| Last season vs this season for Cook 06:33 - Oct 31 with 14705 views | itfcjoe |
Last season
P16 W4 D7 L5 - 19 points
This season
P15 W5 D5 L5 - 20 points
Wycombe away to come on Tuesday. [Post edited 31 Oct 2021 7:56]
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:05 - Nov 1 with 859 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 08:50 - Nov 1 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'At least we took a point from a tough place to visit that was Rochdale' 
That was with the same manager whom you keep slating don't you know? [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 8:53]
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Herbs is so binary about everything. We lost so Cook's bad. No nuance, context, mitigating circumstances... in fact nothing about football. It's just the end result and league placing for him, on a weekly basis. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 9:06]
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:13 - Nov 1 with 826 views | footers |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:05 - Nov 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Herbs is so binary about everything. We lost so Cook's bad. No nuance, context, mitigating circumstances... in fact nothing about football. It's just the end result and league placing for him, on a weekly basis. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 9:06]
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Should we write to the league and ask them to adjust our position based on playing prettier than we did?
Herb is right to base an opinion on points and league position because it's all that ultimately matters [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 9:15]
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:16 - Nov 1 with 802 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:13 - Nov 1 by footers |
Should we write to the league and ask them to adjust our position based on playing prettier than we did?
Herb is right to base an opinion on points and league position because it's all that ultimately matters [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 9:15]
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At the end of the season it does. On a game by game basis it's useful to look at what actually happened in the game, the build up etc etc. Otherwise you might as well just watch the BBC website's score update page and be done with actual football. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:22 - Nov 1 with 766 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:05 - Nov 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Herbs is so binary about everything. We lost so Cook's bad. No nuance, context, mitigating circumstances... in fact nothing about football. It's just the end result and league placing for him, on a weekly basis. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 9:06]
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He was raving about the Cowleys during their honeymoon period with Portsmouth last March/April. Wonder how they are doing now. |  | | |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:24 - Nov 1 with 767 views | LankHenners |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:16 - Nov 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
At the end of the season it does. On a game by game basis it's useful to look at what actually happened in the game, the build up etc etc. Otherwise you might as well just watch the BBC website's score update page and be done with actual football. |
What happened in the game was we threw away a lead through a combination of poor defending and an inability to deal with being put under pressure, a recurring theme this season, particularly away from home. |  |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:36 - Nov 1 with 728 views | Bluedandy |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:13 - Nov 1 by footers |
Should we write to the league and ask them to adjust our position based on playing prettier than we did?
Herb is right to base an opinion on points and league position because it's all that ultimately matters [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 9:15]
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We've averaged a points return of 1.7 from the last 10 league games ... that is play off form .... not brilliant but hardly case for dismissal.
After beating Crewe at the end of October last year we went into the top two, most Town fans knew it wouldn't last because the football was rudimentary dirge and they were right.
Style does matter because it's usually indicative of an underlying trend/quality that's borne out over an entire season rather than the first 15 games.
It's why most Blackpool fans weren't calling for Critchley's head when their club was 9 points from the play offs in February. |  | | |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:03 - Nov 1 with 688 views | DavoIPB |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:55 - Oct 31 by bobbyramsey |
It amazes me that people don't actually listen to what our owners say.
Johnson only last week said that promotion may not happen this year, it wasn't the end of the world, long term project etc,etc,etc. |
Yep it's like people can't listen. Ashton said this was a long term project and promotion but obviously the goal (as it is for every club) but it may not happen this year. He said things still needed to be put in place for the January transfer window so expect things to change again.
Probably not promotion this season but could well be next season. We are a league one club with players of a high league 1 low championship quality so if we performed to our absolute best each week we would probably be in top six. We haven't performed to our best so we sit mid table.
We could have drawn against the top team in the league easily and played well. Plymouth looked like the best team we have played this season and we matched them.
