| Private education. 13:05 - Mar 16 with 5198 views | MattinLondon |
My six year old seems to be fairly clever and is always asking questions but at school he is struggling. He seems to withdraw into his shell a lot - he seems to lack confidence and gets lost in a class of thirty.
Has anyone taken their child out of state school and into private education? If so, did you anyone notice any changes in their child’s development etc.
I went to a state school as did my other half. We both have a sort of chip on our shoulders regarding private schooling but if it’ll help then we’ll go down that route. My boy could also be a tad thick but we'll figure that one out later.
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| Private education. on 13:09 - Mar 16 with 2851 views | footers |
All education now seems more about getting kids to jump through hoops to pass exams than anything else, but more so at private schools because of the financial incentive.
Just my two cents but your lad would learn more important life lessons at a state school. Maybe look at tutoring in certain areas he's interested in instead? |  |
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| Private education. on 13:12 - Mar 16 with 2835 views | homer_123 |
| Private education. on 13:09 - Mar 16 by footers |
All education now seems more about getting kids to jump through hoops to pass exams than anything else, but more so at private schools because of the financial incentive.
Just my two cents but your lad would learn more important life lessons at a state school. Maybe look at tutoring in certain areas he's interested in instead? |
Not really jumping through hoops as such but the focus is getting students to a 'minimal' level. State schools are not so interested in helping those kids that could excel or go above and beyond.
The focus is more about getting those that are struggling up to standard (which, of course is not wrong). |  |
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| Private education. on 13:14 - Mar 16 with 2811 views | BlueBadger |
| Private education. on 13:09 - Mar 16 by footers |
All education now seems more about getting kids to jump through hoops to pass exams than anything else, but more so at private schools because of the financial incentive.
Just my two cents but your lad would learn more important life lessons at a state school. Maybe look at tutoring in certain areas he's interested in instead? |
Now remember young Footers, behave yourself this time. |  |
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| Private education. on 13:15 - Mar 16 with 2805 views | Edmundo |
| Private education. on 13:09 - Mar 16 by footers |
All education now seems more about getting kids to jump through hoops to pass exams than anything else, but more so at private schools because of the financial incentive.
Just my two cents but your lad would learn more important life lessons at a state school. Maybe look at tutoring in certain areas he's interested in instead? |
My experience and that of friends with children is that the state schools seem eager to stop things during the last 2 years, but private schools seem more keen on ways to keep going, be it school trips, lessons or sports. It might seem irrelevant now, but there is still a lingering loss of valuable education which might be easier to catch up in a smaller class environment where kids are helped to find their strengths and achieve in sport, academia and life. Just my opinion, and yes, I was privately educated but my partner wasn't. |  |
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| Private education. on 13:16 - Mar 16 with 2794 views | footers |
| Private education. on 13:14 - Mar 16 by BlueBadger |
Now remember young Footers, behave yourself this time. |
Just dipped back to pay my respects to jaykay and his family really.
Spruce and Stokie send their regards to most. | |
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| Private education. on 13:17 - Mar 16 with 2774 views | bluelagos |
| Private education. on 13:16 - Mar 16 by footers |
Just dipped back to pay my respects to jaykay and his family really.
Spruce and Stokie send their regards to most. |
Most? Sounds worrying.
Regards to both if reading :-) |  |
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| Private education. on 13:18 - Mar 16 with 2771 views | Fixed_It |
| Private education. on 13:12 - Mar 16 by homer_123 |
Not really jumping through hoops as such but the focus is getting students to a 'minimal' level. State schools are not so interested in helping those kids that could excel or go above and beyond.
The focus is more about getting those that are struggling up to standard (which, of course is not wrong). |
I disagree. There is very much an effort to 'teach to the top' at good state schools, which in turn raises aspirations for all students. |  |
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| Private education. on 13:20 - Mar 16 with 2745 views | footers |
| Private education. on 13:15 - Mar 16 by Edmundo |
My experience and that of friends with children is that the state schools seem eager to stop things during the last 2 years, but private schools seem more keen on ways to keep going, be it school trips, lessons or sports. It might seem irrelevant now, but there is still a lingering loss of valuable education which might be easier to catch up in a smaller class environment where kids are helped to find their strengths and achieve in sport, academia and life. Just my opinion, and yes, I was privately educated but my partner wasn't. |
Suppose each school is going to be so different that a distinction can't really be made. There are fantastic state schools and private ones, but finding the right one is always going to be tough.
