| First team players training with the U23s 12:24 - Jun 23 with 4082 views | Radlett_blue |
Doing this to players like Downes, Dobra & Jackson is an interesting way of trying to get full transfer value for players Cook apparently doesn't want. Can we see a list of those down for first team training?
Cook is going all-in and if we don't have a good season, hard to see him lasting long. |  |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 12:25 - Jun 23 with 3219 views | positivity |
"first team" 11 is in the news story |  |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 12:28 - Jun 23 with 3189 views | ITFC_96 |
Wonder where all the people who were saying that "it can't be true that he's told them not to turn up for training with the first team, surely not?" are now. | | | |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:30 - Jun 23 with 3150 views | unstableblue |
Phil's article is an absolute bombshell.
To be under a week away from Pre-season and there are only 11 players in the first team dressing room... is just whacked out
Yes Downes, Kenlock, Jackson and Bishop may well leave but they are proven first team players... and surely the remaining 11 players need someone to actually train against.
Are we assuming the 11 will train with the much larger U23 group? but different dressing rooms.
One things for sure - Mark Ashton needs to fix what looks like a basket case - is to sign 9 players very very quickly.
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:38 - Jun 23 with 3058 views | Illinoisblue |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:30 - Jun 23 by unstableblue |
Phil's article is an absolute bombshell.
To be under a week away from Pre-season and there are only 11 players in the first team dressing room... is just whacked out
Yes Downes, Kenlock, Jackson and Bishop may well leave but they are proven first team players... and surely the remaining 11 players need someone to actually train against.
Are we assuming the 11 will train with the much larger U23 group? but different dressing rooms.
One things for sure - Mark Ashton needs to fix what looks like a basket case - is to sign 9 players very very quickly.
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It’s only a bombshell if you haven’t been paying attention these last few months. |  |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:48 - Jun 23 with 2972 views | SitfcB |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:38 - Jun 23 by Illinoisblue |
It’s only a bombshell if you haven’t been paying attention these last few months. |
POTD. |  |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:48 - Jun 23 with 2979 views | itfcjoe |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:38 - Jun 23 by Illinoisblue |
It’s only a bombshell if you haven’t been paying attention these last few months. |
Or insisting that those that do know are making it up |  |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:52 - Jun 23 with 2932 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:30 - Jun 23 by unstableblue |
Phil's article is an absolute bombshell.
To be under a week away from Pre-season and there are only 11 players in the first team dressing room... is just whacked out
Yes Downes, Kenlock, Jackson and Bishop may well leave but they are proven first team players... and surely the remaining 11 players need someone to actually train against.
Are we assuming the 11 will train with the much larger U23 group? but different dressing rooms.
One things for sure - Mark Ashton needs to fix what looks like a basket case - is to sign 9 players very very quickly.
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It is mental, but on the other hand we knew major surgery was coming.
It sounds like PC is sticking to his guns on this and that may be just what's needed. It would be so easy to half-heartedly try to get a few players in, miss out on a fww and end up keeping the bulk of the team together. A team that's been shown to lack the character required to compete.
I think this is a good think, but it's making me nervous and there's still a long way to go to get a decent squad together. |  |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 13:01 - Jun 23 with 2879 views | chrismakin |
It's not really a shock though is it?
Dobra is 20, we were told he was apparently banished from the club, not allowed to use the gym etc BUT there he is with the u23s. As he was last summer and the summer before etc etc so its just training as usual for him, another chance to impress the u23 managers and higher and get himself into the first team picture.
Downes, Bish are off, same with Lancester
Only one I was suprised about is Kenlock, but again depends if he has a transfer in line.
Nice to see Wolfenden with the first team list. |  |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 13:05 - Jun 23 with 2851 views | tractorboy1978 |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:48 - Jun 23 by itfcjoe |
Or insisting that those that do know are making it up |
It's always the same people that look like tits and end up with egg on their faces too. You'd think they would learn.... | | | |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:07 - Jun 23 with 2820 views | pointofblue |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:01 - Jun 23 by chrismakin |
It's not really a shock though is it?
Dobra is 20, we were told he was apparently banished from the club, not allowed to use the gym etc BUT there he is with the u23s. As he was last summer and the summer before etc etc so its just training as usual for him, another chance to impress the u23 managers and higher and get himself into the first team picture.
Downes, Bish are off, same with Lancester
Only one I was suprised about is Kenlock, but again depends if he has a transfer in line.
Nice to see Wolfenden with the first team list. |
Downes is a slight surprise unless he’s really agitating to go. I guess that means we’re looking to bring in two left backs but personally I think Kenlock is good enough as a back up.
