You ‘cook out’ idiots 21:44 - Dec 7 with 8821 views | unstableblue | It was always the players, always, couldn’t you see that?? Worst Town performance since Micks last season. One of the key runs of fixtures and we sack the manager. NO WAY WE WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT BAD WITH COOK IN CHARGE!!! |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:41 - Dec 8 with 640 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:33 - Dec 8 by GlasgowBlue | The season isn’t over. We were two wins and a draw off the play offs. Now we are three wins off the play offs. With the right management and the right motivator, that’s doable. |
I didn't say it was over. But Herbs and others were saying we need 2 points per game to make the play offs and Cook wasn't going to get them... we remove him and the players, many of whom came here because of Cook, put in their worst, or close to worst, performance of the season. I said a couple of days ago the upheaval could be shooting ourselves in the foot, that we might have been better off sticking with Cook, giving him Jan to fix a few issues that didn't work from his first window, and here we are. I'm not expecting any better away at Wigan either. Unstable may be more at the Unstable end, but he has a point. Some people were telling me we aren't a basket case of a club. I'm not so sure. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:43 - Dec 8 with 635 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:33 - Dec 8 by Dubtractor | Yeah, if you ignore all the games under Cook where we collapsed under any kind of pressure, we never performed like that. |
Last night was worse than any Cook performance to me, even Bolton at home. Walton was unbelievable - without him it would've been 6-0. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:47 - Dec 8 with 615 views | Dubtractor |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:43 - Dec 8 by The_Flashing_Smile | Last night was worse than any Cook performance to me, even Bolton at home. Walton was unbelievable - without him it would've been 6-0. |
Was it the worst performance? Maybe, it certainly was dreadful. But it definitely wasn't the outlier that some are making out. We have wilted under any kind of pressure consistently since Cook joined us, both last season and this one. I don't know if it is lack of fight in the team, or poor tactics, but it has been a defining feature of the last 9 months. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:52 - Dec 8 with 597 views | Yallop |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:26 - Dec 8 by Herbivore | Second half at Cheltenham and Accrington spring to mind off the top of my head. Really poor. The difference last night was we didn't score first but the collapse after conceding was classic Town under Cook. |
We couldn't have scored first because we didn't have a shot |  | |  |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:52 - Dec 8 with 597 views | Herbivore |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:33 - Dec 8 by GlasgowBlue | The season isn’t over. We were two wins and a draw off the play offs. Now we are three wins off the play offs. With the right management and the right motivator, that’s doable. |
Indeed. It's not over, but it will require the new manager to turn things around very quickly. Whether that is possible or not we will soon find out but even if we don't make the top 6 it's about a new manager making us work as a team and improving us significantly. I wouldn't put too much stock in what Dollers is saying though, he's looking for a row as usual, think he's pretty butt hurt that he backed the wrong horse again. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:54 - Dec 8 with 586 views | Herbivore |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:52 - Dec 8 by Yallop | We couldn't have scored first because we didn't have a shot |
Much like the Rotherham game then. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:58 - Dec 8 with 579 views | Yallop |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:54 - Dec 8 by Herbivore | Much like the Rotherham game then. |
For once I agree with you but Rotherham are a lot better side than Charlton |  | |  |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:01 - Dec 8 with 576 views | Herbivore |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:58 - Dec 8 by Yallop | For once I agree with you but Rotherham are a lot better side than Charlton |
We were at home against Rotherham with a manager who had been in charge for much longer than one day. I'm also not sure Rotherham were THAT much better, Charlton are on a good run at home (4 wins out of 5) and their front 2 looked very handy. Both games were similar, 20 minutes of looking average with little in the game, concede a sloppy goal and then never look remotely like getting back into it. Last night was a continuation of what Cook has built here, which shouldn't be a surprise given that McGreal has only had one day with the squad. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:05 - Dec 8 with 562 views | lowhouseblue |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:01 - Dec 8 by Herbivore | We were at home against Rotherham with a manager who had been in charge for much longer than one day. I'm also not sure Rotherham were THAT much better, Charlton are on a good run at home (4 wins out of 5) and their front 2 looked very handy. Both games were similar, 20 minutes of looking average with little in the game, concede a sloppy goal and then never look remotely like getting back into it. Last night was a continuation of what Cook has built here, which shouldn't be a surprise given that McGreal has only had one day with the squad. |
