| Insulate Britain - wow 14:23 - Oct 4 with 17911 views | galacticoblue |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 19:25 - Oct 4 with 1367 views | solomon |
Don’t be surprised when this becomes less frequent when the weather gets a tad more chilly and their nether regions are afflicted by Haemorrhoids . |  | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 19:26 - Oct 4 with 1357 views | lowhouseblue |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 19:25 - Oct 4 by solomon |
Don’t be surprised when this becomes less frequent when the weather gets a tad more chilly and their nether regions are afflicted by Haemorrhoids . |
oh come on, surely they understand the importance of layers? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 19:29 - Oct 4 with 1343 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 17:56 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
I agree that sit downs outside parliament are more likely to be effective that on the M25 in impacting the actual decision makers. |
There are very specific and draconian powers in place to suppress demonstrations outside Parliament. Tony Blair initiated them. They have been strengthened since 7/7 and the attacks in Westminster.
The solution is far, far simpler:
Find out the Public Schools where the MPs send their kids and blockade them on dropping off day, and for the whole fortnight afterwards. After two weeks of impromptu home-schooling the MPs will be ready to cave in.
The whole nation will find it hilarious: imagine Boris trying to home school all 16 of his children! | | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 19:41 - Oct 4 with 1316 views | solomon |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 19:26 - Oct 4 by lowhouseblue |
oh come on, surely they understand the importance of layers? |
You’d like to think so | | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 22:56 - Oct 4 with 1160 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 14:50 - Oct 4 by monytowbray |
The more this goes on the less I think it has to do with XR and they are bad actors.
For a start, very specific campaign, to insulate Britain, when XR is about government honesty and opening the platform for solutions.
And then there are MASSIVE corporate interests in that particular message.
I do wonder if someone’s put them there intentionally to undermine the very real threat of climate change. |
The founder of XR seems to endorse their tactics.
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 23:00 - Oct 4 with 1143 views | bazza |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 22:56 - Oct 4 by GlasgowBlue |
The founder of XR seems to endorse their tactics.
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If they held up an ambulance and someone died as a result, they should face manslaughter charges, bunch of fu@kwits. |  | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 23:11 - Oct 4 with 1119 views | Ryorry |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 22:56 - Oct 4 by GlasgowBlue |
The founder of XR seems to endorse their tactics.
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He's just hugely damaged his own cause then. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 00:53 - Oct 5 with 1063 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:27 - Oct 4 by bluelagos |
Imagine being more outraged at the frustrations of commuters / delays caused by environmental protesters than by the ongoing environmental destruction that is occuring on our planet.
Destruction that causes people not to be late for meetings, or to see a relative in hospital, but environmental catastrophe that causes people to die.
If you think I am being simplistic, have a read up of the causes of the conflict in Darfur, and how desertification was a key part in that conflict that is estimated to have cost upwards of 300k lives.
Insulate Britain continue to protest at great personal cost/danger. I for one won't be condemning them, rather listening to them, to their message and recognising that in the big scheme of things, they are the ones on the right side of the environmental argument.
They will undoubtedly p*ss off a lot of people, just like many protesters in history have. That's kind of the point of direct action protesting, to bring to the front of people's minds the need for change. |
You might be a bit annoyed if you lived in an older type house as it would crumble and fall down if you insulated it.
Older houses are designed to breath out moisture. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 06:59 - Oct 5 with 994 views | solomon |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 22:56 - Oct 4 by GlasgowBlue |
The founder of XR seems to endorse their tactics.
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Quite clearly a man not suited to taking the issue of climate change forward to the next stage and getting the wider public on side.
Effectively he’s become extinct. | | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 08:04 - Oct 5 with 942 views | CoachRob |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 18:24 - Oct 4 by lowhouseblue |
they are of course right - retro-fitting insulation is a quick and cost effective way to reduce emissions and it creates jobs. sadly i don't know what more that could do to shut the public's ears to what they're saying. self righteous idiots. |
Interesting that someone who claims to be a trained economist is unaware of rebound and backfire effects. Interesting also, that for someone who claims to be an expert in statistical mechanics that your understanding of thermodynamics is so poor. Given your precognition brag of last week, can't you just tell us whether we solve climate change in 2050? |  | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 08:21 - Oct 5 with 915 views | Herbivore |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 16:56 - Oct 4 by giant_stow |
There's actually no indication (yet) that this is an effective campaign and I would argue it's actually hardening hearts and minds against their cause.. |
If you actually want to not address climate change because of a few protesters then, frankly, you're a dick. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:02 - Oct 5 with 852 views | lowhouseblue |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 08:04 - Oct 5 by CoachRob |
Interesting that someone who claims to be a trained economist is unaware of rebound and backfire effects. Interesting also, that for someone who claims to be an expert in statistical mechanics that your understanding of thermodynamics is so poor. Given your precognition brag of last week, can't you just tell us whether we solve climate change in 2050? |
ah, the weird angry fantasist again. go and follow someone else around eh. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:13 - Oct 5 with 816 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 08:21 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
If you actually want to not address climate change because of a few protesters then, frankly, you're a dick. |
It's human nature for people to kick back when they've been kicked. That's why this is all so counter productive. The protestors need to get people on side, not make enemies. This really isny complicated. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:16 - Oct 5 with 805 views | BiGDonnie |
Shame none of them have been hit by a truck. |  |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:16 - Oct 5 with 802 views | Herbivore |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:13 - Oct 5 by giant_stow |
It's human nature for people to kick back when they've been kicked. That's why this is all so counter productive. The protestors need to get people on side, not make enemies. This really isny complicated. |
People are generally selfish, apathetic and lazy. How much more do they need to know about climate change to get off their arses and do something about it? And yet they do nothing. That they are more angry about people being stuck in traffic than they are about inaction on tackling climate change tells you about their priorities.
