| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. 11:17 - Mar 9 with 10152 views | Lord_Lucan |
Because I am stoopid I completely forgot about the possible price increase. December I was paying .51p a litre and yesterday it was £1.19
There isn't even much point in reducing the load because it will probably go up again.
Tighten your belts and hang on tight TW4TDers - I think it's only just begun! |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 21:32 - Mar 9 with 2591 views | Vic |
What do you guys all set your thermostats at? |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 21:37 - Mar 9 with 2582 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 11:43 - Mar 9 by bluelagos |
Fck yeah, oil on the markets went negative for a little while too.
Lucan highlights a real issue, energy prices are going to go up for everyone at a time when many are struggling anyway.
Our reliance on fossil fuels - imported ones too - looks ever more short sighted irrespective of the environmental damage they do too.
Time to insulate Britain maybe? Or at least stick a heat pump and/or solar panel on every new house? |
Fracking and Nuclear. |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 22:02 - Mar 9 with 2544 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 14:10 - Mar 9 by GeoffSentence |
Yep, we do have a decent sized garden, big enough for a horizontal coil. The main question is whether the various obstructions, there are drains and mains water supply crossing the land, would render it too difficult or expensive. Also whether we'd be able to heat the house and water properly with the lower temperature flow from a GSHP. |
My Dad has a GSHP installed in his 1930s cavity wall detached house a couple of years ago, and has no problems. You just need to make sure the house (walls and loft) after properly insulated and you have a big enough hot water tank installed. |  | | |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 22:03 - Mar 9 with 2542 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 11:43 - Mar 9 by bluelagos |
Fck yeah, oil on the markets went negative for a little while too.
Lucan highlights a real issue, energy prices are going to go up for everyone at a time when many are struggling anyway.
Our reliance on fossil fuels - imported ones too - looks ever more short sighted irrespective of the environmental damage they do too.
Time to insulate Britain maybe? Or at least stick a heat pump and/or solar panel on every new house? |
We were insulating Britain, until 2013...
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 22:59 - Mar 9 with 2513 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 21:32 - Mar 9 by Vic |
What do you guys all set your thermostats at? |
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Edit....6am to 9 am and 4 30 pm to 10:30 pm
But the woodburner often gets it hotter so the central heating doesn't kick in. [Post edited 10 Mar 2022 12:38]
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:25 - Mar 10 with 2416 views | Leaky |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 11:19 - Mar 9 by GeoffSentence |
Yep, given the price of oil I am thinking about the possibility of installing a ground source heat pump. Oil's not going to get any cheaper. |
Hope you have deep pockets GSHP are very expensive. |  | | |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:29 - Mar 10 with 2415 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Yes but still extremely cheap when you consider what they do to make it and transport it - compared to say the equivalent cost of beer. |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:32 - Mar 10 with 2414 views | Leaky |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 12:23 - Mar 9 by Lord_Lucan |
I'll be honest - I am useless with household bills - I just pay the blooming things - but I have always thought our energy costs are high.
So much so that I am asking for a TW4TD opinion here as I'm genuinely concerned I'm going to hit £500 a month
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Why are buying oil when your also using Gas . | | | |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:47 - Mar 10 with 2403 views | WeWereZombies |
Maybe it is worth cancelling the order and waiting for a week or two:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60680787
(This always seems to happen, the oil prices shoot up, and the pump prices even more, and then demand falls away so one of the Arab states breaks rank and starts to go full pelt for market share so that the oil price falls again - as, eventually, do the prices at the pump.) |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 09:16 - Mar 10 with 2374 views | giant_stow |
Extinction Rebellion are planning to block oil refineries in April apparently, which will help. |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 09:19 - Mar 10 with 2360 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 22:59 - Mar 9 by BanksterDebtSlave |
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But the woodburner often gets it hotter so the central heating doesn't kick in. [Post edited 10 Mar 2022 12:38]
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20 6am to 9am
14 9am to 4pm
20 4pm to 7 pm
21 7pm to 10.30pm
14 10.30pm to 6am | |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 09:23 - Mar 10 with 2360 views | Coastalblue |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 12:16 - Mar 9 by Lord_Lucan |
It's a brand new boiler as we had a new one fitted when we put a granny annex on - well 2 years old.