i do think that the one person in all this i wouldn't attach any blame to is mcgreal. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:06 - Dec 8 with 559 views | WD19 |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 21:44 - Dec 7 by MillsTash | Who bought these players? |
There is an obvious answer to this question. He even did an interview to camera after the window congratulating himself. |  | |  |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:06 - Dec 8 with 559 views | Yallop |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:01 - Dec 8 by Herbivore | We were at home against Rotherham with a manager who had been in charge for much longer than one day. I'm also not sure Rotherham were THAT much better, Charlton are on a good run at home (4 wins out of 5) and their front 2 looked very handy. Both games were similar, 20 minutes of looking average with little in the game, concede a sloppy goal and then never look remotely like getting back into it. Last night was a continuation of what Cook has built here, which shouldn't be a surprise given that McGreal has only had one day with the squad. |
Again I agree with some of that although in my opinion there is a big difference in that Rotherham will stroll to promotion where as Charlton will be nowhere near |  | |  |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:20 - Dec 8 with 532 views | timothyeo |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:29 - Dec 8 by The_Flashing_Smile | "To suggest that losing this one game means our season is over is bed wetting of the highest order." That's exactly what you'd have said if Cook had been in charge. |
Well duh, because Cook has proven he can't get close to the 2 PPG average required. So if Cook was still in charge and we lost, it would just further prove that. As it is, there's a chance a new manager could produce much better results on average than Cook, so there is a faint hope. Like I said elsewhere and at the time, the owners have likely left it too late which is a shame. |  | |  |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:27 - Dec 8 with 519 views | itfcjoe |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:43 - Dec 8 by The_Flashing_Smile | Last night was worse than any Cook performance to me, even Bolton at home. Walton was unbelievable - without him it would've been 6-0. |
Charlotn's xG was 2.27 - of course they could have scored 6 but you expect your keeper to save some shots as he did last night. Chances are, like Rotherham, had they got their 2nd goal earlier they'd have just toyed with us to save energy |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:38 - Dec 8 with 487 views | JDB23 | Ah yes, claiming the season is over after one game but wetting yourself over the fact we sacked the guy who was responsible for the previous 20 that put us here in the first place. You got something stuck underneath your caps lock button? |  | |  |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 11:30 - Dec 8 with 453 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 08:52 - Dec 8 by Herbivore | Indeed. It's not over, but it will require the new manager to turn things around very quickly. Whether that is possible or not we will soon find out but even if we don't make the top 6 it's about a new manager making us work as a team and improving us significantly. I wouldn't put too much stock in what Dollers is saying though, he's looking for a row as usual, think he's pretty butt hurt that he backed the wrong horse again. |
LOL, you claim I'm look for a row and yet you're the one who describes me as being "butt hurt"! Unbelievable, Jeff! [Post edited 8 Dec 2021 11:31]
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 11:34 - Dec 8 with 443 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:20 - Dec 8 by timothyeo | Well duh, because Cook has proven he can't get close to the 2 PPG average required. So if Cook was still in charge and we lost, it would just further prove that. As it is, there's a chance a new manager could produce much better results on average than Cook, so there is a faint hope. Like I said elsewhere and at the time, the owners have likely left it too late which is a shame. |
LOL, so if we lose under Cook the season's over, if we lose under anyone else there's still a chance! |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 11:36 - Dec 8 with 428 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:27 - Dec 8 by itfcjoe | Charlotn's xG was 2.27 - of course they could have scored 6 but you expect your keeper to save some shots as he did last night. Chances are, like Rotherham, had they got their 2nd goal earlier they'd have just toyed with us to save energy |
I couldn't care less about the expected goals nonsense as I've said several times. Lots of people have said it could've been a cricket score if not for Walton and I agree with them. Nobody else has looked likely to score so many whilst we have nothing on target. |  |
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You ‘cook out’ idiots on 14:06 - Dec 8 with 359 views | positivity |
You ‘cook out’ idiots on 09:27 - Dec 8 by itfcjoe | Charlotn's xG was 2.27 - of course they could have scored 6 but you expect your keeper to save some shots as he did last night. Chances are, like Rotherham, had they got their 2nd goal earlier they'd have just toyed with us to save energy |
the bolton game xG was 1.0-2.3, so even by that metric last night was worse! |  |
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