of course well be, but I personally don't think it was
And yeah people have got contacts, there are people with their own in America singing a different tune, so until an actual statement comes out or something formal we still don't know anything official. And realistically 'confirmation' wise we don't even know if there was ever a takeover on the cards ( Clearly im being sarcastic, but you get where im coming from)
For some reason, you've mentioned Evans and backing PC, i've not made one reference to that in this whole thread, so not sure why you're bringing that up with me,
No i might not scream and shout Evans out, doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see him leave either.
** To add, i'm going back through all my posts to advise that my thoughts are thoughts, there are no quote involved unless you see " and then it is.
there are also no facts, as I have no involvement in the potential take over the club, it is just my belief and thoughts on the matters at hand [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:35]
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You posted this:
But people thinking Evans just changed his mind or wanted to add some extra £ to the fee, no chance. It wouldn't have been a 5 minute discussion about owning the club it would have been taking place for a while and for it to go as far as EFL ratification AND for the potential investors to go on the land registry thing, it would have all been provisionally signed sealed awaiting EFL confirmation. For it to fall at that point just says to me, something clearly not right with the potential new set up, and for that we have to be grateful it's fallen down at this point and the EFL have done their job.
You keep saying you want to see the club sold but to who? Who is going to tick the boxes for you considering we're likely to know little about them? There's always going to be a risk. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 with 850 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:33 - Mar 25 by footers |
Are you like this in real life? It must be very tiring for those who know you if so. |
He's like Danford light. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 with 847 views | jeera |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:15 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
So you're allowed your theory's, but no one else can have their own?
STOP MAKING IT UP that he's changed his mind
You and others MAY be right, and if so, fair play, and I acknowledge your belief. I however don't agree with that thought and just as you are within your rights to share your thoughts, I am to doesn't matter if you don't agree with it.
I haven't ever made out Evans is saint, and i've always said I back a tackover. |
Ok.
Without wishing to sound condescending, (but it will), I didn't have a great education either.
I have, however, spent much my adult life trying to at least understand what I missed out on and have taken several courses in an attempt to make up some ground.
I will never catch up at this age, but have at least reached some level where I understand the difference between critical thinking and tapping away at some vague ideas that pass through my head whilst I am looking at something shiny out of the window.
Don't get me wrong, I still do this, and so does everyone else at times. Even the smart ones.
But this has been what people have tried to say to you, quite a few times, and yet you don't seem to be taking any of it on board.
Still. Despites lots of people saying....
Random thoughts are ok sometimes, and they do have their place. But it is important to differentiate to yourself which of your thoughts are fanciful, and maybe not based on facts, and when to make it known to others too that you know that is all they are.
If you only post random thoughts, which are swimming around inside your head, with no structure, no actual evidence, or any discernible direction, as actual real-world possibilities, then you cannot complain if/when those views get dismissed.
I apologise if that isn't clear, I had my jab, (finally), late today and I have to say, my head is bit bizarrely woozy. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 22:27]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 with 845 views | monty_radio |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 19:26 - Mar 25 by Swansea_Blue |
I think it's valid to be skeptical of any potential bids for the club if the information isn't here. I've no problem with that. The only problem is that we don't know what detail is there. Unless any of us are involved we have no idea of the actual substance behind this bid. |
Realistically, we won't know though, will we? Big business seldom discusses its planning procedures in the open. Even good, legit businesses don't rush to let Joe Public know more than the legal processes demand until the time for openness costs them nothing. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:40 - Mar 25 with 838 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 by jeera |
Ok.
Without wishing to sound condescending, (but it will), I didn't have a great education either.
I have, however, spent much my adult life trying to at least understand what I missed out on and have taken several courses in an attempt to make up some ground.
I will never catch up at this age, but have at least reached some level where I understand the difference between critical thinking and tapping away at some vague ideas that pass through my head whilst I am looking at something shiny out of the window.
Don't get me wrong, I still do this, and so does everyone else at times. Even the smart ones.
But this has been what people have tried to say to you, quite a few times, and yet you don't seem to be taking any of it on board.
Still. Despites lots of people saying....
Random thoughts are ok sometimes, and they do have their place. But it is important to differentiate to yourself which of your thoughts are fanciful, and maybe not based on facts, and when to make it known to others too that you know that is all they are.
If you only post random thoughts, which are swimming around inside your head, with no structure, no actual evidence, or any discernible direction, as actual real-world possibilities, then you cannot complain if/when those views get dismissed.
I apologise if that isn't clear, I had my jab, (finally), late today and I have to say, my head is bit bizarrely woozy. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 22:27]
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Congrats on the jab! | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:41 - Mar 25 with 827 views | footers |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
He's like Danford light. |
At least he uses paragraphs.