It's a fair size lump to heat to be honest but I always get concerned when people say their bill is in the 100's
I'll look into this heating pump thing. |
If you do decide to look at air source heat pumps, don't just look at the price of them and see how much the biggest fecker costs to get a vague idea, you also have to factor in the fact that you will have to change all your rads for bigger ones because they produce lower temp water.
New build designd around them they're great, retrofit? Not convinced. |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 09:32 - Mar 10 with 2344 views | GeoffSentence |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:25 - Mar 10 by Leaky |
Hope you have deep pockets GSHP are very expensive. |
Right now you need deep pockets to burn oil too. |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 09:38 - Mar 10 with 2335 views | heavyweight |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:25 - Mar 10 by Leaky |
Hope you have deep pockets GSHP are very expensive. |
GSHP are useful but not right for every situation.
I had it installed in a new build 6 years so. Cost as I recall about £16k. There are 400m of pipes outside - 4 x 50m out and back loops at about 4ft deep. I haven't noticed any difference in the plants above ground being affected by the heat loss. For a 3 bedroom detached we use about 10,000kwh per year as a single fuel user. Under floor heating downstairs and radiators upstairs, although we rarely put these on. Thermostat is set to 20c and typically a winter month costs about £200. The best thing about it is the RHI subsidy which means I get a payment of around £2k per year for 7 years after installation - which has pretty much meant free electric for 7 years. Payment is related to how well your house is insulated , we got a high amount as its a new build.
The downsides are : as the house is slow to warm up you have to have it on more or less constantly in the winter. The water temp to radiators is not that hot, so also slow to warm up.
The efficiency of the system reduces the hotter you heat the water, so for the 'luxury' setting of 55c for hw takes a lot more energy in proportion to the 'economy' setting of 45c | | | |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 10:21 - Mar 10 with 2308 views | nodge_blue |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 12:06 - Mar 9 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Low tech wood....lovely, lovely wind fall wood. |
Thats causes air pollution and breathing difficulties for people. Latest research pointing to it needing to be banned.
But yeah as someone with a wood burner, its been my source of heat on cold days too.
You just cant win now. |  |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 10:46 - Mar 10 with 2291 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 08:32 - Mar 10 by Leaky |
Why are buying oil when your also using Gas . |
Oil is for a different property | |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 11:57 - Mar 10 with 2247 views | Leaky |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 09:38 - Mar 10 by heavyweight |
GSHP are useful but not right for every situation.
I had it installed in a new build 6 years so. Cost as I recall about £16k. There are 400m of pipes outside - 4 x 50m out and back loops at about 4ft deep. I haven't noticed any difference in the plants above ground being affected by the heat loss. For a 3 bedroom detached we use about 10,000kwh per year as a single fuel user. Under floor heating downstairs and radiators upstairs, although we rarely put these on. Thermostat is set to 20c and typically a winter month costs about £200. The best thing about it is the RHI subsidy which means I get a payment of around £2k per year for 7 years after installation - which has pretty much meant free electric for 7 years. Payment is related to how well your house is insulated , we got a high amount as its a new build.
The downsides are : as the house is slow to warm up you have to have it on more or less constantly in the winter. The water temp to radiators is not that hot, so also slow to warm up.
The efficiency of the system reduces the hotter you heat the water, so for the 'luxury' setting of 55c for hw takes a lot more energy in proportion to the 'economy' setting of 45c |
You need to boost you hot water to 60c periodically to reduce contamination. | | | |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 12:40 - Mar 10 with 2208 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 10:21 - Mar 10 by nodge_blue |
Thats causes air pollution and breathing difficulties for people. Latest research pointing to it needing to be banned.
But yeah as someone with a wood burner, its been my source of heat on cold days too.
You just cant win now. |
Just wait until people start burning tyres! | |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 13:01 - Mar 10 with 2177 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 12:13 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe |
When the price cap ends my energy bill is due to go up from £161 a month to £380ish - it's currently edged up to £210 for this month but effectively got to find more than £200 a month extra, bloody tough |
Our estimated annual bill is going up from £1900 to £3000 from April. Our DD is still at £120 a month as wasn’t updated when we moved onto the rolling price in Dec so looking at £170 per month extra (which reminds me that I must sort changing it!), which as you say is a lot to find for most people (quite fortunate that we had been saving a decent amount per month so just impacting our ability to save really)
Martin Lewis is currently advising that the cap is projected to rise another 40% in October too based on current wholesale prices, although does note that government intervention is likely |  |
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| [Redacted] on 13:06 - Mar 10 with 2141 views | victorywilhappen |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 10:21 - Mar 10 by nodge_blue |
Thats causes air pollution and breathing difficulties for people. Latest research pointing to it needing to be banned.
