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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... 11:40 - Nov 15 with 3565 viewsElderGrizzly

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 11:58 - Nov 15 with 3117 viewsVaughan8

These reports aren't doing anything for people with the same name as him..........

I don't know too much about this but at the moment it seems a bit "he said, she said"?
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:03 - Nov 15 with 3065 viewsCotty

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 11:58 - Nov 15 by Vaughan8

These reports aren't doing anything for people with the same name as him..........

I don't know too much about this but at the moment it seems a bit "he said, she said"?


Not really, it's more "he said, he's denied, but these other two people have corroborated those reports".
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:05 - Nov 15 with 3033 viewschicoazul

Pleased to be able to say today by chicoazul 5 Nov 2021 13:29
I always thought Michael Vaughan was a wrong one.


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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:07 - Nov 15 with 3023 viewsXYZ

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:03 - Nov 15 by Cotty

Not really, it's more "he said, he's denied, but these other two people have corroborated those reports".


Quite. This is a very brave move by Rashid, given his status as a current player. No doubt he'll be seen as a "grass" by those wallowing in the status quo.

Worrying noises coming out of Essex CCC with some regularity now too.
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:12 - Nov 15 with 2978 viewsVaughan8

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:03 - Nov 15 by Cotty

Not really, it's more "he said, he's denied, but these other two people have corroborated those reports".


So 3 players have said it happened but 1 doesn't recall it?

Just seen that thread by chico and it is weird he asked Ali to do more about tewrrorism is a bit strange...

Don't think there was any need for the downvote without at least a response (not you!)
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 13:16 - Nov 15 with 2657 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 11:58 - Nov 15 by Vaughan8

These reports aren't doing anything for people with the same name as him..........

I don't know too much about this but at the moment it seems a bit "he said, she said"?


To be honest, it seems a bit "bloke has confidence destroyed by repetitive racist "banter", suffers mental ill health, becomes suicidal, loses his career and institution does all it can to ignore his complaints and bury allegations against individuals because they are powerful figures within that institution" to me.

There was an investigation and a report. Individuals have been named. The Committee at Yorkshire Cricket sat on it and hoped it would all go away.

It's disgusting and appalling when institutions cover stuff up to prevent reputational damage, and treat effected individuals as collateral damage, whether that be child abuse cases, environmental/pollution/emissions scandal whistle blowing, cultures of misogynistic sexual predation and assault, or racist abuse.

It's not "he said, she said", it's "They said racist things, he told the truth, they covered it up".
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 13:23 - Nov 15 with 2578 viewsNthQldITFC

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:07 - Nov 15 by XYZ

Quite. This is a very brave move by Rashid, given his status as a current player. No doubt he'll be seen as a "grass" by those wallowing in the status quo.

Worrying noises coming out of Essex CCC with some regularity now too.


Brave, but the right thing to do assuming it is true, and hopefully he'll have overwhelming support from all of his teammates. Good on him.

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:11 - Nov 15 with 2263 viewsKievthegreat

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:07 - Nov 15 by XYZ

Quite. This is a very brave move by Rashid, given his status as a current player. No doubt he'll be seen as a "grass" by those wallowing in the status quo.

Worrying noises coming out of Essex CCC with some regularity now too.


I was going to say that what's more worrying about Essex is that searching "Essex cricket" on Twitter, most of the posts are talking about it being a bandwagon, witchhunt, after a payout, etc...

But then another story breaks with new allegations...

No one is named and they are apparently no longer at the club, but it appears some of the allegations were complained about at the time.

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:18 - Nov 15 with 2216 viewsXYZ

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:11 - Nov 15 by Kievthegreat

I was going to say that what's more worrying about Essex is that searching "Essex cricket" on Twitter, most of the posts are talking about it being a bandwagon, witchhunt, after a payout, etc...

But then another story breaks with new allegations...

No one is named and they are apparently no longer at the club, but it appears some of the allegations were complained about at the time.



I wish I was shocked.

John Stephenson's job is going to be a little different than he would have anticipated.
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:25 - Nov 15 with 2170 viewsFtnfwest

prison sentence then if there's any consistency
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:26 - Nov 15 with 2161 viewsHerbivore

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:25 - Nov 15 by Ftnfwest

prison sentence then if there's any consistency


Eh?