Anyway, I'm off for a beer. I'll pour you one too, honey bunny. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:42 - Mar 25 with 825 views | jeera |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:40 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
Congrats on the jab! |
Thank you! | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:42 - Mar 25 with 817 views | chrismakin |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:33 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
You posted this:
But people thinking Evans just changed his mind or wanted to add some extra £ to the fee, no chance. It wouldn't have been a 5 minute discussion about owning the club it would have been taking place for a while and for it to go as far as EFL ratification AND for the potential investors to go on the land registry thing, it would have all been provisionally signed sealed awaiting EFL confirmation. For it to fall at that point just says to me, something clearly not right with the potential new set up, and for that we have to be grateful it's fallen down at this point and the EFL have done their job.
You keep saying you want to see the club sold but to who? Who is going to tick the boxes for you considering we're likely to know little about them? There's always going to be a risk. |
Yeah and I stand by my thoughts in that response,
Regarding the bottom question, Everyones going to be a risk, but for me, the property investment side of it concerned me abit, ( the potential of moving the club to another part of ipswich) etc the vast amount of people potentially involved in the deal, the useage of hedge funds, etc, I dunno, personal gut feeling really.
But either way, They may still turn out to be our new owners at some point, and if they did id support them as owners of the club [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:45]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:42 - Mar 25 with 807 views | BryanPlug |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 19:37 - Mar 25 by Freddy |
Agree, Evans is the problem and until he goes nothing will change. Who honestly ever thought there was a serious takeover bid? |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:43 - Mar 25 with 808 views | chrismakin |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 by jeera |
Ok.
Without wishing to sound condescending, (but it will), I didn't have a great education either.
I have, however, spent much my adult life trying to at least understand what I missed out on and have taken several courses in an attempt to make up some ground.
I will never catch up at this age, but have at least reached some level where I understand the difference between critical thinking and tapping away at some vague ideas that pass through my head whilst I am looking at something shiny out of the window.
Don't get me wrong, I still do this, and so does everyone else at times. Even the smart ones.
But this has been what people have tried to say to you, quite a few times, and yet you don't seem to be taking any of it on board.
Still. Despites lots of people saying....
Random thoughts are ok sometimes, and they do have their place. But it is important to differentiate to yourself which of your thoughts are fanciful, and maybe not based on facts, and when to make it known to others too that you know that is all they are.
If you only post random thoughts, which are swimming around inside your head, with no structure, no actual evidence, or any discernible direction, as actual real-world possibilities, then you cannot complain if/when those views get dismissed.
I apologise if that isn't clear, I had my jab, (finally), late today and I have to say, my head is bit bizarrely woozy. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 22:27]
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From you Jeers, that was actually well put and polite to me.
Have a Jab more often ;) | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:45 - Mar 25 with 806 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:42 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
Yeah and I stand by my thoughts in that response,
Regarding the bottom question, Everyones going to be a risk, but for me, the property investment side of it concerned me abit, ( the potential of moving the club to another part of ipswich) etc the vast amount of people potentially involved in the deal, the useage of hedge funds, etc, I dunno, personal gut feeling really.
But either way, They may still turn out to be our new owners at some point, and if they did id support them as owners of the club [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:45]
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Moving the club was pure speculation.
The pension fund was very likely just loaning the funds to buy the club. Interest rates are dirt cheap and it was probably just beneficial to both sides.
Vast amount of people? You mean about 6? Most clubs have a board. We've had one man running the show. I'd understand if there were 10 or more involved but 6?
The above is all just thoughts and speculation on my part, obviously, but you would probably agree it makes sense? | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:47 - Mar 25 with 785 views | PJH |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:38 - Mar 25 by jeera |
Ok.
Without wishing to sound condescending, (but it will), I didn't have a great education either.
I have, however, spent much my adult life trying to at least understand what I missed out on and have taken several courses in an attempt to make up some ground.
I will never catch up at this age, but have at least reached some level where I understand the difference between critical thinking and tapping away at some vague ideas that pass through my head whilst I am looking at something shiny out of the window.
Don't get me wrong, I still do this, and so does everyone else at times. Even the smart ones.
But this has been what people have tried to say to you, quite a few times, and yet you don't seem to be taking any of it on board.
Still. Despites lots of people saying....
Random thoughts are ok sometimes, and they do have their place. But it is important to differentiate to yourself which of your thoughts are fanciful, and maybe not based on facts, and when to make it known to others too that you know that is all they are.
If you only post random thoughts, which are swimming around inside your head, with no structure, no actual evidence, or any discernible direction, as actual real-world possibilities, then you cannot complain if/when those views get dismissed.
I apologise if that isn't clear, I had my jab, (finally), late today and I have to say, my head is bit bizarrely woozy. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 22:27]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:49 - Mar 25 with 766 views | chrismakin |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:45 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
Moving the club was pure speculation.
The pension fund was very likely just loaning the funds to buy the club. Interest rates are dirt cheap and it was probably just beneficial to both sides.
Vast amount of people? You mean about 6? Most clubs have a board. We've had one man running the show. I'd understand if there were 10 or more involved but 6?