Protests are by their nature disruptive and there are plenty of examples throughout history of protest leading to demonstrable change. This government is going hard on trying to quash peaceful protest and it seems there's a worrying public appetite to let them. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:20 - Oct 5 with 788 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 08:21 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
If you actually want to not address climate change because of a few protesters then, frankly, you're a dick. |
He's saying that their actions are counter productive. Do you think that the founder of XR saying he would block a dying patient being rushed to hospital in an ambulance does the cause any good?
It goes back to engaging with people and persuading people of your argument. We've lost that ability. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:21 - Oct 5 with 786 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:16 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
People are generally selfish, apathetic and lazy. How much more do they need to know about climate change to get off their arses and do something about it? And yet they do nothing. That they are more angry about people being stuck in traffic than they are about inaction on tackling climate change tells you about their priorities.
Protests are by their nature disruptive and there are plenty of examples throughout history of protest leading to demonstrable change. This government is going hard on trying to quash peaceful protest and it seems there's a worrying public appetite to let them. |
But when those protests punch down, instead of up, this is what you get.
The self righteous hectoring and controlling certainty needs to change to kindness, understanding and relentless education and persuasion. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:22 - Oct 5 with 780 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:20 - Oct 5 by GlasgowBlue |
He's saying that their actions are counter productive. Do you think that the founder of XR saying he would block a dying patient being rushed to hospital in an ambulance does the cause any good?
It goes back to engaging with people and persuading people of your argument. We've lost that ability. |
Oh sorry I misunderstood! You calling me a dick Herbie?! | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:25 - Oct 5 with 771 views | Herbivore |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:21 - Oct 5 by giant_stow |
But when those protests punch down, instead of up, this is what you get.
The self righteous hectoring and controlling certainty needs to change to kindness, understanding and relentless education and persuasion. |
And what form of protest is going to effectively do all of those things? | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:27 - Oct 5 with 763 views | Herbivore |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:20 - Oct 5 by GlasgowBlue |
He's saying that their actions are counter productive. Do you think that the founder of XR saying he would block a dying patient being rushed to hospital in an ambulance does the cause any good?
It goes back to engaging with people and persuading people of your argument. We've lost that ability. |
The protests aren't about trying to educate people, they are about trying to create pressure on those in power to actually take action. The science on climate change is clear and yet still too little is being done, this isn't an issue of educating those in power, they already know. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:32 - Oct 5 with 747 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:27 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
The protests aren't about trying to educate people, they are about trying to create pressure on those in power to actually take action. The science on climate change is clear and yet still too little is being done, this isn't an issue of educating those in power, they already know. |
Then they should be aiming their actions at the proper targets.
Instead of laying down in a road stopping a woman desperate to get to her mother being rushed to hospital, why aren't they in Manchester keeping Johnson up all night at his hotel?
Do you think that this government will be persuaded to change course based on a handful of people blocking the traffic? | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:32 - Oct 5 with 747 views | giant_stow |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:27 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
The protests aren't about trying to educate people, they are about trying to create pressure on those in power to actually take action. The science on climate change is clear and yet still too little is being done, this isn't an issue of educating those in power, they already know. |
Clearly a fairly hefty chunk of those who vote politicians into power still need educating. Once they're asking for action, the parties will reflect that for natural self preservation and the desire to cling to power.
This process has already been happening and is reflected in political rhetoric from all sides. We just need more of that and quickly. The way to get that is education and persuasion, not punching down. [Post edited 5 Oct 2021 9:33]
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:33 - Oct 5 with 745 views | timothyeo |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:27 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
The protests aren't about trying to educate people, they are about trying to create pressure on those in power to actually take action. The science on climate change is clear and yet still too little is being done, this isn't an issue of educating those in power, they already know. |
Go and protest outside government buildings, or heaven forbid, if you've got the money, insulate your own f**king house.
The unwashed irrelevant pr*cks that think it's understandable compromise to hold up Ambulances have very, very different morals to me and the natural reaction is to then link something as sensible and serious as climate change issues to these bellends. Thus, they aren't helping their cause at all - they need the public on side if they want to create real pressure, they're creating the opposite. | | | |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:39 - Oct 5 with 720 views | Herbivore |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:32 - Oct 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Then they should be aiming their actions at the proper targets.
Instead of laying down in a road stopping a woman desperate to get to her mother being rushed to hospital, why aren't they in Manchester keeping Johnson up all night at his hotel?
Do you think that this government will be persuaded to change course based on a handful of people blocking the traffic? |
Yes, I'm sure there's no security or police presence that would prevent protesters getting anywhere near Johnson or the Tory conference. I'm not particularly in favour of this particular form of protest but the notion that protest shouldn't be disruptive is bizarre. | |
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| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:39 - Oct 5 with 717 views | Herbivore |
| Insulate Britain - wow on 09:32 - Oct 5 by giant_stow |
Clearly a fairly hefty chunk of those who vote politicians into power still need educating. Once they're asking for action, the parties will reflect that for natural self preservation and the desire to cling to power.
This process has already been happening and is reflected in political rhetoric from all sides. We just need more of that and quickly. The way to get that is education and persuasion, not punching down. [Post edited 5 Oct 2021 9:33]
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I think that's a rather naive view. | |
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