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:40 - Nov 15 with 2056 viewsBlueBadger

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:26 - Nov 15 by Herbivore

Eh?



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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:44 - Nov 15 with 2031 viewsBlueBadger

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:11 - Nov 15 by Kievthegreat

I was going to say that what's more worrying about Essex is that searching "Essex cricket" on Twitter, most of the posts are talking about it being a bandwagon, witchhunt, after a payout, etc...

But then another story breaks with new allegations...

No one is named and they are apparently no longer at the club, but it appears some of the allegations were complained about at the time.



I'm not wholly surprised at these stories coming out of Essex CCC - when I lived in Chelmsford in the early 2000's I used a gym that Essex used to use as well. I'd occasionally be leaving as they were all coming in, with some particularly unpleasant 'bantz' aimed at a young asian lad in particular.
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:46 - Nov 15 with 2002 viewsFtnfwest

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:26 - Nov 15 by Herbivore

Eh?


Well like the post euro 2020 Neanderthal, got to show there's no 'inbetweens', racism is racism.
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:59 - Nov 15 with 1921 viewsHerbivore

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:46 - Nov 15 by Ftnfwest

Well like the post euro 2020 Neanderthal, got to show there's no 'inbetweens', racism is racism.


I agree there should be no tolerance of racism but is prison always the right answer? In fact in this particular instance I'm not certain what offence Vaughan could actually be charged with.

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 16:06 - Nov 15 with 1866 viewsBlueBadger

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:59 - Nov 15 by Herbivore

I agree there should be no tolerance of racism but is prison always the right answer? In fact in this particular instance I'm not certain what offence Vaughan could actually be charged with.


The Tedious and Pathetic Banter Act of 2014?

Also known as 'Norwood's law'.
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:14 - Nov 16 with 1341 viewsElderGrizzly

The testimony this morning from Rafiq is truly shocking

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:18 - Nov 16 with 1318 viewsHerbivore

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:14 - Nov 16 by ElderGrizzly

The testimony this morning from Rafiq is truly shocking



Think that counts as aggravated assault to be honest.

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:19 - Nov 16 with 1309 viewsunbelievablue

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:14 - Nov 16 by ElderGrizzly

The testimony this morning from Rafiq is truly shocking



Awful but I am not shocked at all.

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:25 - Nov 16 with 1284 viewsGlasgowBlue

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 15:11 - Nov 15 by Kievthegreat

I was going to say that what's more worrying about Essex is that searching "Essex cricket" on Twitter, most of the posts are talking about it being a bandwagon, witchhunt, after a payout, etc...

But then another story breaks with new allegations...

No one is named and they are apparently no longer at the club, but it appears some of the allegations were complained about at the time.



Jesus Christ!!

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:31 - Nov 16 with 1135 viewsfergalsharkey

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:18 - Nov 16 by Herbivore

Think that counts as aggravated assault to be honest.


not good
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:33 - Nov 16 with 1125 viewsunbelievablue

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:31 - Nov 16 by fergalsharkey

not good
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Am I about to get whooshed?

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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 13:34 - Nov 16 with 994 viewshatch

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 10:25 - Nov 16 by GlasgowBlue

Jesus Christ!!


I shouldn't be surprised but I thought I was bad with some of my unconscious bias after reflecting on the BLM movement, but hearing some of these stories is just crazy. I remember when I was in my teens about 15 years ago I probably would have said things that I would regret now through pure naivety and an upbringing in the relatively low diversity of the Suffolk coast. However I can't even fathom the sort of allegations we're reading coming from Essex & Yorkshire. It's beyond belief - even without the racist nature it's bullying and/or assault.

As for Vaughan, I've never liked his attitude or smugness but will leave my view on the allegations against him alone for the time being.
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 13:43 - Nov 16 with 939 viewsElderGrizzly

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 12:33 - Nov 16 by unbelievablue

Am I about to get whooshed?


He changed his response, which initially said the claims were b@llocks
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Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 13:51 - Nov 16 with 899 viewsHerbivore

Michael Vaughan appears to be cooked... on 13:43 - Nov 16 by ElderGrizzly

He changed his response, which initially said the claims were b@llocks


A sh!t troll on the wind up over claims of racism? I'm shocked.

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