| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio 18:34 - Mar 25 with 17240 views | Mullet |
I genuinely think this will be a moment that condemns our club to long term suffering, even more so than removing MM for Hurst. The more I've thought about it, the more I feel like Evans' fortunes have picked up more than he anticipated and getting in Cook made him optimistic he could turn it around.
Only days ago someone messaged me to say it was back on and only weeks away, but I wonder if they've got old news and mixed it up with a development. When I spoke to them more there were no details to refute that it's dead.
Hope is probably keeping rumours alive now isn't it? |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:05 - Mar 25 with 3853 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:00 - Mar 25 by jeera |
All right, I admit.
I was promised, before I went in, a sticker if I didn't make a fuss.
I like stickers. |
My mum's partner got a lolly and you got a sticker.
Unbelievable. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:07 - Mar 25 with 3844 views | HighgateBlue |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:07 - Mar 25 by Mullet |
"We don't know anything whatsoever"? What do you mean Mr Rumsfeld?
I don't think I claimed to know specifics or cited them, but it's quite clear that several sources and key information showed that this takeover was developed enough to attract this much attention.
What is clear, is that it sparked a moment of belief in change that this club desperately needs. Evans has driven us into the ground and allowed his one decent manager to be a lightning rod for an even greater number of idiots and sh1t talkers than Jim.
All while the very fabric of the clubs fades and frays in front of us. If you don't see even the potential debate the possibilities this brings why bother at all? |
My point is: how can it be a key moment when nothing has actually happened? We don't know whether any takeover was "developed enough" at all. There is not even one purported quote from Evans or from the company (with £4 of share capital) that was supposed to be making an offer to buy Town. We literally don't even know if there was an offer. That's what I mean. |  | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:09 - Mar 25 with 3841 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:04 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
It's difficult and there's always going to be a mix of opinions on a take over until it happens then you have no choice but to go with it and see how it goes.
I think if we were going from Sheepshanks to Gamechanger for example and this was the first take over i'd probably be more open to anyone doing it, as we needed a savior financially but having all the excitement when Evans took over the club of not just being saved financially but at the time thinking here we go back to the promise land and look where we are now, it's made me very wary of what could happen next. |
This is the last time i'll say it, I promise, because we're going around in circles but what chance is there of getting someone worse? Evans has literally seen us go from top 8 in the championship to league one for the first time in 60 years. We now have a club where apathy and mediocrity have seeped into every bit of the club. Our owner refuses to delegate any power and is incompetent at running a club.
Seriously, how do you weigh everything up with Gamechangers and Evans and decide you want to stick with Evans? Evans has been a complete disaster. The chances of it being worse are incredibly small. It could happen but from what we know about GC it seems unlikely. Any semi competent owner would have us at least a league higher.
I will never understand it. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:10 - Mar 25 with 3834 views | HighgateBlue |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:04 - Mar 25 by Guthrum |
If it really did get some way down the line (about which I am not entirely convinced), that shows there is at least some interest from sensible quarters and that Evans is prepared to give them the time of day. So something may still happen at some point, albeit maybe not with the same group of people.
Plus I believe that with some sensible management/coaching, we ought to be able to clamber back into the Championship even without fresh investment or reorganisation. |
I'm not entirely convinced either. There's no evidence of an offer to buy the club, and there's certainly no evidence of an offer having been accepted even in principle. It's that simple.
But yes, we know from Evans that there has been some interest. He referred to an offer having been made by a different bunch. And I also agree that we may be able to clamber (quite the correct verb I'm sure - we don't do things with ease any longer) back into the Championship even without a takeover. | | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:11 - Mar 25 with 3821 views | Stewart27 |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 19:24 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
Surely though, if it went as far as EFL and it's fallen down since, doesn't that just prove something dodgy came up hence why it's broken down
Isn't it a blessing that something's been picked up now rather than down the line with a new owner where we could end up like a Bury for example |
That’s an extreme example.
We’ll just carry on being an Ipswich. |  | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:11 - Mar 25 with 3823 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:10 - Mar 25 by HighgateBlue |
I'm not entirely convinced either. There's no evidence of an offer to buy the club, and there's certainly no evidence of an offer having been accepted even in principle. It's that simple.
