| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... 14:12 - May 14 with 17864 views | Bloots |
...washing the pants for Wigan one week and coaching the first team at Ipswich the next.
Scouse mafia. |  |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:38 - May 14 with 1816 views | J2BLUE |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:35 - May 14 by pointofblue |
Everyone’s allowed their own view and judgement though. Joe shouldn’t have to control his concerns and put everything he says through a filter just because people may agree with him. |
Agree but don't think it's unfair to point out that in the TWTD universe certain posters are held in high esteem and their words do influence people. |  |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:40 - May 14 with 1801 views | chicoazul |
Do think a lot of these appointments feel very Evans and his famous ineptitude/letting the manager do what he wants so have to wonder if this is all stuff Marcus signed off on before he made the sale. |  |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:41 - May 14 with 1783 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:40 - May 14 by chicoazul |
Do think a lot of these appointments feel very Evans and his famous ineptitude/letting the manager do what he wants so have to wonder if this is all stuff Marcus signed off on before he made the sale. |
Very much doubt it.
Don't think this can be pinned on Evans.
The new guys have ownership of this. |  |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:42 - May 14 with 1776 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:14 - May 14 by pointofblue |
Ah ok. In a way I can see a sort of logic with the hiring - take green coaches who have not had another set up drilled into them (well, Jeffers has to an extent, I suppose) and mould them to his will, rather than bringing in an experienced coach who may have different ideas.
No idea if it will work out or not! |
That's clutching at straws a little. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:43 - May 14 with 1778 views | chicoazul |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:41 - May 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Very much doubt it.
Don't think this can be pinned on Evans.
The new guys have ownership of this. |
Look at the people the owners have appointed as C level operations managers/directors, and the people Cook has brought in. Night and day. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:45 - May 14 with 1761 views | itfcjoe |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:25 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
I hope you're going to give Cook and his staff a decent amount of time. You're one of the posters on here whose opinion carries weight and if you turn early there's going to be a lot of others who are desperately waiting for the first acceptable moment turn as well.
We're just going to have to trust Cook and his judgement. |
Cook has to earn the trust, I'm not just going to back him blindly because he has done a good job elsehwere |  |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:45 - May 14 with 1755 views | pointofblue |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:38 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
Agree but don't think it's unfair to point out that in the TWTD universe certain posters are held in high esteem and their words do influence people. |
No offence intended to Joe or anyone else, but I think they’ll only influence if those peopLe have misgivings already and want to be influenced, though. Look at the a,pint of push back which has gone towards any post questioning Cook or the direction the club is going in - especially the approach towards the players. |  |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:46 - May 14 with 1750 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:43 - May 14 by chicoazul |
Look at the people the owners have appointed as C level operations managers/directors, and the people Cook has brought in. Night and day. |
I agree.
But there's no way you can lay this one on Evans.
The new guys could veto any of this if they wanted.
Fair play though if they are trusting their manager. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:48 - May 14 with 1743 views | J2BLUE |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:45 - May 14 by itfcjoe |
Cook has to earn the trust, I'm not just going to back him blindly because he has done a good job elsehwere |
He needs time to do that though surely? He deserves until Christmas are the very least doesn't he? With his own squad and coaching staff. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:48 - May 14 with 1739 views | chicoazul |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:46 - May 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I agree.
But there's no way you can lay this one on Evans.
The new guys could veto any of this if they wanted.
Fair play though if they are trusting their manager. |
Maybe they can’t. Maybe Cook has it iron clad in his contract that he makes all the decisions at that level and that contract has just been TUPEd into the new ownership, and there’s nothing they can do about it. It’s a strong possibility. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:57 - May 14 with 1704 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:48 - May 14 by chicoazul |
Maybe they can’t. Maybe Cook has it iron clad in his contract that he makes all the decisions at that level and that contract has just been TUPEd into the new ownership, and there’s nothing they can do about it. It’s a strong possibility. |
Ill agree to differ on this one. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:00 - May 14 with 1692 views | Freddy |
Bit of an odd one from kit man to coach? | | | |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:02 - May 14 with 1688 views | itfcjoe |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:48 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
He needs time to do that though surely? He deserves until Christmas are the very least doesn't he? With his own squad and coaching staff. |
Of course, but he has now made a rod for his own back with his lack of performance last season - people are happy to stick every ounce of blame on to the players but I'm not.
The American's will be giving him less time than I am, they want to go up next season - that has to be the minimum expectation......it can't be the constant lowering of them as happeend under Lambert | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:04 - May 14 with 1661 views | portmanking |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:48 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
He needs time to do that though surely? He deserves until Christmas are the very least doesn't he? With his own squad and coaching staff. |
Quite. I do feel it's rather extreme to be calling into question EVERYTHING Paul Cook's doing. He is the most qualified and proven manager at this level in the last decade. Let's just chill our beans and see how the next six or seven weeks pan out. | | | |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:07 - May 14 with 1658 views | PhilTWTD |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:29 - May 14 by itfcjoe |
That is 4 now for first team, and you have to assume a GK will join them.
