I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now 18:48 - Oct 20 with 6463 views | Bluearmy71 | And that feeling (after a start that had some concerns) I can honestly say hand on heart that I am not missing any player we released over the summer, some of those released I loved more than others, a few I would have loved to have stayed but it wasn't to be, no matter where we finish this season I absolutely think one of the craziest things done by a manager of our club in my 44 year ( and counting) following and 33 years at Portman Road watching us history was the right thing to do for Ipswich Town Football Club!! |  | | |  |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 08:03 - Oct 21 with 900 views | LegendofthePhoenix | well said |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 08:56 - Oct 21 with 859 views | tractorboy1978 | It does amuse me that our 2020/21 striker signing for a L1 promotion push is now, more often than not, starting as a centre half for a L2 club. |  | |  |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:16 - Oct 21 with 837 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 22:29 - Oct 20 by itfcjoe | If Colchester win their next game they’ll have made the exact same start as us - 17 points from 13 games |
Except they're in League 2, so not exactly the same at all. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:22 - Oct 21 with 832 views | itfcjoe |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 22:49 - Oct 20 by textbackup | Still, L2, so massive step down for some of them and where they were. |
Only really Chambers and Judge who had started regularly and had offers from clubs in higher divisions. Colchester chairman seems to be running the club into the ground - their lowest attendance for 20 odd years, nothing at all on matchday, not allowed to sit near people, can't choose seats or anything. I was going to head along for a game but just so much hassle - and think watching Frank Nouble up front on his own would send me over the edge |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:27 - Oct 21 with 832 views | Herbivore |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 23:00 - Oct 20 by ArnieM | I don’t think any of last seasons squad would even make the bench for us this season. And I do mean any of them ! |
Two of last season's squad started our last game. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:28 - Oct 21 with 826 views | hoppy |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 22:01 - Oct 20 by Nthsuffolkblue | There is nothing wrong with enjoying seeing our ex-players doing well and it is not mutually exclusive from either us succeeding or it still being the right thing for us as a club and them as players. I have no doubt it was in the best interests of player and club in both of those cases. |
That’s the way I see it. I’ve always been interested in how ex players are doing with their moves, and it in no way detracts from my support of Town. I always like to see them do well.. unless they’ve in some way found themselves at Norwich. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:29 - Oct 21 with 824 views | hype313 |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 08:00 - Oct 21 by Dubtractor | Not surprising that people are more interested in the career of two highly rated kids that came through our youth system, compared with a load of old pros winding down their career is it? |
Especially the ones where have a vested interest financially. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:41 - Oct 21 with 798 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
If they're not even good enough for Colchester then that's Cook vindicated I'd say. I thought they were meant to be title contenders. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:42 - Oct 21 with 798 views | hype313 |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:41 - Oct 21 by The_Flashing_Smile | If they're not even good enough for Colchester then that's Cook vindicated I'd say. I thought they were meant to be title contenders. |
Interesting comment "Judge - people were telling me he was a great signing. Has shown me nothing yet" De Ja Vu here. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:49 - Oct 21 with 779 views | itfcjoe |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:41 - Oct 21 by The_Flashing_Smile | If they're not even good enough for Colchester then that's Cook vindicated I'd say. I thought they were meant to be title contenders. |
The bookies had them somewhere between 15th and 17th at start of the season so you should have backed them if thought they would be title contenders! |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:51 - Oct 21 with 775 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:49 - Oct 21 by itfcjoe | The bookies had them somewhere between 15th and 17th at start of the season so you should have backed them if thought they would be title contenders! |
I didn't think they were - there was chat on here that they were. Hence the word "meant" Joseph! |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 09:59 - Oct 21 with 752 views | BlueySwede | As someone else said, they are not Ipswich players anymore so really no point in missing or bothering about them. I will always have a soft spot for Bishop (shame about his injuries), Skuse and Chambers were good servants and always gave their all for the club, Downes has a lot of talent and also showed passion and good attitude up until Premier League interest started to show, Judge a good player even if he probably had his best days behind him when he joined us. Sears, Dozzell, bundle of loan players..not really bothered. The thing is the club has needed the massive changes, both on and off the field. You never know if it will work out in the end, but we have owners that seem to be here for quite a few years and wiling to invest. We have hope. |  | |  |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:09 - Oct 21 with 740 views | textbackup |
Colu fan at work couldnt/cant believe they signed that lot "they've played together a few years, with apparently better players, and looked sht, now they play together, with worse players, and its worse than i could imagine" |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:16 - Oct 21 with 721 views | itfcjoe |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:09 - Oct 21 by textbackup | Colu fan at work couldnt/cant believe they signed that lot "they've played together a few years, with apparently better players, and looked sht, now they play together, with worse players, and its worse than i could imagine" |
I thought them signing a couple was a good move - realistically with Eastman and Smith there didn't think Chambers was the best signing they could make - but when they signed all of them, it's just such a lack of energy and youth in the team. Think one where individually they were probably all upgrades on what they had - but when you look at the picture they've got a spine of their team with just no pace or youth in it. They've conceded 12 in 12 which is fine, but only scored 9 and can anyone see Sears and Nouble really changing that? |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:22 - Oct 21 with 708 views | textbackup |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:16 - Oct 21 by itfcjoe | I thought them signing a couple was a good move - realistically with Eastman and Smith there didn't think Chambers was the best signing they could make - but when they signed all of them, it's just such a lack of energy and youth in the team. Think one where individually they were probably all upgrades on what they had - but when you look at the picture they've got a spine of their team with just no pace or youth in it. They've conceded 12 in 12 which is fine, but only scored 9 and can anyone see Sears and Nouble really changing that? |