But yes, we know from Evans that there has been some interest. He referred to an offer having been made by a different bunch. And I also agree that we may be able to clamber (quite the correct verb I'm sure - we don't do things with ease any longer) back into the Championship even without a takeover. |
Apart from people including Phil saying it was with the EFL for ratification. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:21 - Mar 25 with 3774 views | chrismakin |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:09 - Mar 25 by J2BLUE |
This is the last time i'll say it, I promise, because we're going around in circles but what chance is there of getting someone worse? Evans has literally seen us go from top 8 in the championship to league one for the first time in 60 years. We now have a club where apathy and mediocrity have seeped into every bit of the club. Our owner refuses to delegate any power and is incompetent at running a club.
Seriously, how do you weigh everything up with Gamechangers and Evans and decide you want to stick with Evans? Evans has been a complete disaster. The chances of it being worse are incredibly small. It could happen but from what we know about GC it seems unlikely. Any semi competent owner would have us at least a league higher.
I will never understand it. |
You don't need to understand it, just accept that not everyone will share the same excitement about a club change of owner, I'm all for a change of ownership, but whilst the club is solvent i'm not overt to sticking with Evans if needed. BUT that's for me to have that feeling, no one else needs to share the same view.
I've seen many clubs over the years go down the shtter following a take over, even ours has not gone as we all hoped when it originally happened.
I've explained why I didn't feel comfortable with Gamechanger, if they did indeed take over the club I would still support them as I would any other firm. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:27 - Mar 25 with 3761 views | Stewart27 |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 19:32 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
Like others have said it's ok to disagree
I didn't like the look of the potential investors, so i'm not that fussed tbh
I think Evans is an ok owner who has his faults, but there are many worse out there and I think he's been burnt by trusting the wrong people, rather than overall poor ownership. But that's my view.
One day we may have a take over, and hopefully it will go well and you all will be happy.
But until then, i'll just keep supporting the club as it is, |
Evans is a shambolic owner who has taken us from a competitive championship team to a mid table, bang average division three outfit. Other clubs pity the way we are run.
I don’t believe Evans has been burned by people he trusts, but if he has been then it’s his fault for putting zero structure in place to make footballing decisions off the pitch.
There aren’t many clubs in the league that have regressed like we have over the last 15 years. It’s so slow that people haven’t even noticed it. | | | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:33 - Mar 25 with 3734 views | J2BLUE |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:21 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
You don't need to understand it, just accept that not everyone will share the same excitement about a club change of owner, I'm all for a change of ownership, but whilst the club is solvent i'm not overt to sticking with Evans if needed. BUT that's for me to have that feeling, no one else needs to share the same view.
I've seen many clubs over the years go down the shtter following a take over, even ours has not gone as we all hoped when it originally happened.
I've explained why I didn't feel comfortable with Gamechanger, if they did indeed take over the club I would still support them as I would any other firm. |
I said people can think whatever they like as is their right. As I keep pointing out you don't seem to have any specific reasons which make sense. Just broad "it might go badly" stuff which will always apply.
Anyway, i'm out. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:41 - Mar 25 with 3728 views | Churchman |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:21 - Mar 25 by chrismakin |
You don't need to understand it, just accept that not everyone will share the same excitement about a club change of owner, I'm all for a change of ownership, but whilst the club is solvent i'm not overt to sticking with Evans if needed. BUT that's for me to have that feeling, no one else needs to share the same view.
I've seen many clubs over the years go down the shtter following a take over, even ours has not gone as we all hoped when it originally happened.
I've explained why I didn't feel comfortable with Gamechanger, if they did indeed take over the club I would still support them as I would any other firm. |
Which clubs have declined worse than this one since 2002? Bolton who at least had 10 years in the Premier League after we fell out of it. Which clubs have declined more than us since the messiah bought the debt at a discounted rate? Bolton again? I’ve not looked but I doubt the list is exhaustive.
If we managed to win a cup game against Rotherham, Luton or Barnsley, it’d be a giant killing. Something to dust the open top bus down for. For goodness sake, that’s how far we’ve sunk. The only things that have grown under fast buck man’s ownership is debt and the mould on the roof.
The direction of travel of the club is downwards. Cook may hold it up for a while, should he stay a season or two, but decline is inevitable. The takeover offered a hope. It might have descended into chaos but we might have had a chance of something better. [Post edited 25 Mar 2021 23:24]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 06:00 - Mar 26 with 3621 views | hype313 |
Genuinely gutted about his, the Evans era has been an unmitigated disaster, in 14 years we have had one night against Arsenal which was fun, the rest has been dire dross falling down the leagues.
He needs to go, he can't run a football club, he has no footballing knowledge or nous and he's now looking like he Black Knight From Monty Python.