The above is all just thoughts and speculation on my part, obviously, but you would probably agree it makes sense? |
I was basing it looking at Pheonix, they have 13 co-owners, a chairman and then the Guvnor.
I appreciate the ground move was speculation, but with Bretts firm being heavily involved in the development of football grounds, the desire for 365 day useage sports stadia, I personally find it very likely, that they would at some point decide to move the ground for development purposes. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:51]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:51 - Mar 25 with 761 views | jeera |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:47 - Mar 25 by PJH |
Was it a small prick? |
It was actually a bit like a quick punch on the arm.
But ridiculously quick and bloodless. Couldn't complain at all.
No suffering tonight either, though one or two weird sensations I am otherwise fine.
The rapid hair growth on the back of my hands would be more welcome on my forehead but you can't have everything! | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:56 - Mar 25 with 739 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:49 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
I was basing it looking at Pheonix, they have 13 co-owners, a chairman and then the Guvnor.
I appreciate the ground move was speculation, but with Bretts firm being heavily involved in the development of football grounds, the desire for 365 day useage sports stadia, I personally find it very likely, that they would at some point decide to move the ground for development purposes. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 21:51]
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And Pheonix have had a lot of success under them. Delivered everything they promised apparently.
I'm just gutted. When Phil said it was with the EFL for ratification it was like all my hopes came back. Seeing town in the top flight, seeing Town at Wembley in a big cup final, seeing Town win something decent. Then it was all taken away. You may be right, our ideal owners might be just around the corner but like Mullet, I feel like this is a defining moment condemning us for the foreseeable future.
I am genuinely stunned at how many didn't want this takeover to go ahead. There will always be a risk but the current owner has been nothing short of a disaster. I just can't imagine any potential owner ever convincing 90% of the fan base now. Gamechangers seemed like a great opportunity and everything suggested they were decent people. Yet people didn't want them.
I feel like Evans will be here a long time now. I might be wrong but he's clearly deluded. He talks about his "investment plan" and other such nonsense while talking about the Premier League with a straight face. Phil has told us he refuses to delegate. The structure of the club isn't going to change. I suspect Cook will get us up but in ten years I predict we'll be a mid table league one side. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:57 - Mar 25 with 730 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:51 - Mar 25 by jeera |
It was actually a bit like a quick punch on the arm.
But ridiculously quick and bloodless. Couldn't complain at all.
No suffering tonight either, though one or two weird sensations I am otherwise fine.
The rapid hair growth on the back of my hands would be more welcome on my forehead but you can't have everything! |
Us hard cases barely had any reaction...  | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:00 - Mar 25 with 710 views | jeera |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:57 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
Us hard cases barely had any reaction... |
All right, I admit.
I was promised, before I went in, a sticker if I didn't make a fuss.
I like stickers. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:02 - Mar 25 with 707 views | PJH |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:57 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
Us hard cases barely had any reaction... |
I didn't either-I am so tough that I am going to have a second one next month. | | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:04 - Mar 25 with 685 views | chrismakin |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 21:56 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
And Pheonix have had a lot of success under them. Delivered everything they promised apparently.
I'm just gutted. When Phil said it was with the EFL for ratification it was like all my hopes came back. Seeing town in the top flight, seeing Town at Wembley in a big cup final, seeing Town win something decent. Then it was all taken away. You may be right, our ideal owners might be just around the corner but like Mullet, I feel like this is a defining moment condemning us for the foreseeable future.
I am genuinely stunned at how many didn't want this takeover to go ahead. There will always be a risk but the current owner has been nothing short of a disaster. I just can't imagine any potential owner ever convincing 90% of the fan base now. Gamechangers seemed like a great opportunity and everything suggested they were decent people. Yet people didn't want them.
I feel like Evans will be here a long time now. I might be wrong but he's clearly deluded. He talks about his "investment plan" and other such nonsense while talking about the Premier League with a straight face. Phil has told us he refuses to delegate. The structure of the club isn't going to change. I suspect Cook will get us up but in ten years I predict we'll be a mid table league one side. |
It's difficult and there's always going to be a mix of opinions on a take over until it happens then you have no choice but to go with it and see how it goes.
I think if we were going from Sheepshanks to Gamechanger for example and this was the first take over i'd probably be more open to anyone doing it, as we needed a savior financially but having all the excitement when Evans took over the club of not just being saved financially but at the time thinking here we go back to the promise land and look where we are now, it's made me very wary of what could happen next. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:05 - Mar 25 with 689 views | Stewart27 |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 18:49 - Mar 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Same us the OP suggesting its a big loss really.
I'm not saying Evans is the answer, I just didn't have a good feeling about Brett and his cronies. We didn't have much of an idea what their strategy was or whether the funds were coming from. |
But you like Evans’ strategy and the funding he has given to make us the competitive powerhouse that we are?
Surely you’d gamble in the hope that this misery would end? | | | |
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