When you see what we have now, to think Sears would come off the bench and muster up nothing weekly. i feel for colu having to watch them two up top |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:23 - Oct 21 with 698 views | itfcjoe |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:22 - Oct 21 by textbackup | When you see what we have now, to think Sears would come off the bench and muster up nothing weekly. i feel for colu having to watch them two up top |
Sears problem is he is the sort of player you bring on to help see out a game, rather than win one - which ins't ideal if you are an attacker! |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:28 - Oct 21 with 641 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:16 - Oct 21 by itfcjoe | I thought them signing a couple was a good move - realistically with Eastman and Smith there didn't think Chambers was the best signing they could make - but when they signed all of them, it's just such a lack of energy and youth in the team. Think one where individually they were probably all upgrades on what they had - but when you look at the picture they've got a spine of their team with just no pace or youth in it. They've conceded 12 in 12 which is fine, but only scored 9 and can anyone see Sears and Nouble really changing that? |
It's amazing really when you consider they've all stepped down a division, and will also not have the gelling issues, that they're not tearing up that league. Even with youth not on their side, the extra quality and experience you'd think would be enough to get them past League 2 cloggers. I don't know League 2 much but I can't imagine there's a lot of quality down there. It seems less surprising now that neither Lambert or Cook could get much out of them in the league above. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:30 - Oct 21 with 634 views | hype313 |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:28 - Oct 21 by The_Flashing_Smile | It's amazing really when you consider they've all stepped down a division, and will also not have the gelling issues, that they're not tearing up that league. Even with youth not on their side, the extra quality and experience you'd think would be enough to get them past League 2 cloggers. I don't know League 2 much but I can't imagine there's a lot of quality down there. It seems less surprising now that neither Lambert or Cook could get much out of them in the league above. |
Tearing up the league? it's Dad's Army down there on a pension pay day. Very well getting a few experienced heads in, but to load it with ageing players without adding a mix of youth in there was always going to be a struggle. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:32 - Oct 21 with 630 views | Herbivore |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 10:16 - Oct 21 by itfcjoe | I thought them signing a couple was a good move - realistically with Eastman and Smith there didn't think Chambers was the best signing they could make - but when they signed all of them, it's just such a lack of energy and youth in the team. Think one where individually they were probably all upgrades on what they had - but when you look at the picture they've got a spine of their team with just no pace or youth in it. They've conceded 12 in 12 which is fine, but only scored 9 and can anyone see Sears and Nouble really changing that? |
Interestingly our record against sides who were in League 2 just a few months ago reads played 3, won 0, drawn 1, lost 2. We've shipped 9 goals and scored 5 in those games. Maybe it's a tougher league than we give it credit for. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:32 - Oct 21 with 630 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:30 - Oct 21 by hype313 | Tearing up the league? it's Dad's Army down there on a pension pay day. Very well getting a few experienced heads in, but to load it with ageing players without adding a mix of youth in there was always going to be a struggle. |
We were expecting most of them to play for us in the league above until Cook ripped up the team (much to the annoyance of some on here). |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:33 - Oct 21 with 626 views | hype313 |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:32 - Oct 21 by The_Flashing_Smile | We were expecting most of them to play for us in the league above until Cook ripped up the team (much to the annoyance of some on here). |
I'd have kept Chambers and Skuse. Chambers as Player Liason offcer and Skuse to do his badges and work with the kids. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:34 - Oct 21 with 624 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:32 - Oct 21 by Herbivore | Interestingly our record against sides who were in League 2 just a few months ago reads played 3, won 0, drawn 1, lost 2. We've shipped 9 goals and scored 5 in those games. Maybe it's a tougher league than we give it credit for. |
But they're not League 2 sides. They're sides who came out of League 2 because they were too good for it, and then also presumably strengthened. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:49 - Oct 21 with 592 views | SE1blue |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:33 - Oct 21 by hype313 | I'd have kept Chambers and Skuse. Chambers as Player Liason offcer and Skuse to do his badges and work with the kids. |
I wouldn’t. They both strike me as really genuine, down-to-earth, good guys. But… They needed to go for the sake of the club and for a positive change of mentality. Life at Ipswich town had become far too comfortable for everyone involved and it was like a small town care home, with little heartbeat and a depressing daily predictability. Both those players had been part of a club failing over a very long period and then choose to go to colchester!?! That’s like going from wearing jogging bottoms to pyjamas. I would’ve been more impressed if they’d decided to go somewhere completely new and unpredictable but, to me, this showed me their current level of ambition and drive. We are definitely best rid. |  |
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I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:49 - Oct 21 with 590 views | itfcjoe |
I've felt like this for 8 weeks or so now on 11:28 - Oct 21 by The_Flashing_Smile | It's amazing really when you consider they've all stepped down a division, and will also not have the gelling issues, that they're not tearing up that league. Even with youth not on their side, the extra quality and experience you'd think would be enough to get them past League 2 cloggers. I don't know League 2 much but I can't imagine there's a lot of quality down there. It seems less surprising now that neither Lambert or Cook could get much out of them in the league above. |
I don't think it is that big a surprise, there's little difference between league 1 and League 2 when you get outside the top 8-10 of this division. Out of those that dropped down, only Chambers and Judge started regularly for us, Sears was not the same player post injury, Skuse started one game last season and mad that he got a 2 year deal at his age. They still have the rest of the team to gel with. Whilst it is 'Ipswich old boys' - Gerken can't get in the team, Eastman played for us a decade ago, Smith left a few years back. |  |
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