Thankfully I had the best of both worlds and went to good Catholic schools. Sure you had to go to mass most weeks but the teaching was excellent. | |
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| Private education. on 13:21 - Mar 16 with 2734 views | homer_123 |
| Private education. on 13:18 - Mar 16 by Fixed_It |
I disagree. There is very much an effort to 'teach to the top' at good state schools, which in turn raises aspirations for all students. |
Sadly, not been my experience. | |
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| Private education. on 13:22 - Mar 16 with 2725 views | footers |
| Private education. on 13:17 - Mar 16 by bluelagos |
Most? Sounds worrying.
Regards to both if reading :-) |
There's a new tinfoil hat topic in town now... | |
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| Private education. on 13:23 - Mar 16 with 2704 views | bluelagos |
"It depends" is very much the answer here.
Biggest determinant imho to a kids success at school isn't the school, the teachers or the parents, it is the kid and their attitude. Of course a school, the teachers and parents can all play a positive role in that (or sadly a negative one) but I'd be focusing on what motivates your child first and foremost, rather than thinking switching schools is going to solve things.
Get to the bottom of that, and you may come to a conclusion that changing schools is necessary. But you may also discover far easier and cheaper ways of helping them develop as learners. For me changing schools would be way down the line. | |
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| Private education. on 13:23 - Mar 16 with 2699 views | Perublue |
Due to our familial circumstances the choice was taken away (long story) and I can say it made a huge difference to our daughter in a positive way ... and I can hand on heart say through this she has thrived in all ways and potential has been realised .... BUT .. every situation and child is unique in it's reason and result. |  |
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| Private education. on 13:25 - Mar 16 with 2687 views | giant_stow |
Just my little bit, but I'd look to work with the school your kid is at on this before going down the moving schools route.
Just a little warning: My mum and dad were in a very similar boat when my bro was at primary school (felt he was bright and under-achieving) so sent him to a private school in his penultimate year of primary, It was a complete disaster: he hated it, was bullied for being poorer and less well spoken and eventually started destroying things at home as a cry for help. Mum and dad went crawling back to his old school and thankfully the head there diidn't let pride get the way and took him back - he was immediately happier again.
Obviously thats just one story, but tread carefully. |  |
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| Private education. on 13:30 - Mar 16 with 2638 views | Fixed_It |
| Private education. on 13:21 - Mar 16 by homer_123 |
Sadly, not been my experience. |
Certainly that was the narrative in the school I taught at, and is the expectation from OFSTED. However, League Tables do dictate that there is an effort to get the 'borderline' students across the GCSE threshold. A confident school will do that through good teaching aimed at the top. A less confident school will, as seems to be your experience, focus resources on dragging those at the bottom up to 'standard', and spend less time stetching the more able. League Tables are not helpful in this respect I'm afraid. | |
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| Private education. on 13:35 - Mar 16 with 2576 views | Vic |
| Private education. on 13:23 - Mar 16 by bluelagos |
"It depends" is very much the answer here.
Biggest determinant imho to a kids success at school isn't the school, the teachers or the parents, it is the kid and their attitude. Of course a school, the teachers and parents can all play a positive role in that (or sadly a negative one) but I'd be focusing on what motivates your child first and foremost, rather than thinking switching schools is going to solve things.
Get to the bottom of that, and you may come to a conclusion that changing schools is necessary. But you may also discover far easier and cheaper ways of helping them develop as learners. For me changing schools would be way down the line. |
This a 100x.
I really wouldn't be looking at the school yet - unless there are things going on which you been able to share on a footie message board. |  |
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| Private education. on 13:35 - Mar 16 with 2579 views | Keno |
| Private education. on 13:30 - Mar 16 by Fixed_It |
Certainly that was the narrative in the school I taught at, and is the expectation from OFSTED. However, League Tables do dictate that there is an effort to get the 'borderline' students across the GCSE threshold. A confident school will do that through good teaching aimed at the top. A less confident school will, as seems to be your experience, focus resources on dragging those at the bottom up to 'standard', and spend less time stetching the more able. League Tables are not helpful in this respect I'm afraid. |
I think its fair to say that, with the exception of classes taught by Mulley, the quality of education in the UK has dipped dramatically in last the year or so
No one seems to know why [Post edited 16 Mar 2022 13:40]
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| Private education. on 13:38 - Mar 16 with 2548 views | bluelagos |
| Private education. on 13:35 - Mar 16 by Keno |
I think its fair to say that, with the exception of classes taught by Mulley, the quality of education in the UK has dipped dramatically in last the year or so
No one seems to know why [Post edited 16 Mar 2022 13:40]
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Can you repost that in English Keno :-) | |
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| Private education. on 13:42 - Mar 16 with 2515 views | Bluesky |
I had a very similar experience with my oldest son (of three). from age 7 began to struggle, began sucking his thumb in class and although obviously very bright was not progressing. At the time the school was unhelpful but we quickly discovered that he is dyslexic.