We all need to lower our expectations to be realistic about the players we have and the time it will take to build this club back to where it can be. | | | |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:16 - Nov 1 with 669 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:24 - Nov 1 by LankHenners |
What happened in the game was we threw away a lead through a combination of poor defending and an inability to deal with being put under pressure, a recurring theme this season, particularly away from home. |
And the fact that we missed several gilt edged chances. Funny how you fail to mention those. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:24 - Nov 1 with 654 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 08:03 - Nov 1 by braveblue |
Well said. Bored with moaning and unrealistic expectations. Last season was a write off. This season we have played well, been very unlucky at times, made a few vital mistakes. We are not far off being a very good side. |
Last season wasn’t written off until PC mucked up. |  |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:28 - Nov 1 with 641 views | Herbivore |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 09:22 - Nov 1 by Mach_foreignBlue |
He was raving about the Cowleys during their honeymoon period with Portsmouth last March/April. Wonder how they are doing now. |
I think you're confusing me with someone else, I don't recall raving about the Cowleys. Cook was my preference over them. |  |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:36 - Nov 1 with 625 views | LankHenners |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:16 - Nov 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
And the fact that we missed several gilt edged chances. Funny how you fail to mention those. |
Plymouth missed chances that could have put the game to bed before we got to that point. Even if we scored one of them, why does that mean the draw (or more) would have been secured? Plymouth could’ve pushed back and scored again which is why basing games on ‘what if’ is a bit pointless. Ultimately, the things that could’ve happened didn’t happen and we dropped points, very much not for the first time. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:44 - Nov 1 with 609 views | Herbivore |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:36 - Nov 1 by LankHenners |
Plymouth missed chances that could have put the game to bed before we got to that point. Even if we scored one of them, why does that mean the draw (or more) would have been secured? Plymouth could’ve pushed back and scored again which is why basing games on ‘what if’ is a bit pointless. Ultimately, the things that could’ve happened didn’t happen and we dropped points, very much not for the first time. |
As we caveat every defeat or disappointing draw with what could have happened the season slowly ticks away and leaves us behind again. It happened in Lambert's tenure as well and the same fans were saying the same things then. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:51 - Nov 1 with 587 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:28 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
I think you're confusing me with someone else, I don't recall raving about the Cowleys. Cook was my preference over them. |
You were quick to underline the Cowleys cynism the had managed to instil in the Portsmouth team. | | | |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:52 - Nov 1 with 585 views | Herbivore |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:51 - Nov 1 by Mach_foreignBlue |
You were quick to underline the Cowleys cynism the had managed to instil in the Portsmouth team. |
Eh? | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:55 - Nov 1 with 571 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:36 - Nov 1 by LankHenners |
Plymouth missed chances that could have put the game to bed before we got to that point. Even if we scored one of them, why does that mean the draw (or more) would have been secured? Plymouth could’ve pushed back and scored again which is why basing games on ‘what if’ is a bit pointless. Ultimately, the things that could’ve happened didn’t happen and we dropped points, very much not for the first time. |
Depends if you're a pint half full or half empty person. We missed an absolute sitter at 0-0. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:01 - Nov 1 with 559 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:44 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
As we caveat every defeat or disappointing draw with what could have happened the season slowly ticks away and leaves us behind again. It happened in Lambert's tenure as well and the same fans were saying the same things then. |
What's you answer then? You've said you don't want to sack Cook yet, so all you apparently want to do is whinge and moan on here, and downarrow anything I post (including facts) without having the balls to engage.
You're worse than Blubbers. At least Blubbers had conviction. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:05 - Nov 1 with 552 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:52 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Eh? |
Yes you were talking about their cynism they managed to instil into their team last March. I remember this very well. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 11:08]
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:21 - Nov 1 with 525 views | Herbivore |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:05 - Nov 1 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Yes you were talking about their cynism they managed to instil into their team last March. I remember this very well. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 11:08]
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What is cynism? And how would me discussing whatever cynism is be equivalent to me "raving" about the Cowleys? Sounds more like a standard discussion on a football forum. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:27 - Nov 1 with 509 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:21 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
What is cynism? And how would me discussing whatever cynism is be equivalent to me "raving" about the Cowleys? Sounds more like a standard discussion on a football forum. |
A cynicism I meant. You were so quick to underline it. | | | |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:31 - Nov 1 with 498 views | Herbivore |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:27 - Nov 1 by Mach_foreignBlue |
A cynicism I meant. You were so quick to underline it. |
Righto. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:33 - Nov 1 with 491 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:31 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Righto. |
Pretty obvious what he meant. | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:35 - Nov 1 with 485 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:31 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Righto. |
Yeah. Took you a quick time to admire them last March during their honeymoon period. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 11:37]
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:57 - Nov 1 with 475 views | itfcjoe |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 10:03 - Nov 1 by DavoIPB |
Yep it's like people can't listen. Ashton said this was a long term project and promotion but obviously the goal (as it is for every club) but it may not happen this year. He said things still needed to be put in place for the January transfer window so expect things to change again.
Probably not promotion this season but could well be next season. We are a league one club with players of a high league 1 low championship quality so if we performed to our absolute best each week we would probably be in top six. We haven't performed to our best so we sit mid table.
We could have drawn against the top team in the league easily and played well. Plymouth looked like the best team we have played this season and we matched them.
We all need to lower our expectations to be realistic about the players we have and the time it will take to build this club back to where it can be. |
When a lot of the fanbase seems content with having another season in this division already the very last thing we need to do is "lower our expectations".
It's embarrassing, and a stain on our club to be in this division - Cook will rightly be feeling the pressure | |
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| Last season vs this season for Cook on 12:05 - Nov 1 with 451 views | Herbivore |
| Last season vs this season for Cook on 11:35 - Nov 1 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Yeah. Took you a quick time to admire them last March during their honeymoon period. [Post edited 1 Nov 2021 11:37]
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Yeah, I can't stop banging on about how amazing the Cowleys are. It's all I post about. | |
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