Could argue we’ve treated Jackson shabbily - we could have let him go but instead we took up the option just to dump him in the under 23s. I sense Ashton/O’Leary and Cook might be working on different lines regarding him.
Agree on it being good seeing Woolfenden there. | |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 13:07 - Jun 23 with 2829 views | itfcjoe |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 13:05 - Jun 23 by tractorboy1978 |
It's always the same people that look like tits and end up with egg on their faces too. You'd think they would learn.... |
And then even when the evidence states them in the face are able to perform enough mental gymnastics to still think they are right | |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 13:09 - Jun 23 with 2796 views | chrismakin |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:07 - Jun 23 by pointofblue |
Downes is a slight surprise unless he’s really agitating to go. I guess that means we’re looking to bring in two left backs but personally I think Kenlock is good enough as a back up.
Could argue we’ve treated Jackson shabbily - we could have let him go but instead we took up the option just to dump him in the under 23s. I sense Ashton/O’Leary and Cook might be working on different lines regarding him.
Agree on it being good seeing Woolfenden there. |
I would imagine the likes of Downes, Jackson etc are close to signing elsewhere hence their own inclusion in the u23s, definately in Downes's case, Jacksons youd imagine the same really esp after extending his contract.
The more I see Donaciens name, the more I think KVY is going to go left back. | |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 13:13 - Jun 23 with 2751 views | tractorboy1978 |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:09 - Jun 23 by chrismakin |
I would imagine the likes of Downes, Jackson etc are close to signing elsewhere hence their own inclusion in the u23s, definately in Downes's case, Jacksons youd imagine the same really esp after extending his contract.
The more I see Donaciens name, the more I think KVY is going to go left back. |
Imagine the likes of Donacien, Ndaba, Nolan, El Mizouni have a few weeks to impress Cook and if not they won't be here long either. That initial 11 could easily be more like 5 or 6 that'll actually be involved in the first team. Realistically we are possibly looking for another 12+ players to come in. [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 13:20]
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 13:14 - Jun 23 with 2747 views | BryanPlug |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:48 - Jun 23 by itfcjoe |
Or insisting that those that do know are making it up |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 13:32 - Jun 23 with 2597 views | catch74 |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:13 - Jun 23 by tractorboy1978 |
Imagine the likes of Donacien, Ndaba, Nolan, El Mizouni have a few weeks to impress Cook and if not they won't be here long either. That initial 11 could easily be more like 5 or 6 that'll actually be involved in the first team. Realistically we are possibly looking for another 12+ players to come in. [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 13:20]
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Surely that was the figure given - 10% of playing squad to be retained.
Dobra will try and fight for his place, wonder if anyone else has the backbone to.
Nbada maybe needs another season long loan but I guess he’ll be assessed.
There is going to be a huge amount of activity in the next few weeks. |  |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 13:36 - Jun 23 with 2572 views | reusersfreekicks |
Donacien and Nolan with the first team, Bishop Downes and Dobra with the u23s. What a fecking mess |  | | |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:40 - Jun 23 with 2548 views | stopmoaning |
| First team players training with the U23s on 13:01 - Jun 23 by chrismakin |
It's not really a shock though is it?
Dobra is 20, we were told he was apparently banished from the club, not allowed to use the gym etc BUT there he is with the u23s. As he was last summer and the summer before etc etc so its just training as usual for him, another chance to impress the u23 managers and higher and get himself into the first team picture.
Downes, Bish are off, same with Lancester
Only one I was suprised about is Kenlock, but again depends if he has a transfer in line.
Nice to see Wolfenden with the first team list. |
I agree with this. |  | | |
| To clarify on 16:48 - Jun 23 with 2315 views | unstableblue |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:38 - Jun 23 by Illinoisblue |
It’s only a bombshell if you haven’t been paying attention these last few months. |
I have been paying attention these past few months
I do myself also give credence to messaging from trusted posters such as Joe
What I think is a bombshell is that even players who are on their way out, who've been told to leave (but of course may not get offers), who are senior and 'proven' players are not even being allowed access to the first team dressing room.
I thought Cook would have at least kept them in the first team picture, if in part, just so you've got enough players together for training.
I assume - well they'll have to - the U23s will train with the first team through pre-season. But just how fricking weird is the vibe going to be?!?
As stated I back Cook, but this is going to be the radical shift we needed (9 purchases needed).. or is going to blow up in our faces. | |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 16:51 - Jun 23 with 2294 views | unstableblue |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 12:52 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
It is mental, but on the other hand we knew major surgery was coming.