We found a private school specialising in dyslexia and related learning issue. At interview the headmaster remarkably reassured my son that the school was there to "help him use his GIFT" !!
My son is in his forties now. Had a fantastic time at school and university, is confident, extrovert and able to laugh at occasional dyslexic mishaps. He helped programme the next vehicle to be going to Mars.
Just a thought but your story sounded terribly familiar - worth investigating dyslexia. The educaton cost has been worth every single penny. |  | | |
| Private education. on 13:43 - Mar 16 with 2498 views | Keno |
| Private education. on 13:38 - Mar 16 by bluelagos |
Can you repost that in English Keno :-) |
sos, got distracted cos my bank actually answered the phone after I'd been on hold 35 minutes.
Apparently I am not me, but someone pretending to me, which is why they won't do want I asked. I now have to put my request in writing in a letter which because its signed by me with my signature will be ok.
The irony being the instruction given to them is already in writing in a letter which because its signed by me with my signature with the thing they are querying being ........ wait for it ........... bet you cant guess .......... my signature [Post edited 16 Mar 2022 13:45]
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| Private education. on 13:55 - Mar 16 with 2426 views | bluelagos |
| Private education. on 13:43 - Mar 16 by Keno |
sos, got distracted cos my bank actually answered the phone after I'd been on hold 35 minutes.
Apparently I am not me, but someone pretending to me, which is why they won't do want I asked. I now have to put my request in writing in a letter which because its signed by me with my signature will be ok.
The irony being the instruction given to them is already in writing in a letter which because its signed by me with my signature with the thing they are querying being ........ wait for it ........... bet you cant guess .......... my signature [Post edited 16 Mar 2022 13:45]
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When I came from Lagos first time round I tried to open a new bank account explaining my legally earned and taxed savings had been earned working in Nigeria...
That wasn't in the least bit frustrating. | |
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| Private education. on 13:58 - Mar 16 with 2417 views | mutters |
A lot in my opinion depends on the school itself and the personality of the little one. I was fortunate enough to go to the right private school, and for me, it was the correct decision. The secondary schools at the time in Felixstowe were terrible and i would have just disappeared into the system and not been pushed. The school I went to pushed me both academically and personally.
There are also very good state schools. Both my niece and nephew attend Thomas Mills in Fram and by all accounts, it's an excellent school, both academically and also pastorally.
Are there grammar schools in Suffolk these days? Local to where I now live there are and i am hoping that might be the happy medium (plus not costing me a kidney to send my little one there!) |  |
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| Private education. on 14:04 - Mar 16 with 2398 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Private education. on 13:18 - Mar 16 by Fixed_It |
I disagree. There is very much an effort to 'teach to the top' at good state schools, which in turn raises aspirations for all students. |
"Good State Schools" is the key point there. |  | | |
| Private education. on 14:04 - Mar 16 with 2403 views | hype313 |
| Private education. on 13:58 - Mar 16 by mutters |
A lot in my opinion depends on the school itself and the personality of the little one. I was fortunate enough to go to the right private school, and for me, it was the correct decision. The secondary schools at the time in Felixstowe were terrible and i would have just disappeared into the system and not been pushed. The school I went to pushed me both academically and personally.
There are also very good state schools. Both my niece and nephew attend Thomas Mills in Fram and by all accounts, it's an excellent school, both academically and also pastorally.
Are there grammar schools in Suffolk these days? Local to where I now live there are and i am hoping that might be the happy medium (plus not costing me a kidney to send my little one there!) |
Thomas Mills just got the worst OFSTED report, haven't had one since 2006 when it was outstanding and has been dining out on it ever since.
My sister who is a teacher and others in the area all know how badly it has fallen over the years, hopefully this latest report will get them to up tier game again. |  |
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| Private education. on 14:08 - Mar 16 with 2393 views | ElderGrizzly |
Simply, if you can afford to do it, you won't regret it.
Mrs G went to Brighton College which is one of the top Private Schools in the country and her parents both taught there too. They have said having experienced both state and private they wouldn't go back to state.
There are good state schools of course, but it is a postcode lottery for most.
We are toying with the idea of sending Grizz Jr to Kings Ely once she is out of nursery as the local primaries are all a bit meh. | | | |
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