| Insulate Britain - wow 14:23 - Oct 4 with 17917 views | galacticoblue |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:06 - Oct 4 with 1233 views | textbackup |
If they just get the terrorists that want to smash vans into people to drive alone these roads it would solve it.
They’d think they’ve done good, these pr1cks would get smaller in numbers.
Win win |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:13 - Oct 4 with 1202 views | monytowbray |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 15:19 - Oct 4 by BlueBadger |
I fear you're scribing a level of competence to our current powers that be that simply isn't there. I suspect they're just the environmental equivalent of PETA. |
I mean, it’s pretty obvious to see and I’m calling it now.
I wouldn’t say it’s competence, just the general public’s ability to easily be manipulated by corporations and money. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:13 - Oct 4 with 1191 views | monytowbray |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:06 - Oct 4 by textbackup |
If they just get the terrorists that want to smash vans into people to drive alone these roads it would solve it.
They’d think they’ve done good, these pr1cks would get smaller in numbers.
Win win |
So you are an advocate for literal terrorism? Cool flex. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:15 - Oct 4 with 1192 views | chicoazul |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 15:32 - Oct 4 by galacticoblue |
Their ´protests´ are endangering lives and are unlawful. |
Many many protests are exactly that. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:17 - Oct 4 with 1174 views | monytowbray |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 14:55 - Oct 4 by ElderGrizzly |
Their main spokesperson was a millionaire property mogul who had a portfolio of uninsulated homes...
When challenged he said he couldn't afford to.
It's not the best hearts and minds winning strategy |
Oh link me to that, I’ve been lazy in my own personal investigations to get perspective as I have had to spend most my time on this topic having to explain the “why” (because climate change is real and a threat) over the group themselves.
XR really need to pipe up on this group IMO, again, screams of someone using the climate crisis to push a profit agenda which is far from the core values of the group. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:17 - Oct 4 with 1176 views | textbackup |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:13 - Oct 4 by monytowbray |
So you are an advocate for literal terrorism? Cool flex. |
I don’t even know what that means. But fck it, yeah I must be. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:17 - Oct 4 with 1175 views | Keno |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 15:59 - Oct 4 by chicoazul |
Hey we gave in to the IRA so.
Plus I think the Govt are taking more and more actions to support IBs aims. Maybe in spite of not because of but still. |
"Hey we gave in to the IRA so"
No we havent yet, the UK still occupies a quarter of their country |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:24 - Oct 4 with 1131 views | monytowbray |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:17 - Oct 4 by Keno |
"Hey we gave in to the IRA so"
No we havent yet, the UK still occupies a quarter of their country |
The IRA was born of corporate greed and frustrations at power.
Nothing’s changed. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 with 1126 views | bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:35 - Oct 4 with 1078 views | Fixed_It |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |
All well and good until one of your relatives is stuck in an ambulance trying to get to hospital... |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:37 - Oct 4 with 1061 views | textbackup |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |
Imagine spending 18 months locked in, unable to do things, see people, and your final chance to see them in hospital was missed by these cnts. Na your ok mate.
The quicker they get run over or daily beatings the better | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:37 - Oct 4 with 1059 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |
Just you wait until they lay on the tarmac in front of the Jumbo Jet taking you on your next 'around the world in 80 days' holiday mate. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:38 - Oct 4 with 1054 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |
I think one of the problems is that they're attacking not the govt, but the people that they need to convince.
There must be more effective ways of persuading and influencing surely?
The nobleness of the cause isn't in doubt - its the methodology which is probably actually damaging the cause now. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:42 - Oct 4 with 1036 views | chicoazul |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:17 - Oct 4 by Keno |
"Hey we gave in to the IRA so"
No we havent yet, the UK still occupies a quarter of their country |
That’s……quite a way to look at it. The IRA own Ireland. Very interesting. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:43 - Oct 4 with 1027 views | chicoazul |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |
Aren’t you the guy who takes more flights than anyone else here? | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:45 - Oct 4 with 1021 views | bluelagos |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:38 - Oct 4 by giant_stow |
I think one of the problems is that they're attacking not the govt, but the people that they need to convince.
There must be more effective ways of persuading and influencing surely?