I wonder if there will even be an assistant manager now or goes with what he has.
I can't say I'm particularly thrilled with the Jeffers appointment for the stuff away from football, but he has volunteered to get into coaching, and held down a job at a decent setup since then - I've concerns he hasn't had much senior experience, but ultimately he has had 5 years 'on the grass' which is massive.
Neither Roberts, nor Craney, have shown any appetite to coach, neither have done their badges, neither have put in the time on the grass required to push themselves on.
Coaching isn't all about badges, but Mick Mills was making good points on Suffolk post Fleetwood game that you need a good coach who can set up his own sessions, who can keep the players engaged, who can keep things ticking over whilst the manager oversees......and that isn't easy.
I'm sure plenty on here have coached kids teams, even at that level it's tough when you have to get sessions set up, make sure everyone is active, make sure people aren't getting bored - times that by 100 for first team footballers.....you hear them talk about coaches on things like Undr The Cosh etc, if a coach isn't up to it they get found out in about 30 seconds and won't gain that respect back |
I'm similarly wondering re an assistant manager. Don't think Kieron is now going to be involved in the first-team staff. |  | | |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:08 - May 14 with 1653 views | Wacko |
Guardiola had one year of coaching experience before being appointed Barcelona manager...
Experience doesn't always come into it - or rather official experience. The fact is, whether Craney has been coaching or not, he's spent years in a Paul Cook environment and will know exactly what his boss will require to achieve success | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:10 - May 14 with 1623 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:08 - May 14 by Wacko |
Guardiola had one year of coaching experience before being appointed Barcelona manager...
Experience doesn't always come into it - or rather official experience. The fact is, whether Craney has been coaching or not, he's spent years in a Paul Cook environment and will know exactly what his boss will require to achieve success |
Really??!! | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:13 - May 14 with 1620 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:07 - May 14 by PhilTWTD |
I'm similarly wondering re an assistant manager. Don't think Kieron is now going to be involved in the first-team staff. |
.....eeeek.
How is this looking to you Phil?
Dyer praised to the rafters, and now no place in the first team staff, having been overlooked for Craney and Jeffers??!! | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:13 - May 14 with 1618 views | stonojnr |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:08 - May 14 by Wacko |
Guardiola had one year of coaching experience before being appointed Barcelona manager...
Experience doesn't always come into it - or rather official experience. The fact is, whether Craney has been coaching or not, he's spent years in a Paul Cook environment and will know exactly what his boss will require to achieve success |
So you are saying hes a yes man then ;) | | | |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:15 - May 14 with 1616 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 15:48 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
He needs time to do that though surely? He deserves until Christmas are the very least doesn't he? With his own squad and coaching staff. |
I think its fair to question decisions.
You can still back Cook long term but express surprised and doubt about some of his appointments. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:17 - May 14 with 1609 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:02 - May 14 by itfcjoe |
Of course, but he has now made a rod for his own back with his lack of performance last season - people are happy to stick every ounce of blame on to the players but I'm not.
The American's will be giving him less time than I am, they want to go up next season - that has to be the minimum expectation......it can't be the constant lowering of them as happeend under Lambert |
Agreed, its not knee jerk.
Cook has had a quarter of a season of poor results behind him, and is making some decisions that makes people raise an eyebrow. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:19 - May 14 with 1600 views | J2BLUE |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:02 - May 14 by itfcjoe |
Of course, but he has now made a rod for his own back with his lack of performance last season - people are happy to stick every ounce of blame on to the players but I'm not.
The American's will be giving him less time than I am, they want to go up next season - that has to be the minimum expectation......it can't be the constant lowering of them as happeend under Lambert |
Good stuff, agree. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:19 - May 14 with 1597 views | J2BLUE |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:15 - May 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think its fair to question decisions.
You can still back Cook long term but express surprised and doubt about some of his appointments. |
I agree. | |
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:20 - May 14 with 1591 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:19 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
I agree. |
Thankyou.... thats never happened to me on here before.
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| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:21 - May 14 with 1595 views | SouperJim |
| Decent promotion for Ian Craney.... on 16:07 - May 14 by PhilTWTD |
I'm similarly wondering re an assistant manager. Don't think Kieron is now going to be involved in the first-team staff. |
Is it possible that Craney is replacing Pullen as kitman and they're just being crafty with his job title?
It'll be massive blow for me if Kieron isn't involved. Have been so impressed with his press stuff of late, including how he spoke on BT Sport following the U18s semi-final the other night. We desperately need someone who understands this club to be part of the setup. |  |
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