But yeah as someone with a wood burner, its been my source of heat on cold days too.
You just cant win now. |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 18:19 - Mar 10 with 2081 views | strikalite |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 21:32 - Mar 9 by Vic |
What do you guys all set your thermostats at? |
17...it comes on in the morning very early but to be honest since I've had the wall insulation this house pretty much then sticks to that for the rest of the day, unless it drops to around 5 degrees or less... |  | | |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 20:51 - Mar 10 with 2046 views | WicklowBlue |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 13:29 - Mar 9 by Lord_Lucan |
I've been fannying around for 6 months trying to decide what electric car to buy. I've gone from Kia to Hyundai to Tesla.
I think I'm going to go for a Tesla but I can't bring myself to push the button.
My expenses have gone through the roof! Our ocean freight has gone from $9,000 per container to $36,000 and we have 7 containers coming in. The cost of delivery from port to our warehouse (1 hour away) is £1000 - all this is going to go up further because of oil costs and I have no doubt the shipping companies will use Ukraine as an excuse to put the prices up as well.
We are having to move to a larger warehouse and because we store explosives the costs are off the scale - I mean, really off the scale.
Everything is going complete tits up. |
Maybe worthy Lucan of a separate thread re. EV's but out of interest why a Tesla?
Depending on budget and what you want the EV for, there are every increasing options out there.
If you want a cheap second hand daily run around then a second hand Leaf or Zoe could do the trick. Naturally watch the mileage as battery range reduces over time.
The Kia E-Niro is a good option in terms of range, versatility and cost effective. Then you have the VW ID range of EV's.
I was starting to think about buying an EV recently until my stock portfolio plunged. Nothing against Tesla's but my choice for a brand new EV would be the Kia EV6 or the Ioniq5 basically the same car with different body/interior serious competitors to the Tesla range. |  | | |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 20:59 - Mar 10 with 2041 views | Coastalblue |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 20:51 - Mar 10 by WicklowBlue |
Maybe worthy Lucan of a separate thread re. EV's but out of interest why a Tesla?
Depending on budget and what you want the EV for, there are every increasing options out there.
If you want a cheap second hand daily run around then a second hand Leaf or Zoe could do the trick. Naturally watch the mileage as battery range reduces over time.
The Kia E-Niro is a good option in terms of range, versatility and cost effective. Then you have the VW ID range of EV's.
I was starting to think about buying an EV recently until my stock portfolio plunged. Nothing against Tesla's but my choice for a brand new EV would be the Kia EV6 or the Ioniq5 basically the same car with different body/interior serious competitors to the Tesla range. |
I do recovery for a living these days, and new Kia E Niro are my most common customer. I wouldn't reccomend one at this point, though I have to say they are very nice to drive. | |
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| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 21:00 - Mar 10 with 2039 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Yesterday I ordered 2000 litres of heating oil without checking the price. on 20:51 - Mar 10 by WicklowBlue |
Maybe worthy Lucan of a separate thread re. EV's but out of interest why a Tesla?
Depending on budget and what you want the EV for, there are every increasing options out there.
If you want a cheap second hand daily run around then a second hand Leaf or Zoe could do the trick. Naturally watch the mileage as battery range reduces over time.
The Kia E-Niro is a good option in terms of range, versatility and cost effective. Then you have the VW ID range of EV's.
I was starting to think about buying an EV recently until my stock portfolio plunged. Nothing against Tesla's but my choice for a brand new EV would be the Kia EV6 or the Ioniq5 basically the same car with different body/interior serious competitors to the Tesla range. |
There was a bit of a thread about this when I first started thinking about it. JAKEITFC recommended the El Niro and I liked it but then I thought I would wait for the new Ioniq to come out - but then I did a bit of further research and I think the charging points with the Teslas made me switch to them.
I like the Tesla with the James Bond doors but it's a bit pricey, I think I am going to go with the Tesla 3 but the prices just won't drop! | |
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