| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 08:53 - May 18 with 2764 views | Crawfordsboot |
He has been named on quite a few websites. Appears to be an extreme right wing flag waving Conservative. [Post edited 18 May 2022 8:54]
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 08:56 - May 18 with 2745 views | bluelagos |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 08:53 - May 18 by Crawfordsboot |
He has been named on quite a few websites. Appears to be an extreme right wing flag waving Conservative. [Post edited 18 May 2022 8:54]
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One of his reported views is of castration for rapists... |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:03 - May 18 with 2709 views | Crawfordsboot |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 08:56 - May 18 by bluelagos |
One of his reported views is of castration for rapists... |
Definitely of the hang, draw and quarter them ilk!
Depressingly has one of the highest, if not the highest, majority of any current MP. | | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:34 - May 18 with 2677 views | Guthrum |
Quote from the Guardian article: 'The prime minister told his cabinet on Tuesday morning: “Crime, crime, crime is what we want to focus on.”'
Well, they seem to be doing that ... |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:41 - May 18 with 2664 views | itfcjoe |
There are six male Tory MPs that became members of Parliament in 2001 and are in their 50s:
Boris Johnson
Jonathan Djangoly
Bill Wiggin
Mark Francois
Andrew Rosindell
Richard Bacon
If I were one of the other 4 (i.e. not Boris Johnson or the one charged) I would be ensuring I was front and centre at PMQs today |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:06 - May 18 with 2621 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:41 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
There are six male Tory MPs that became members of Parliament in 2001 and are in their 50s:
Boris Johnson
Jonathan Djangoly
Bill Wiggin
Mark Francois
Andrew Rosindell
Richard Bacon
If I were one of the other 4 (i.e. not Boris Johnson or the one charged) I would be ensuring I was front and centre at PMQs today |
Mark Francois is in his 50's? He's lead a bloody hard life then. I'd have had him down as about 63-65. |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:20 - May 18 with 2599 views | J2BLUE |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:41 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
There are six male Tory MPs that became members of Parliament in 2001 and are in their 50s:
Boris Johnson
Jonathan Djangoly
Bill Wiggin
Mark Francois
Andrew Rosindell
Richard Bacon
If I were one of the other 4 (i.e. not Boris Johnson or the one charged) I would be ensuring I was front and centre at PMQs today |
"Would the Prime Minister agree with me that I am here, that I am allowed to be here and that by asking this question everyone can see i'm here?" |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:21 - May 18 with 2598 views | itfcjoe |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:06 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Mark Francois is in his 50's? He's lead a bloody hard life then. I'd have had him down as about 63-65. |
He's only 56 | |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:22 - May 18 with 2600 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:41 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
There are six male Tory MPs that became members of Parliament in 2001 and are in their 50s:
Boris Johnson
Jonathan Djangoly
Bill Wiggin
Mark Francois
Andrew Rosindell
Richard Bacon
If I were one of the other 4 (i.e. not Boris Johnson or the one charged) I would be ensuring I was front and centre at PMQs today |
I know the whole country is playing this game, so not singling you out for criticism, but this is just completely innapropriate. There are innocent people in that list, being smeared by association. The individual in question has a right to a fair trial. And, most importantly, Rape and Sexual Assault convictions are notoriously difficult to achieve under a "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" system, as they often come down to one person's word against another.
Let's not give the Defence the "They couldn't have a fair trial because they were lynched on Twitter etc first" card to play at any potential Appeal. |  | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:26 - May 18 with 2575 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:22 - May 18 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I know the whole country is playing this game, so not singling you out for criticism, but this is just completely innapropriate. There are innocent people in that list, being smeared by association. The individual in question has a right to a fair trial. And, most importantly, Rape and Sexual Assault convictions are notoriously difficult to achieve under a "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" system, as they often come down to one person's word against another.
Let's not give the Defence the "They couldn't have a fair trial because they were lynched on Twitter etc first" card to play at any potential Appeal. |
We also saw lots of people name the wrong footballer from the "clues" given (North West, Premier League) following the arrest of Benjamin Mendy. | | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:31 - May 18 with 2540 views | Tonytown |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 09:41 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
There are six male Tory MPs that became members of Parliament in 2001 and are in their 50s:
Boris Johnson
Jonathan Djangoly
Bill Wiggin
Mark Francois
Andrew Rosindell
Richard Bacon
If I were one of the other 4 (i.e. not Boris Johnson or the one charged) I would be ensuring I was front and centre at PMQs today |
I’m sure they will.
We all know who it is too | | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 11:10 - May 18 with 2466 views | tractordownsouth |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:06 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Mark Francois is in his 50's? He's lead a bloody hard life then. I'd have had him down as about 63-65. |
To be fair winning both world wars singlehandedly would take its toll on anybody. |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 11:54 - May 18 with 2394 views | HARRY10 |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 10:21 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
He's only 56 |
waist size, that is | | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:08 - Jul 10 with 1607 views | GlasgowBlue |
Why is nobody complaining about the hypocrisy of the BBC reporting this story? | |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:17 - Jul 10 with 1570 views | eireblue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:08 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
Why is nobody complaining about the hypocrisy of the BBC reporting this story? |
Ohhh I love a good TWTD quiz me.
Is it:
About 99.99% of posters only view the first page, and don’t go trawling back through old posts, so that’s all that is top of mind when posting.
What do I win? |  | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:25 - Jul 10 with 1533 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:17 - Jul 10 by eireblue |
Ohhh I love a good TWTD quiz me.