It sounds like PC is sticking to his guns on this and that may be just what's needed. It would be so easy to half-heartedly try to get a few players in, miss out on a fww and end up keeping the bulk of the team together. A team that's been shown to lack the character required to compete.
I think this is a good think, but it's making me nervous and there's still a long way to go to get a decent squad together. |
I also think this is a good thing in some aspects, its the clean break. Unfortunaelt we are 11 players short, and the 11 will be training with the U23s (just for sheer numbers needed) with a very very weird vibe going on.
I just cannot see why Dobra and Downes are not included in the 11, both for me showed real intent in their end of season performances.
In Cook we trust!!! | |
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| To clarify on 16:52 - Jun 23 with 2268 views | chrismakin |
| To clarify on 16:48 - Jun 23 by unstableblue |
I have been paying attention these past few months
I do myself also give credence to messaging from trusted posters such as Joe
What I think is a bombshell is that even players who are on their way out, who've been told to leave (but of course may not get offers), who are senior and 'proven' players are not even being allowed access to the first team dressing room.
I thought Cook would have at least kept them in the first team picture, if in part, just so you've got enough players together for training.
I assume - well they'll have to - the U23s will train with the first team through pre-season. But just how fricking weird is the vibe going to be?!?
As stated I back Cook, but this is going to be the radical shift we needed (9 purchases needed).. or is going to blow up in our faces. |
What is the shock though? Kenlock?
We know Downes, Bish, Lankester are off
We know Drinan is in ireland so when back he'll be in the first team picture
Dobra is training as he was last summer
I see nothing other than Kenlock being the shock, which isn't really a shock... [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 16:57]
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 17:15 - Jun 23 with 2191 views | itfcjoe |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 16:51 - Jun 23 by unstableblue |
I also think this is a good thing in some aspects, its the clean break. Unfortunaelt we are 11 players short, and the 11 will be training with the U23s (just for sheer numbers needed) with a very very weird vibe going on.
I just cannot see why Dobra and Downes are not included in the 11, both for me showed real intent in their end of season performances.
In Cook we trust!!! |
It’s not just 10-11 we need though, because some of those in the ‘first team’ won’t be there for long. At least 4 of those have been told they have a couple of weeks to impress him or they’ll be out - doesn’t take a genius to work out whixh ones Cook hasn’t had a proper look at so far | |
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| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 17:23 - Jun 23 with 2151 views | chrismakin |
| The whole thing is WTF?? isn't it. on 17:15 - Jun 23 by itfcjoe |
It’s not just 10-11 we need though, because some of those in the ‘first team’ won’t be there for long. At least 4 of those have been told they have a couple of weeks to impress him or they’ll be out - doesn’t take a genius to work out whixh ones Cook hasn’t had a proper look at so far |
Depends what PC 's ideal squad size is.
He may only want 15-18 first teamers. Then top up on jan. Then next summer if needed.
Theres the options of loans and of course our Academy to add to the squad if needed. I dont foresee us signing 18 new players. | |
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| First team players training with the U23s on 18:09 - Jun 23 with 2035 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Isn't this a marker by Cook though? He's done similar before, he's saying you want to be part of this, you want to train with the 1st team? Earn it.
Former coaches and players are on record of saying he won't hold grudges if he sees what he wants from you |  |
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| To clarify on 18:43 - Jun 23 with 1954 views | Chocorange |
| To clarify on 16:52 - Jun 23 by chrismakin |
What is the shock though? Kenlock?
We know Downes, Bish, Lankester are off
We know Drinan is in ireland so when back he'll be in the first team picture
Dobra is training as he was last summer
I see nothing other than Kenlock being the shock, which isn't really a shock... [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 16:57]
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Wouldn’t say it’s a shock but interesting that Dobra Downes Kenlock etc get to train with the u23s
While El Miz Ndaba and Donacien are in the 1st team squad ,
all 3 were out on loan or in El Miz case injured as well, and some expected Janoi to be a Fleetwood player by now or at least long gone. |  | | |
| To clarify on 18:48 - Jun 23 with 1941 views | chrismakin |
| To clarify on 18:43 - Jun 23 by Chocorange |
Wouldn’t say it’s a shock but interesting that Dobra Downes Kenlock etc get to train with the u23s
While El Miz Ndaba and Donacien are in the 1st team squad ,
all 3 were out on loan or in El Miz case injured as well, and some expected Janoi to be a Fleetwood player by now or at least long gone. |
With Ndaba. Donacien etc PC hasnt seen them. Might be looking to see what they have got first hand in a smaller group before making decisions on them. | |
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