People saying it might be a blessing as we don't know what these new owners will be like, are you mad? Who is going to invest in a new club and leave us to rot like Evans is doing?
Some People need to wake-up and smell the coffee. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 06:35 - Mar 26 with 3589 views | wkj |
It is a fair point to say that we could easily have avoided a disaster here as well as we missed an opportunity.
That said, the excitement for change and a more accessible owner is going to be appealing for many, maybe most - and Evans really should be actively looking to sell in my honest opinion. At very least he needs to be more involved with the club, or install a CEO that runs the club under the financial constrains provided by the owner and merely retain the power of veto.
But yes, I am gutted - not because Gamechanger felt like the promised land, but the idea of change felt like a gulp of fresh air was close - alas, it appears that was all a mirage. [Post edited 26 Mar 2021 20:57]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:42 - Mar 26 with 3516 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 06:00 - Mar 26 by hype313 |
Genuinely gutted about his, the Evans era has been an unmitigated disaster, in 14 years we have had one night against Arsenal which was fun, the rest has been dire dross falling down the leagues.
He needs to go, he can't run a football club, he has no footballing knowledge or nous and he's now looking like he Black Knight From Monty Python.
People saying it might be a blessing as we don't know what these new owners will be like, are you mad? Who is going to invest in a new club and leave us to rot like Evans is doing?
Some People need to wake-up and smell the coffee. |
I find it extremely worrying that Evans thinks 1 decent managerial appointment changes everything. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:47 - Mar 26 with 3507 views | MattinLondon |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:42 - Mar 26 by Kieran_Knows |
I find it extremely worrying that Evans thinks 1 decent managerial appointment changes everything. |
I’m no longer surprised by Evans decision making. Like many dictators his thinking is baffling and all over the place. |  | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:51 - Mar 26 with 3497 views | Steve_M |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:42 - Mar 26 by Kieran_Knows |
I find it extremely worrying that Evans thinks 1 decent managerial appointment changes everything. |
A man too incompetent to take a good chance to get out. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:53 - Mar 26 with 3485 views | jeera |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:42 - Mar 26 by Kieran_Knows |
I find it extremely worrying that Evans thinks 1 decent managerial appointment changes everything. |
He genuinely doesn't appear to have learnt a thing in all this time.
And I know what a lazy remark that sounds, but nonetheless it's so true.
*yes funny how it seems etc. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:55 - Mar 26 with 3484 views | textbackup |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:47 - Mar 26 by MattinLondon |
I’m no longer surprised by Evans decision making. Like many dictators his thinking is baffling and all over the place. |
we all know exactly how the new 2/3 years will pan out under ME.
ME knows this too, but just cant/wont let go. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:56 - Mar 26 with 3479 views | Plums |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 20:58 - Mar 25 by Parky |
Fair play to you by sticking with it, something you clearly feel strongly about. Just to play devils advocate, if you were running a business with multi million pound losses each year and had a very slight chance of winning promotion which would cut your losses slightly, in literally the matter of a few weeks - would you be in such a rush to sell?
FWIW I completely agree that it’s time for Evans to leave, but at the same time, if somebody wanted to buy us, I’m sure they could wait a few weeks. |
This is what doesn’t make sense. Everything to date has shown that Evans can’t afford or won’t afford to run a Championship club. If he’s looking to make money, it isn’t in the league above. Unless you have parachute money, the Championship is a money pit. |  |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:02 - Mar 26 with 3466 views | HARRY10 |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:42 - Mar 26 by Kieran_Knows |
I find it extremely worrying that Evans thinks 1 decent managerial appointment changes everything. |
six times, in fact | | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:02 - Mar 26 with 3466 views | SenatorBlue |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 06:35 - Mar 26 by wkj |
It is a fair point to say that we could easily have avoided a disaster here as well as we missed an opportunity.
That said, the excitement for change and a more accessible owner is going to be appealing for many, maybe most - and Evans really should be actively looking to sell in my honest opinion. At very least he needs to be more involved with the club, or install a CEO that runs the club under the financial constrains provided by the owner and merely retain the power of veto.
But yes, I am gutted - not because Gamechanger felt like the promised land, but the idea of change felt like a gulp of fresh air was close - alas, it appears that was all a mirage. [Post edited 26 Mar 2021 20:57]
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As long as Evans is the owner, and fails to personally be present to run things every day, or appoint someone to do that on his behalf, ultimately further decline is inevitable. Cook finally is the best manager appointment we have made, and will likely give us a short/medium term lift, however whilst he also has to be the communications officer, the chief scout, the head of recruitment, the contract negotiator, the director of football, the tools around him to ensure he can be his most effective, will undermine.