Is it:
About 99.99% of posters only view the first page, and don’t go trawling back through old posts, so that’s all that is top of mind when posting.
What do I win? |
But surely when this story was posted the Beebs reputation was in the gutter after Savile, Harris, Stuart Hall etc.
Methinks there are double standards from some of our more nomadic posters on here. | |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:26 - Jul 10 with 1516 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:25 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
But surely when this story was posted the Beebs reputation was in the gutter after Savile, Harris, Stuart Hall etc.
Methinks there are double standards from some of our more nomadic posters on here. |
And double standards is your job. |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 14:17 - Jul 10 with 1414 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:26 - Jul 10 by Darth_Koont |
And double standards is your job. |
Here he is.
But well done. You managed a whole post without mention Israel or Zionism. Progress. | |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 14:22 - Jul 10 with 1395 views | blueasfook |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 14:17 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
Here he is.
But well done. You managed a whole post without mention Israel or Zionism. Progress. |
He left out "weaponised" and "smeared" too. He's definitely getting better. |  |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 14:27 - Jul 10 with 1384 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 14:22 - Jul 10 by blueasfook |
He left out "weaponised" and "smeared" too. He's definitely getting better. |
Those sessions I bought him are obviously working. | |
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 15:01 - Jul 10 with 1312 views | PhilTWTD |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 13:08 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
Why is nobody complaining about the hypocrisy of the BBC reporting this story? |
That's not really quite the same thing though, is it? The point being made regarding The Sun is the perceived hypocrisy regarding their editorial re Page 3, coverage of Charlotte Church, Emma Watson etc and their reporting on the current story. If the BBC story proves to be along the lines of reported, the individual concerned will have been acting as an individual rather than following BBC editorial policy. |  | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 15:18 - Jul 10 with 1258 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 15:01 - Jul 10 by PhilTWTD |
That's not really quite the same thing though, is it? The point being made regarding The Sun is the perceived hypocrisy regarding their editorial re Page 3, coverage of Charlotte Church, Emma Watson etc and their reporting on the current story. If the BBC story proves to be along the lines of reported, the individual concerned will have been acting as an individual rather than following BBC editorial policy. |
Didn’t the DG make an editorial decision to block the Newsnight expose on Savile in order to go ahead with a tribute to him? And weren’t the decision makers involved in threatening to sack journalists who wanted to expose Savile?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/29/bbc-savile-expose-newsnight-meirio
Besides. The Sun, as what passes for a newspaper, is publishing a story about an alleged illegal act. Page three, no matter what people’s personal views on it, was and is not illegal. [Post edited 10 Jul 2023 15:24]
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 15:37 - Jul 10 with 1215 views | PhilTWTD |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 15:18 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
Didn’t the DG make an editorial decision to block the Newsnight expose on Savile in order to go ahead with a tribute to him? And weren’t the decision makers involved in threatening to sack journalists who wanted to expose Savile?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/29/bbc-savile-expose-newsnight-meirio
Besides. The Sun, as what passes for a newspaper, is publishing a story about an alleged illegal act. Page three, no matter what people’s personal views on it, was and is not illegal. [Post edited 10 Jul 2023 15:24]
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I think the point re legality is a moot one to some degree, even if I take why it's made. I think the point most are making is one about The Sun taking the moral high ground given its track record. Page 3 may not have been illegal at the time but the inclusion of girls under 18 would be now and their sexualised language used regarding girls approaching 16 is well documented.
A fair point re the BBC and abysmal way they dealt with the Newsnight situation but Savile's actions were his own rather than being condoned by the BBC in the same manner as The Sun's discourse regarding teenage girls. On a related note, The Sun was apparently aware of Savile since 1983. | | | |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 18:23 - Jul 10 with 1082 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 15:37 - Jul 10 by PhilTWTD |
I think the point re legality is a moot one to some degree, even if I take why it's made. I think the point most are making is one about The Sun taking the moral high ground given its track record. Page 3 may not have been illegal at the time but the inclusion of girls under 18 would be now and their sexualised language used regarding girls approaching 16 is well documented.
A fair point re the BBC and abysmal way they dealt with the Newsnight situation but Savile's actions were his own rather than being condoned by the BBC in the same manner as The Sun's discourse regarding teenage girls. On a related note, The Sun was apparently aware of Savile since 1983. |
Re your last point. That doesn’t surprise me. These “newspapers” don’t publish these stories from a moral standpoint. They have dirt on numerous people in public life and sit on them until it suits their agenda, they are scum.
My point was more about people comparing the allegations against the BBC presenter and having models get their tits out on page three back in the day.
Edit. I see this story has taken another twist in the last few minutes. Someone isn’t being truthful. The parents, the Sun or the teenager. My point still stands about comparing this with page three though. [Post edited 10 Jul 2023 18:25]
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| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 18:56 - Jul 10 with 1047 views | PhilTWTD |
| Tory MP arrested on suspicion of rape on 18:23 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
Re your last point. That doesn’t surprise me. These “newspapers” don’t publish these stories from a moral standpoint. They have dirt on numerous people in public life and sit on them until it suits their agenda, they are scum.
My point was more about people comparing the allegations against the BBC presenter and having models get their tits out on page three back in the day.
Edit. I see this story has taken another twist in the last few minutes. Someone isn’t being truthful. The parents, the Sun or the teenager. My point still stands about comparing this with page three though. [Post edited 10 Jul 2023 18:25]
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It does seem to have taken quite the turn. Seemed something slightly questionable about the story from the start. I would have thought The Sun would have named the celebrity had they been confident enough in their story in the first place. | | | |
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