The nobleness of the cause isn't in doubt - its the methodology which is probably actually damaging the cause now. |
The issue is Ulla - and I have asked this countless times and no one on here has ever given a coherent answer - is tell me a method of protest, that achieves change, without p*ssing people off.
As one of those guys said, we've been writing letters and signing petitions for years.
Answer me that, and I'll happily jump on the band wagon condemning these guys in the knowledge that there is an alternative effective way of ensuring our politicians take the steps to ensure we protect our planet future - without anoying ordinary people.
Am all ears... I really am. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:45 - Oct 4 with 1017 views | chicoazul |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:38 - Oct 4 by giant_stow |
I think one of the problems is that they're attacking not the govt, but the people that they need to convince.
There must be more effective ways of persuading and influencing surely?
The nobleness of the cause isn't in doubt - its the methodology which is probably actually damaging the cause now. |
But they’re not attacking anyone? They’re only inconveniencing loads. I have no idea if the ambulance thing is true. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:46 - Oct 4 with 1000 views | Fixed_It |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:45 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
The issue is Ulla - and I have asked this countless times and no one on here has ever given a coherent answer - is tell me a method of protest, that achieves change, without p*ssing people off.
As one of those guys said, we've been writing letters and signing petitions for years.
Answer me that, and I'll happily jump on the band wagon condemning these guys in the knowledge that there is an alternative effective way of ensuring our politicians take the steps to ensure we protect our planet future - without anoying ordinary people.
Am all ears... I really am. |
There's a difference between p*ssing people off and endangering lives. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:52 - Oct 4 with 969 views | bluelagos |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:43 - Oct 4 by chicoazul |
Aren’t you the guy who takes more flights than anyone else here? |
No.
In the past 6 years, since retiring I have taken less than one trip per year by plane. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:53 - Oct 4 with 964 views | Keno |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:42 - Oct 4 by chicoazul |
That’s……quite a way to look at it. The IRA own Ireland. Very interesting. |
Ireland should be belong to the Irish people but a quarter of it remains occupied by a foreign power. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:54 - Oct 4 with 962 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:45 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
The issue is Ulla - and I have asked this countless times and no one on here has ever given a coherent answer - is tell me a method of protest, that achieves change, without p*ssing people off.
As one of those guys said, we've been writing letters and signing petitions for years.
Answer me that, and I'll happily jump on the band wagon condemning these guys in the knowledge that there is an alternative effective way of ensuring our politicians take the steps to ensure we protect our planet future - without anoying ordinary people.
Am all ears... I really am. |
I'm not asking you to jump on the band wagon - this is a very complex ethics dilemma and I really do see your point.
One example of a succesful protest not carried out the expense of the general populace would be Marcus Rashford and his food campaign.
One for you: do you think that this campaign has any chance of achieving anything positive? | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:54 - Oct 4 with 959 views | bluelagos |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:46 - Oct 4 by Fixed_It |
There's a difference between p*ssing people off and endangering lives. |
Holding up an ambulance is just stupid - no one's going to say otherwise.
But their protests are about changing govt policy and no one has come up with a more effective way, unless I missed it. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:55 - Oct 4 with 954 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:45 - Oct 4 by chicoazul |
But they’re not attacking anyone? They’re only inconveniencing loads. I have no idea if the ambulance thing is true. |
I'm guessing that lady with the ill mum felt attacked. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:55 - Oct 4 with 954 views | bluelagos |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:54 - Oct 4 by giant_stow |
I'm not asking you to jump on the band wagon - this is a very complex ethics dilemma and I really do see your point.
One example of a succesful protest not carried out the expense of the general populace would be Marcus Rashford and his food campaign.
One for you: do you think that this campaign has any chance of achieving anything positive? |
Yep. I think there is every chance the govt will be more likely to address the levels of energy waste in the UK as a result. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:56 - Oct 4 with 946 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:54 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Holding up an ambulance is just stupid - no one's going to say otherwise.
But their protests are about changing govt policy and no one has come up with a more effective way, unless I missed it. |
There's actually no indication (yet) that this is an effective campaign and I would argue it's actually hardening hearts and minds against their cause.. | |
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