Keeping the club solvent is not ownership and stewardship, it’s the bare minimum, and that’s what we have been for years - a do the bare minimum club. Others, even those considerably smaller than us are innovating to remain competitive. We just don’t have an owner or structure with the nous, vision or ambition to do that. Hence decline in ultimately inevitable.
Evans has said in his last interview (about a month ago) that the structure is in place. The fact he said this, and it is abundantly clear that it isn’t, is a classic head in the sand moment, and example of why we are where we are.
I will always personally choose an option of a chance out of this god awful 14 year cycle, in which every year at the point of season ticket renewal I tell myself it can’t get any worse can it? And every year it does bar one, which ultimately ended in a kick in the nuts from those up the road. |  | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:07 - Mar 26 with 3458 views | Chrisd |
This is how I see it too. Bottomline is ME has got us into this position after 14 years at the helm. He’s had his go and he’s come up woefully short. You look at us and we look a club that appears tired and desperately needs freshening up with ideas and investment as he has quietly allowed that slow deterioration. Disappointedly, our club isn’t going to see an upturn until ME moves on. PC might get some success on the pitch, but he’ll hit a point under this ownership where any team success will then just see us flatline. It’s not just on the pitch though, it’s most aspects within the club that needs looking at. Wasn’t it a cleaner at NASA that said to JFK, ‘I’m here to help get a man on the moon.’ I just don’t feel the club has that collective mindset and ethos to see us be successful due to the continued failings and messages from the very top, the belief and faith isn’t there.
ME, you’ve given it a good go, however the time is right now for you to step aside and let someone else have their turn. [Post edited 26 Mar 2021 13:05]
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:14 - Mar 26 with 3444 views | Plums |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 22:10 - Mar 25 by HighgateBlue |
I'm not entirely convinced either. There's no evidence of an offer to buy the club, and there's certainly no evidence of an offer having been accepted even in principle. It's that simple.
But yes, we know from Evans that there has been some interest. He referred to an offer having been made by a different bunch. And I also agree that we may be able to clamber (quite the correct verb I'm sure - we don't do things with ease any longer) back into the Championship even without a takeover. |
Where have you been. There’s a Land Registry paper trail that’s been fully explained, numerous respected journalists confirming an offer has been made and that the deal is with the EFL? Short of tapping Evans’ phone what evidence of a private deal do you expect to see? | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:21 - Mar 26 with 3437 views | davblue |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:55 - Mar 26 by textbackup |
we all know exactly how the new 2/3 years will pan out under ME.
ME knows this too, but just cant/wont let go. |
There's a really good chance we could be in league 2 in the next 5 years with Evans in charge.
Years ago we had a load of out of contract players, we won't be in this position again and lo and behold we are.
Cook with Evans in charge i have serious misgivings that he will be given the chance to put his team together. Free transfers are good, but you aren't going to be able to put together a team of freebees and turn them into players worth a bit of money.
You have to invest some money to get a return, we currently look like a club that is set up in the mid nineties structure wise.
Nothing will change, Cook might do a really good job but all he is doing is papering over the cracks. |  | | |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:24 - Mar 26 with 3426 views | textbackup |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:21 - Mar 26 by davblue |
There's a really good chance we could be in league 2 in the next 5 years with Evans in charge.
Years ago we had a load of out of contract players, we won't be in this position again and lo and behold we are.
Cook with Evans in charge i have serious misgivings that he will be given the chance to put his team together. Free transfers are good, but you aren't going to be able to put together a team of freebees and turn them into players worth a bit of money.
You have to invest some money to get a return, we currently look like a club that is set up in the mid nineties structure wise.
Nothing will change, Cook might do a really good job but all he is doing is papering over the cracks. |
you could have the most beautiful house in the world, but if the foundations are only 30cm deep, ultimately the house is gonna fall down.
ME is a sht owner, and as long as he is here we really are supporting a pointless club.
I want to be on board with Cook, because he deserves it, he deserves the best support we can give. | |
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| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 08:34 - Mar 26 with 3389 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Gutted to hear the takeover is all but off from Phil on Naked Radio on 07:51 - Mar 26 by Steve_M |
A man too incompetent to take a good chance to get out. |
This, 100%. | |
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